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Old 12-01-07, 11:11 PM   #1
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Ok I got into a discussion during a Go game about someone I said should be hung, drawn and quartered.

They (American) corrected me that it should be Hanged Drawn and quartered.

Now I'll be danged if I'm going to have my English, crap as it is, corrected by Yanks lol
Yet when I looked it up I can't find any reference to it and it keeps coming up as "Hanged Drawn and Quartered" with the exception of Wikipedia which I loath to put forward as my only source.

Am I going insane or is hung, drawn, and quartered valid? I'm sure thats the phrase I grew up with in History and documentaries...
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Old 12-01-07, 11:16 PM   #2
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The American is right. Past tense of 'hang' as in a person is 'hanged', past tense of 'hang' as in an item is 'hung'.

Go eat humble pie mister
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Old 12-01-07, 11:21 PM   #3
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i'm afraid the americans may be right... as much as it pains me to say it .... correct meaning

It is a specific exception for hanging someone as opposed to hanging a picture

he hung a picture
he hanged himself

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hang

hth sammy [/i]
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Old 13-01-07, 12:08 AM   #4
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Guys, since we're on the subject

What is the correct expression for this?

"John Doe, in the service of Her Highness "

or

"John Doe, at the service of Her Highness".

Both sound funny to my ears, my friend says it's the former, I don't know what to say Opinions please!
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Old 13-01-07, 12:17 AM   #5
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Guys, since we're on the subject

What is the correct expression for this?

"John Doe, in the service of Her Highness "

or

"John Doe, at the service of Her Highness".

Both sound funny to my ears, my friend says it's the former, I don't know what to say Opinions please!
I think it goes something like this.

If you are a member of staff of the Royal Household then it is the former. The same applies to Officers of HM Forces that hold the Queen's Commission.

For everyone else, its the latter, but only if you are being "presented" to the Queen.

I think
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Old 13-01-07, 12:26 AM   #6
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Merci beaucoup!
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Old 13-01-07, 12:51 PM   #7
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Filipe - or is it Filly Pie - we're not servile here any more
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Old 13-01-07, 01:54 PM   #8
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Filipe - or is it Filly Pie - we're not servile here any more
I've also been called Philly Pie...
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Old 13-01-07, 03:22 PM   #9
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People are hanged, dead meat is hung. So first you get hanged, then you get hung. But "hung, drawn and quartered" would be acceptable as it's a specific term in traditional use- I forget the name for it but specifics overrule generalities. There's some latin you can use to justify it
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Old 13-01-07, 03:46 PM   #10
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So is one 'well hung', or 'well hanged', then? :P
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