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Old 25-06-14, 11:28 AM   #1
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Default UK Incident Scenario Question

A question was raised by a colleague about the following accident scenario and I could not answer it:
1. You are riding on a 30mph zone and there is a car (car-A) in front of you driving within the speed limit and you are following the 2 seconds rule.
2. On the oncoming traffic, there are cars parked on the left hand side of the road and for some reason a oncoming car (car-B) decides to pull out and drive between you and the parked cars .
3. As car-B is using half on the rider lane, you sacrifice your position ( in order to avoid a front collision ) and move to the left and back to the centre.
4. Meanwhile, you see that car-A hit the brakes and you do the same ( e.g. front brakes ) but slides as your front wheel is not straight and you bike is on the tarmac about 2 yards behind car-A. no physical contacts during the incident.

Who's fault is it ?
Is it the fault of car-B as the rider tried to avoid colliding against car-B's right hand side ?

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Old 25-06-14, 11:33 AM   #2
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The rider for there assessment of the situation should have been prepared.
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Old 25-06-14, 11:47 AM   #3
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Rider for not being able to use their brakes properly. Unless there was wet / diesel / gravel around.
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Old 25-06-14, 11:49 AM   #4
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rider, due to not being able to control their vehicle in an emergency situation. they don't do the emergency stop in your test for giggles. slow speed control and observation is far more important than anything.
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Old 25-06-14, 07:12 PM   #5
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Rider.
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Old 25-06-14, 08:00 PM   #6
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Old 25-06-14, 08:57 PM   #7
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Old 25-06-14, 09:50 PM   #8
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Potentially you might try and shift some responsibility onto the driver of car B as it was their actions that compromised your ability to deal with the developing situation in front of you, however the fact that the bike still stopped before running into the vehicle ahead does tend to suggest rider incompetence was mainly to blame (bikes tend to stop better whilst upright on their tyres rather than sliding on their fairings......)

Why did car A hit the brakes?
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Old 26-06-14, 02:41 AM   #9
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Rider.......
Had it not been a car on the the other side, but a child running into the road the car infront would brake quickly......
Sorry but riders fault.....
Funny thing but this did happen to me....lucky there was enough space between me and the car infront.
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Old 26-06-14, 08:24 AM   #10
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Honestly I have seen so many drivers avoiding oncoming traffic on tight roads and hitting the breaks to stop closer to the kerb - I guess this is the result of fear.
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Potentially you might try and shift some responsibility onto the driver of car B as it was their actions that compromised your ability to deal with the developing situation in front of you, however the fact that the bike still stopped before running into the vehicle ahead does tend to suggest rider incompetence was mainly to blame (bikes tend to stop better whilst upright on their tyres rather than sliding on their fairings......)

Why did car A hit the brakes?
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