F%&*&$g CYCLISTS!!! ARRGGGHHH!!!

Originally Posted by Bedhead

Well, maybe you should phone Linconshire Police and give them the benefit of your knowledge?

And your qualifications for making such statments are??? Reading the daily mail???? Metalmonkey and YC are correct in what they say.

ALL emergency vehicles are exempt from speed limits (and certain other RT laws) whether they are capable of taking passengers or not. A Paramedic bike or response car is no different if they are heading to an emergency.

Originally Posted by Bedhead

Legal definition of an ambulance

"an ambulance, being a vehicle (other than an invalid carriage) which is constructed or adapted for the purposes of conveying sick, injured or disabled persons and which is used for such purposes. "

Road Safety Bill 2004

Road Safety Bill

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18

Exemptions from speed limits

(1)

Section 87 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (c. 27) (exemption of fire,
ambulance and police vehicles from speed limits) is to be renumbered as
subsection (1) of that section.

(2)

In that subsection, after “when” insert “(a)” and for “if” substitute—
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“(b)

it is being used for other prescribed purposes in such
circumstances as may be prescribed, or

(c)

it is being used for training persons to drive vehicles for use for
any of those purposes,
if”.

And this is the problem we have with google.

It says "fire, ambulance and police vehicles". It does not specify "a vehicle described as an ambulance under the definition of an Ambulance under the Road Saftey Bill 2004..."

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

And your qualifications for making such statments are??? Reading the daily mail???? Metalmonkey and YC are correct in what they say.

ALL emergency vehicles are exempt from speed limits (and certain other RT laws) whether they are capable of taking passengers or not. A Paramedic bike or response car is no different if they are heading to an emergency.

A direct quote from Lincs police?

Oh well, good to see the police are as clued up as ever?

Originally Posted by Bedhead

I know that Paramedic bikes and fast response cars that can't carry a patient are not classed as ambulances and are subject to the speed imit.

Linconshire police are doing a bloke transporting a liver for speeding at the minute, Cambs. cops threw it out but Linconshire are sticking to the letter of the law.

Perhaps carrying a liver is not deemed an "emergency". It would depend how far from the hospital he was, how long he had to transport the liver, etc etc etc. Perhaps carrying a liver is not classed as a prescribed use.

Organ transportation also tends to be different vehicles, not classed as emergency vehicles.

If you are using this as your argument, please provide links to the appropriate news report or information.

[tonyk]

I like this post. it is well entertaining........
oh and metalmonkey is one of our finest...
right now carry on...

Originally Posted by tonyk

I like this post. it is well entertaining........
oh and metalmonkey is on of our finest...
right now carry on...

And so am I.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Bedhead

Err, with the exception of M-way and dual carriageways, the vast majority of roads were actually laid out before the advent of the motor vehicle.

You forgot the <pedant> tags there.

Laid out, yes, but the modern road network is definately aimed at the motorised user,

[tonyk]

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

And so am I.

oh, well done...

grabs popcorn.......

On 1st August 1999, new legislation came into force to allow a fixed penalty notice to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway.


However the Home Office issued guidance on how the new legislation should be applied, indicating that they should only be used where a cyclist is riding in a manner that may endanger others. At the time Home Office Minister Paul Boateng issued a letter stating that:


"The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required."