renegade airkit and jets help please

The price will be £90 VAT included.
P&P will be £5 to the UK.
The airkit comprises of a oiled foam air filter + all fitting parts, (the filter itself, can also be replaced if needed without having to buy the full kit.)
Two replacement velocity stacks and a set of Main Jets,
Instructions will direct, how to do the jet-settings.




found the above on renegade web site. i am after getting an performance air filter and jets would this be the right thing to go for? am possibly thinking of a dyno-jet kit aswell? is this the right way of doing things? i am after getting a bit more oommphhh out of the bike ready for the 1/4 mile racing i will be doing next summer. any other suggestions would be helpful.

how easy is it for me to do this?

i dare say i need more speed after fitting the lowers and TWO renegade exhausts to the bike i seem to be adding weight when i should be taking it off. oh yeah a diet is outa the question!

£4~ for two 140 jets.
£0 for a desnorkled air filter which performs better than aftermarket (DYNO run)
£0 to drill two holes in the sliders if you can be arsed for extra 0.7HP.

See sv650.org FAQ changing jets for details.

£4~ for two 140 jets.
£0 for a desnorkled air filter which performs better than aftermarket (DYNO run)
£0 to drill two holes in the sliders if you can be arsed for extra 0.7HP.

Andrew can you explain how you managed to get a desnorkled air filter to work as nobody else I have ever come across in the UK has managed it?

If I recall correctly, you did the above with a standard can then a) you were wasting your money and b) none of the above assertions will hold true for another end can or full system.

As for the original question you should either go for the renegade air kit or a dyno jet kit and after market filter. There should be no benefit to using both at the same time.

Originally Posted by Mike1234

Andrew can you explain how you managed to get a desnorkled air filter to work as nobody else I have ever come across in the UK has managed it?

If I recall correctly, you did the above with a standard can then a) you were wasting your money and b) none of the above assertions will hold true for another end can or full system.

As for the original question you should either go for the renegade air kit or a dyno jet kit and after market filter. There should be no benefit to using both at the same time.

more or less of the same feeling that mike is, you can either pay the money for the renegade kit or you can go buy the mikuni jets and buy a BMC race rs filter, shouldnt cost anymore than 50 quid (or add a dynojet kit onto that ), renegade kit has the advantage of having different velocity stacks to tune the airflow into the carbs better, the choice is yours, but dont do a half assed job and cut holes out of your oe filter

One recommendation for the Rene Kit.... But then again I only paid £60

A desnorkled airfilter only runs properly with uprated jets and a race can. It's essentially just a race filter when you cut all the top away and you can clean it then with a toothbrush.

Your right I have done it to mine. Since I run 137.5 mains and standard can (at the moment) it was running lean all over the place. Raising the needle a notch has helped but it needs new main jets. I'm trying to locate them since no-one on Westgate Hill (Newcastle's biking road) seems to do them.

Check out that link on sv650 faq for details.

A desnorkled airfilter only runs properly with uprated jets and a race can. It's essentially just a race filter when you cut all the top away and you can clean it then with a toothbrush.

All together now: Oh No It's Not!

The biggest difference between the standard filter, the BMC Race filter and the BMC Race RS filter is the material it is made of and, as a result, how much air it can flow.

I did some testing at the start of last year. I desnorkeled a standard filter and tried it back to back with my MHP race system. Despite trying everything from 137.5 to 165s (Mikuni sizes, not Dynojet) we could not get it working properly.

Later in the year I did a similar test with two BMC filters. The Race is effectively a desnorkeled filter but with freer flowing material. It worked okay but the Race RS (the on with the big hole in the top as standard) was really good. We tried to work out the difference between the two and cut a similar hole in the top of the Race filter.

Strangely enough the Race filter, despite having exactly the same hole in the top as the Race RS didn't run the same. It's all down to how much air the material element can flow. The standard filter just can't flow enough air and desnorkeling it makes a mess of the air flow.

I spent several days last year trying different things on a dyno with different filters, jetting and needle positions. I can vouch for the results with a BMC Race RS filter and a Dynojet kit. I have also seen good results with the Renegade kit although I didn't test it on my bike.

As I said in my earlier post I have not found anyone inthe UK who has managed to make a desnorkeled standard filter work successfully on any bike that has an exhaust that can flow better than standard!

also, on all the us sites i have seen they tend to make huge jumps in jet sizes (from 137.5 to 152.5 for example) the sv is restricted by its induction and exhaust system but in no way does it need jets of those sizes on a standard capacity sv, also when running huge jets you will get bore wash which will accelerate wear

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Get the renegade Kit...i would say that though wouldn't I?

Fitted a fair few, have the original on my bike, and im happy with it. At the end of the day, you pay your money and all that

if i go for the rene kit how easy is it to fit and adjust?