Braided hoses

I'm thinking of putting Braided hoses on suzie so can someone tell me which is best

1. Hoses all round
or
2. Just front

Been told if they are on the rear you have more chance of locking the back end up is this true?

[flymo]

I'm thinking of putting Braided hoses on suzie so can someone tell me which is best

1. Hoses all round
or
2. Just front

Well, to be honest, if you're going to change them why not do the full set?

Been told if they are on the rear you have more chance of locking the back end up is this true?

nah, thats bull. It takes almost no effort to lock the rear, braided hoses or not. Technically braided hoses are supposed to offer a braking improvement because they prevent the hoses expanding during braking and therefore increase the force that you can apply to the actual brake pads against the discs. In reality though I doubt that most people would really notice the difference. Braided hoses do look nicer though.

If normal hoses are really so bad then why are they suitable for bikes such as fireblades, R1's and GIXER 1000's straight from teh dealer? 10% genuine technical advantage, 40% fashion and 50% all in the mind IMO.

[northwind]

Personalyl I doubt many people could tell the difference between new braided hoses and new rubber hoses. But, rubber hoses are a wear item on a 4-year replacement cycle, and they can deteriorate before that time's up. When it comes to replacement time fitting more rubber ones makes no sense, they're expensive. Also, I reckon that most times when people fit braided hoses and discover there's a big upgrade, that's because of the new fluid But not all times.

The rear's sensitive with either steel or rubber, there's no particular need to make it stronger but again, when it comes replacement time steel makes sense. Personally I like using really ineffectual brake pads in the rear, so it needs a bit more boot to do the job- it's still effective but not touchy.

Hi mate, I have just fitted goodridge braided hoses front and rear. The braking has improved a bit on the front but i think the hoses were due for replacement anyway. Oh and I aint locked up the rear yet!!

+1 for looking cooooool

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by flymo_racer

If normal hoses are really so bad then why are they suitable for bikes such as fireblades, R1's and GIXER 1000's straight from teh dealer? 10% genuine technical advantage, 40% fashion and 50% all in the mind IMO.

That's new hose though, after a few years then there will actually be an advantage to stainless ones (or even new rubber ones..).

I doubt that stainless offers any braking power, unless the originals were so bad as to allow the lever to hit the bar. Still going to be the same pressure there, IMO advantage is feel.

Braided hoses will last a lot longer, so in the long run they are the better option to go for. They will improve braking a tiny bit if you have brand new standard hoses at the moment, however, most people fit braided hoses after a long time with standard rubber hoses, it is at this point that you feel the biggest increase in braking performance! Ypu would also feel that increase if you replaced with new rubber hoses too!

Go for the full set, as Chris said you get an increase in feel and locking the back wheel does not become easier it just puts it back to how it was when the bike was brand new (as the brakes should be). Put to much pressure on the pedal and yes it will lock up, it does that too with old rubber hoses its just that to create the same pressure you have to use more lever/pedal travel!

Just got goodridge braided hoses, check and make sure the banjo bolts has the correct thread pitch before taking your old ones off!!

I found out the hard way after bleeding my brakes and taking off all the lines, only to find out the banjo bolt for the cylinder assembly has a fine thread pitch and goodridge has sent me one with standard thread pitch

Originally Posted by Lucas

Just got goodridge braided hoses, check and make sure the banjo bolts has the correct thread pitch before taking your old ones off!!

I found out the hard way after bleeding my brakes and taking off all the lines, only to find out the banjo bolt for the cylinder assembly has a fine thread pitch and goodridge has sent me one with standard thread pitch

I had that exact problem with a set from Goodridge in the past! I phoned them up and the replacement arrived the next day, they didn't want the wrong one back!

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Lucas

I found out the hard way

That is not the hard way. The hard way is if you fit the bolt anyway and mangle the thread, as some have done.

Thanks for all the info everyone.My mechanic makes them up all nice and chrome joints and stuff he says £60 for front end fitted and all is this an ok price?