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Old 12-05-06, 04:15 PM   #81
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swallowing could be classed as mass genocide surly! sorry if im being too crass!

although going by the bible it's ok... aslong as none of it is spilled
waste not...want not!!

whatever thats sposed to mean!
What are we talking about again?
erm the bible dunt sy that, just christians who read it differently to me thats all.!!! actually can we try and stay away from the whole religiony bibley stuff pretty please
i forget the exact wording but if you read it word for word, aslong as it doesn't touch the gound yer fine

and thats me off religion
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Old 12-05-06, 04:16 PM   #82
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can we try and stay away from the whole religiony bibley stuff pretty please
We'll only end up discussing immigration again.
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Old 12-05-06, 04:17 PM   #83
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I have to agree with viney on this one, there is no way she should be having that baby, it's probably gonna be a retard anyway if she's been smoking 20 a day. Bit late now tho it's due in a few weeks, poor kid doesn't stand a chance in life.
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Old 12-05-06, 04:31 PM   #84
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teenage boy has been charged with rape after it emerged a 12-year-old girl is set to become Britain's youngest mum.

The 15-year-old is scheduled to appear again on July 10 at Edinburgh sheriff court having already made a previous appearance, police said.


The youngster, who comes from West Lothian in Scotland, fell pregnant when she was just 11 and is due to give birth next month.

She will break the record set by Jenny Teague of Dorset, who had a baby aged 12 years and nine months in 1997.

The girl told a newspaper she was "really excited" about the prospect of becoming a mother.

"I think I'll be able to cope as I've had lots of practice looking after my brothers," she said in an interview with the paper.

"I'm enjoying being pregnant - even though I get a bit of a sore back and sore ribs."

She feared that she might be pregnant after having unprotected sex with a 15-year-old boy on a night out with friends in Edinburgh last August.

The pregnancy was confirmed with the help of a supermarket home-testing kit.

Her 34-year-old mother told the newspaper: "I'm not ashamed of my daughter at all - in fact, I'm proud of her for keeping her baby."

A spokesman for West Lothian Council said: "We are aware of the situation. We are providing support through our social policy and education teams.

"We are working with the family to support the young person to ensure that the child gets the best possible start."
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Old 12-05-06, 04:36 PM   #85
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I have to agree with viney on this one, there is no way she should be having that baby, it's probably gonna be a retard anyway if she's been smoking 20 a day. Bit late now tho it's due in a few weeks, poor kid doesn't stand a chance in life.
hmmm... i say, don't write the baby off just yet. There are plenty of people who have been brought up in bad situations and made something of themselves.

I hope that social services play their part now and keep the child safe. IMHO abortion should never be imposed on anyone and it is up to social services whether the baby stays with its mum or not now anyway.

It is upsetting that we seem to have to pay for a social underclass that don't work and are quite happy sponging of everybody else.

and while i'm droaning on, if most christian churches cannot argee on when life starts I don't think we are gonna change the world on a bike forum with the answer!! although I must stick up for the scientists on the forum and say that 2 cells joined together does not make a life (imo).
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Old 12-05-06, 04:37 PM   #86
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I know that if that wee fella lived over here he'd be hoping for jail. Because if he didn't get locked up quick smart it wouldn't be long before he'd have some difficulty walking.
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Old 12-05-06, 04:38 PM   #87
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Firstly no one is to blame apart from the kids themselves, they know what they were doing was wrong. They also are aware of contraception. Whether they have sufficient access is a different matter.

Society should accept that children do have sex, there is no point moralising and preaching abstinence. We should tell our children to wait until they are sure it is right for them, and then ensure that they are not embarrassed from asking for contraception.


I am sure a large number of contributers to this forum lost their virginity below the legal age of consent, myself included. There for the grace of god go many of us.

I think most lads assume contraception is a girls responsibility and a willingness to have intercourse as an indication that the girl is happy with her contraception. A case of little head rules big head.

Therefore, family planning should be totally anonymous if required. Yes whilst there they can be advised about the dangers of STDs. Ensure that a girl is not under pressure to engage in sexual activity etc. But at the end of the day we need to give our kids the support to make the right decisions for themselves.
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I have to agree with viney on this one, there is no way she should be having that baby, it's probably gonna be a retard anyway if she's been smoking 20 a day. Bit late now tho it's due in a few weeks, poor kid doesn't stand a chance in life.
hmmm... i say, don't write the baby off just yet. There are plenty of people who have been brought up in bad situations and made something of themselves.

I hope that social services play their part now and keep the child safe. IMHO abortion should never be imposed on anyone and it is up to social services whether the baby stays with its mum or not now anyway.

It is upsetting that we seem to have to pay for a social underclass that don't work and are quite happy sponging of everybody else.

and while i'm droaning on, if most christian churches cannot argee on when life starts I don't think we are gonna change the world on a bike forum with the answer!! although I must stick up for the scientists on the forum and say that 2 cells joined together does not make a life (imo).
Ok I can agree with much of what you've said.
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Old 12-05-06, 04:51 PM   #89
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Sex with a minor is illegal, therefore he has been charged, quite rightly. However, when they are both minors in this case, why not charge them both?!

Might discourage a few lasses, as they might realise that they would face the legal consequences, not just the lad.
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We should tell our children to wait until they are sure it is right for them, and then ensure that they are not embarrassed from asking for contraception.
But at the end of the day we need to give our kids the support to make the right decisions for themselves.
I couldn't agree more. My 16 year old daughter has always been able to discuss sex with me quite openly. She IS still 'innocent', but one of her classmates is due to give birth any day now.

Whay horrifies my daughter almost as much as the fact that her friend will probably never complete her education is the fact that her friends mum 'doesn't care' that her daughter is pregnant. Apparently her attitude was 'oh well, the state will look after her'

What hope do children have when THAT is the attitude of their parents?
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