MOT question - SV650.org

northwind · 08-06-06, 08:57 PM

So, the Northwindmobile is MOT-ed up for another year, thanks to the friendly local garage and their liberal attitude to exhausts. But something came up that I was sort of expecting would...

I removed the sidelight when I did the respray, since it was pretty ugly, and added no light worth mentioning. Now, my read of the MOT regs says, "A motor bicycle (with or without a side car) fitted with a headlamp need not have a front position lamp (but must have one on the side car, if a side car is fitted).". But I was told today that technically, I should have been failed for not having one. As far as I can tell, if it's there it has to work, but if it's not it's not required. Anyone?

08-06-06, 09:09 PM

I think as long as you have a pilot light which also works a a park light that's all you need!!!!

08-06-06, 09:14 PM

ok, im gonna ask further.
(as were now officially rebuilding a bike)

does a bike have to have a sidelight ?

what if there is no sidelight/parking fitted (were talking that little stupid led thing that no one uses)

can we get away with just removing the bulb, therefore technically not having one fitted, or do i need to remove the switchgear bit too ?

its gonna be a pain in the ass to fit a sidelight as most aftermarket headlight units dont have provisions for one.

(i might just use a hornet or SV headlight)

Biker Biggles · 08-06-06, 09:18 PM

I use that parking light on the SV. It's put there so that you can drain your battery while the bike is parked up at work all day.

08-06-06, 09:21 PM

on the CBR's (that were streetfightering)
there is no option for a parking light, therefore you need the keys in the ignition to have it on.

northwind · 08-06-06, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikageboy

does a bike have to have a sidelight ?

what if there is no sidelight/parking fitted (were talking that little stupid led thing that no one uses)

That was the question I just asked wasn't it?

08-06-06, 11:07 PM

My Bros does not have a pilot light, nor a position on the switch for it. (Japanese spec)
It MOTs no problem.
It is headlight and taillight or no lights at all.

Conclusion: a bike does NOT require a pilot light.

09-06-06, 07:56 AM

Plenty of bikes seem to not have them, I guess if you have it, it must work but if you've removed it then it should be ok...anyone got a proper answer

Viney · 09-06-06, 08:10 AM

Falc, ALL bikes have them, just sometimes they aint seperate and are built into the headlights.

09-06-06, 02:38 PM

OK, i think in your case northy the answer is NO, not required for an MOT.
see here

(that's the second time i've linked to there today, I should be on commission)

In short, I read that as....

If you don't have a headlamp you must have a position lamp or it will be recorded as a daytime only machine.
If you have a headlamp, it is not a requirement to have a position lamp.

HTH.

08-06-06, 08:57 PM	#1
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	MOT question So, the Northwindmobile is MOT-ed up for another year, thanks to the friendly local garage and their liberal attitude to exhausts. But something came up that I was sort of expecting would... I removed the sidelight when I did the respray, since it was pretty ugly, and added no light worth mentioning. Now, my read of the MOT regs says, "A motor bicycle (with or without a side car) fitted with a headlamp need not have a front position lamp (but must have one on the side car, if a side car is fitted).". But I was told today that technically, I should have been failed for not having one. As far as I can tell, if it's there it has to work, but if it's not it's not required. Anyone? __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

08-06-06, 09:18 PM	#4
Biker Biggles Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Barnet Herts Posts: 5,071	I use that parking light on the SV. It's put there so that you can drain your battery while the bike is parked up at work all day. __________________ On a clear day we stand there and look further than the ordinary eye can see.

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08-06-06, 09:09 PM	#2
BILLY Guest Posts: n/a	I think as long as you have a pilot light which also works a a park light that's all you need!!!!

08-06-06, 09:14 PM	#3
Warren Guest Posts: n/a	ok, im gonna ask further. (as were now officially rebuilding a bike) does a bike have to have a sidelight ? what if there is no sidelight/parking fitted (were talking that little stupid led thing that no one uses) can we get away with just removing the bulb, therefore technically not having one fitted, or do i need to remove the switchgear bit too ? its gonna be a pain in the ass to fit a sidelight as most aftermarket headlight units dont have provisions for one. (i might just use a hornet or SV headlight)

08-06-06, 09:21 PM	#5
Warren Guest Posts: n/a	on the CBR's (that were streetfightering) there is no option for a parking light, therefore you need the keys in the ignition to have it on.

08-06-06, 11:07 PM	#7
facade Guest Posts: n/a	My Bros does not have a pilot light, nor a position on the switch for it. (Japanese spec) It MOTs no problem. It is headlight and taillight or no lights at all. Conclusion: a bike does NOT require a pilot light.

09-06-06, 07:56 AM	#8
falc Guest Posts: n/a	Plenty of bikes seem to not have them, I guess if you have it, it must work but if you've removed it then it should be ok...anyone got a proper answer

09-06-06, 08:10 AM	#9
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Falc, ALL bikes have them, just sometimes they aint seperate and are built into the headlights.

09-06-06, 02:38 PM	#10
haggis Guest Posts: n/a	OK, i think in your case northy the answer is NO, not required for an MOT. see here (that's the second time i've linked to there today, I should be on commission) In short, I read that as.... If you don't have a headlamp you must have a position lamp or it will be recorded as a daytime only machine. If you have a headlamp, it is not a requirement to have a position lamp. HTH.