watch out he is back ripping us off

[littleoldman2]

Originally Posted by Fordward

does seem a bit strange to me that the people who run a forum could somehow be held responsible for stuff members sell on it

if you replied to an advert in your local paper and agreed to gift money on paypal and the seller then did a runner with the money, would you expect to get anywhere by complaining to the paper?

its just a public internet forum, anyone can place an advert, anyone can read it, just like the local paper

people buying stuff on here are lucky the mods are prepared to help at all IMO

Well said

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by muzikill

I think your solution about the mods frog marching round was a bit ott. Im pretty sure craig is feeling bad enough about what happened without something like that being said. Your advice before you said that was fine.

The point I was trying to make there was to the people saying things along the lines of "will see what the mods are going to do about it". Just trying to work out what people would like us to do?
As Claire says its more a tongue in cheek comment

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Ok so you see it as being a harsh reply, tell me what's harsh about it and any bits that you think are untrue/out of order

More blunt than harsh.

[dirtydog]

I'm a blunt kind of person, spade is a spade etc

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I'm a blunt kind of person, spade is a spade etc

I think we're supposed to call them African Americans now.



I think this was the post that might originally have seemed off:

Originally Posted by specialone

Mate, with respect, he's not our responsibility, if a user is found to be dodgy he gets banned, it's not up to us to police every transaction, it's a contract entered into between the vendor and the buyer, that doesn't include sv650.org.

New users could always search the vendors name before and maybe check up on them.

Text is very raw, devoid of inflection and as such the wording may have seemed a bit harsher than it needed to to someone who's just lost their money even if the facts are accurate.

Originally Posted by admin

What difference would that make? Rip off merchants sell bikes too.

I work on the basis that most people are decent and honest, but buyer beware.

Because eBay has protection.

And if its cash in hand you see the good before you buy.

Originally Posted by Spank86

Text is very raw, devoid of inflection and as such the wording may have seemed a bit harsher than it needed to to someone who's just lost their money even if the facts are accurate.

Lol, for me this was diplomatic, one of my friends calls me Phil no filter, as he says there isn't a filter between my brain and my mouth, I say what I see.


Bottom line is, we, the org do not have to do anything, that might seem 'harsh', well, life's a bitch of a learning curve, I don't have anyone holding my hand when I make bad decisions (or purchases), learn from it, move on, don't look to blame everyone and his mother.

It was a comment, not a personal complaint.

Dog seemed confused as to why someone would take it badly.

[MisterTommyH]

On the plus side if you're on here and pay attention to who appears to be trustworthy then it can work out to your advantage. I've had an orger send me £200 by PayPal to go and view an item they'd seen on eBay, judge whether it was OK, buy it and pack it off to them. Which was no problem as it was 2 mins down the road and I'd like to think someone would help me if needed.

I've heard of similar things happening with others... Can pay to trust people.

i dnt know what paypal tend to do and how lazy they are but if gifting is not covered etc offer them the forum page in which you negotiated the deal with said person for the item along with any pms you sent/recieved , allow them to talk to mods to get true identity of the seller to match up to paypal account, to prove this is why you sent payment etc its not much but if it where me id try it. im not up to date on all the rules so not sure if it can be done but anyhow its the only way they could attempt to dispute gifting with written proof of why you gifted it in the first place. i say all this after having 4 hours sleep in 3 days so i hope it makes sense