Osama Bin Laden DEAD

Mr.Owenski....

I used a little journalistic license in order to exaggerate my point. I don't think that even you can deny that Muslims were,(especially in the immediate aftermath of 9/11) viewed with much suspision. In the U.K. not quite the same degree of knee jerk reaction as the U.S. but it was there under the surface.

Young men who were born in the likes of Bolton,live off benefits and then up and go join the Mujahadin did not help either.

Spain might well have a different view. As the country was invaded,conquered and ruled by "The Moors"= Arabs for many centuries. Those that arrive illegally today from Morrocco are not a great advertisement either.


On a personal front peace loving muslims I have no beef with,I have friends of that faith. These deranged hard liners though are a different thing altogether. I think that you failed to recognise the underlying sympathy for the ordinary muslim in my previous entry.

Mr.Owenski lol, love it!
Clearly we've never met or you'd be calling me littleman knobcheese or something similar, dont be worried about offending me, although I could get used to Mr Owenski

Im not out to accuse you of been a racist so your "on a personal front..." message is not necessary. I dont deny in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 some people out of ignorance did see a dark skinned person and immediately assume they were therefore a terrorist (I've seen the youtube vids to prove it).

My problem comes with your journalistic License, that doesnt come across in type but your words do and it was the words that I responded to. In addition the use of caps lock and your choice of words was unfortunate, if thats not your actual oppinion then fair enough but if you put it in type then you can see why I'd be led to object.

To emphasise my friendlines to normal muslims,tonight I will be enjoying a takeaway watching Barca Vs. Madrid with a chap of that very persuasion.

[Paul the 6th]

Just watch him in case he's anything suspicious in his bag! Only joking, but when 5ft 2" blonde women wearing red dresses & stilettos start hijacking/bombing, then would it be unreasonable for people to suspect every blonde haired little red riding hood to be somehow connected?

Also it's interesting to see how many Islamic protectors will take to streets burning flags & screaming for blood when something of their religion is insulted, but they won't march & chant with the same passion to distance themselves from the nutters who think they've got god in their pocket.

I'm not particularly a fan of Islam.... but then I can't stand Christian fundamentalists either. Or buddhists, the lazy sods! Actually, come to think of it I dislike all religions equally.

I do believe there's other life in the universe & I'd like to think there's other things going on which we don't yet know about (energy, karma etc) but I won't go threatening to kill non believers nor would I blow myself up for it. That's just silly.

Anywho back on topic - any conspiracy theorists in this thread yet? Apparently Osama died on dec 2001 from lung problems/kidney failure, and this whole thing has been staged to pour some petrol on the flames of the war against terror? Funny how the guy was buried at sea & someone took high quality pics of the obama administration watching the operation live on tv? They don't normally do that do they?

I personally just don't get it why everyone is so damn happy about it. Let me tell you how I see all of this:

Some organization on this planet, made up of a handful of man, which may or may not exist (let's say I swing for the "may exist" part) organizes terrorist hits around the planet. 4000 people die as a result over the course of 15 years. That's 267/year on average. The man upstairs uses this as political ammunition to propel whatever he sees fit at the moment, mostly MORE violence. A HUGE HUGE HUGE amount of resources is being spent to upgrade security everywhere, fund military & intelligence operations, fund propaganda and so on. 10 years after a major attack, the person publicly charged with the assault is deemed dead.

In the mean time, just in the good ol' US of A, 30000 people die every year on account of road accidents (that's 10 9/11's EVERY year, and 20% of those are just bikers). 1000000 on account of diabetes (that's 333 9/11's EVERY year). Cancer alone is responsable for a lot of deaths. That means, that, esentially, a huge huge huge amount of the resources this world has available to it is dedicated to a minor minor minor risk. How minor? Well, as George Carlin would put it, more people die from food poisoning every year. "Terrorism" is a MINOR risk. MINOR!!

So, how is it that we've come to celebrate the naivity of the human nature?? More importantly, how is it that everyone seems to think that it's ok to celebrate the vengeful and violent side of humans? Or more correctly put, the exploitation of the potential for adaptability that the we humans posses, the twisting of our nature?

I'm sickened by this whole charade and the fact that it still works so well...

I hope to make people wonder about it when they read this, even if some will be infuriated at first

[yorkie_chris]

Not infuriated at all, I agree with you.
The reds we had governing us previously used this non-threat as an excuse for encroaching further on liberty.

As for the wars started as a result of it, who knows what the real agenda is, if it's oil then lets be fair oil supply is far more of a potential threat to our current way of life than any raghead of a jihadist bent.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Not infuriated at all, I agree with you.
The reds we had governing us previously used this non-threat as an excuse for encroaching further on liberty.

As for the wars started as a result of it, who knows what the real agenda is, if it's oil then lets be fair oil supply is far more of a potential threat to our current way of life than any raghead of a jihadist bent.

if it's oil why worry? it's running out anyway, and when it does all of the arab states where the oil is will be worthless.

and remember 9/11 had it's own conspiricy theories so did OBL organise it? or was he used as a scapegoat and in fact the western world has it's own extremists.

[Biker Biggles]

Does anyone know if Dangerous Dave had a hand in this?

[dizzyblonde]

But of course he did, cause nobody can prove he existed either!

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Does anyone know if Dangerous Dave had a hand in this?

US Navy SEALS carried out the operation , as far as I know no UK B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T artists were involved