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View Poll Results: What Rideout System do you use and recommend?
"Fast" Group at the front 2 15.38%
"Slow" Group at the front 3 23.08%
Neither......Please explain (Brifely if posible!) 8 61.54%
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Old 02-09-07, 10:18 PM   #1
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Default Rideout "Sections" or "Groups"

After trying to avoid everyone doing ther own thing on an SV Ecosse rideout today, there have been the usual mixed reactions...

There are lines of though whereby the fast "Group" go off on their own and "have a blast". The Slow / less experienced "group" arrive some time later at the meeting points. That is if they haven't stopped to fetch one person out of a hedge because they felt under pressure to play catch up with the other riders, causing them to ride beyond their ability.

The other school of thought is that the slow/ less experienced riders "Group" go at the front and set a pace that they are comfortable with. This ensures that there is no "pressure" - real or imaginary put upon riders of lesser ability. If the "Fast" group wish to "have a blast", they only need to fall back and then "go for it" to do so. As long as most people know the rout or destination there is no problem.

What do you lot do?

Garry

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Old 02-09-07, 10:24 PM   #2
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all go together, and the faster riders do the drop offs, so nobody is left behind, if you dont want to do drop offs let the faster riders past, when you can & stay in the middle.
and the faster riders will drop off so they are at the back, its then up to that rider, to work his way back to the front ready to do another drop off

i think this works very well, depending if you have enough riders willing to do drop offs (which we have)

the problem with the fast riders at the front is, peeps might try to keep up, and push too hard & others may think they are being left behind

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Old 02-09-07, 10:32 PM   #3
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The GM normally use the drop off marker system how it normally works with us that we have a leader and a tail end charlie then it's normally the faster riders mark the corners as they mark the corner then work their way back upto the front to mark again

although if there is only a small number of us we just keep the rider in front and the rider behind in sight
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Old 02-09-07, 10:33 PM   #4
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let the ladies ride in front and I'll be happy to ride from behind
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Old 03-09-07, 01:58 AM   #5
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let the ladies ride in front and I'll be happy to ride from behind
+1... sounds like a good ride to me
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Old 03-09-07, 07:35 AM   #6
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As per Hovis and Dirtydog.
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Old 03-09-07, 07:48 AM   #7
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I believe that if its a site 'group' rideout that everyone should ride together using the marking system. if you want to go off and have a play then do it another time or just dont attend the rideout in the 1st place and just meet at the end points.
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Old 03-09-07, 08:11 AM   #8
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What Viney said.

If I want to stretch the legs of the GSXR I go out by myself.
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Old 03-09-07, 08:15 AM   #9
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As above, if you are on a group ride surely you want to be part of the group? If you want a 'blast' go on your own or arrange your own fast ride out with mates.
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Old 03-09-07, 08:53 AM   #10
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I'd have to agree the primary reason behind group riding is to move the group from point A to point B.

Whilst the benefits of the Marker system allow a certain flexibility (gaps can be created to give riders room to "enjoy" themselves) or indeed the marker group system requiring a certain amount of progressive riding from the markers themselves, these can become limiting to more "spirited" riders.

This can be addressed by breaking the group into speed/experiance and then adjusted by either time or distance, with good planning the "fast" group will have a route to bring them to the same stop point at the same time as the rest of the riders, perhaps adding a loop of several miles to that travelled by everyone else.

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