Endorsements on your licence

My points expired today

...but DVLA want £19 to remove them from my licence

Is there any benefit to removing expired endorsements since insurance companies can no longer take them into consideration anymore.

Originally Posted by curium

My points expired today

...but DVLA want £19 to remove them from my licence

Is there any benefit to removing expired endorsements since insurance companies can no longer take them into consideration anymore.

Just leave them on... They've expired, if/when you move you'll get a new 'clean' license for nowt

[BillyC]

Insurance companies will require information on endorsements received in the 5 years previous to your insurance application - so just because they're no long "on" your licence, they're still a piece of required information.

The points are actually "active" for 3 years, but cannot be removed from your licence until the end of the 4th year. Just want to clarify this, so you don't get your hopes up.

In terms of actually removing the text from your licence... well; that's really your call. I had mine removed quite a few years back when I updated to the photocard licence, mainly for my pride.

I think the £19 is really for the unnecessary re-issue of the licence. If you were to change your address for example, which is usually free... then there may not be any charge to remove the points - they should come off naturally. However, I could be wrong

Wee! After lurking on this forum, hoovering up all the useful information that floats about, actually something I can respond to!

It is worth getting your points removed from your license. If you get caught speeding (etc.) and have to go to court, the court can take into account your previous history if your points are still showing. The CAN'T use them for "totting up" for a ban, but they can use them to say that you are a repeat offender, and therefore maybe hit you with a bigger fine/ban.

My old man found this out to his cost. He had a "clean" license (All points over 5 years old). But because the points hadn't been removed from his license the magistrate took them into account.

Originally Posted by rigor

Wee! After lurking on this forum, hoovering up all the useful information that floats about, actually something I can respond to!

It is worth getting your points removed from your license. If you get caught speeding (etc.) and have to go to court, the court can take into account your previous history if your points are still showing. The CAN'T use them for "totting up" for a ban, but they can use them to say that you are a repeat offender, and therefore maybe hit you with a bigger fine/ban.

My old man found this out to his cost. He had a "clean" license (All points over 5 years old). But because the points hadn't been removed from his license the magistrate took them into account.

are you sure about that? doesnt sound right to me. surely each case is judged upon individual circumstances, not upon whats gone in the past.

could be wrong. just doesnt sound right. or fair.

I think it's a general criminal justice thing. After all, if a habitual bike thief gets caught, I'm sure I'd want all the past times he's been convicted of nicking stuff taken into account when sentencing. Of course, they shouldn't be taken into account before a verdict has been reached. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. But if you "volunteer" information (which you do, by handing the courts your licence with endorsments on) then they are always going to look at it...

It is a great feeling when they "time out" though isn't it? I was hovering with just 3 to go and then out for a little while some years ago. Some of the one's I collected where in my stupid teenager days hurling around on my 250 triple! Since that close call I have not collected any further one's, maybe I am just a bit smarter these days!

in reply to KeithD

are you sure about that? doesnt sound right to me. . . .

Im affraid that is kinda correct. . .

But they have access to your criminal record so even if they are removed from your license, they can still look up your previous motoring convictions!

I have recently recieved a summons for speeding, and it states that the court uses this method to help decide your fine / points! (bummer ) Luckily i have no previous to consider. (although that dont make me feel any better)