Counter counter steering - does it exist? - SV650.org

15-10-07, 08:51 AM

Hi, sometimes I've managed to brake hard in a corner, and had to steer the opposite way to normal, ie counter counter steer. The front wheel has always felt on the limit of grip and i've been fighting to keep the bike lent over. Total bollox?

15-10-07, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thor

and i've been fighting to keep the bike lent over.

If you are on the front brake while turning, the bike will be trying to stand up. Then if you release the brake the front will drop over again.

could this explain it?

15-10-07, 09:05 AM

Use the rear in a corner and you can tend to keep it at same lean, dont hit it too hard though as you will be goin further and further and further and doh!

Only use this if im hot in a corner mind.

Viney · 15-10-07, 09:15 AM

DONT DO IT!!! You'' upset the space time continum and go back to 1955!

Cranking on the front barke in mid corner is baaaad. As siad the bike will sit up and want to go straight. Unless youre very heavy and can still lean the bike round!

15-10-07, 09:17 AM

That's what I am saying, I am pushing on the bars the other way, ie, push right bar forward to go left, to keep the bike cranked over.

Doesn't happen often mind....

15-10-07, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor

That's what I am saying, I am pushing on the bars the other way, ie, push right bar forward to go left, to keep the bike cranked over.

Doesn't happen often mind....

Push right bar forward to go left...

That's counter steering. Not "counter-counter steering."

15-10-07, 09:27 AM

Yes I do it all the time, I lean on rights, and counter steer on lefts.

15-10-07, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baph

Push right bar forward to go left...

That's counter steering. Not "counter-counter steering."

Wouldn't counter steering be pushing on the left bar (turning it to the right) to go left? It's quite confusing the way it's said though!

15-10-07, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffles

Wouldn't counter steering be pushing on the left bar (turning it to the right) to go left? It's quite confusing the way it's said though!

Nah, counter-steering is pulling on the right bar to go left.

(I stand corrected

)

15-10-07, 09:55 AM

Can you imagine an onlooker trying to picture and run the motions through their head, i'm doin knots in my small brain!

15-10-07, 08:51 AM	#1
thor Guest Posts: n/a	Counter counter steering - does it exist? Hi, sometimes I've managed to brake hard in a corner, and had to steer the opposite way to normal, ie counter counter steer. The front wheel has always felt on the limit of grip and i've been fighting to keep the bike lent over. Total bollox?

15-10-07, 09:05 AM	#3
plowsie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Counter counter steering - does it exist? Use the rear in a corner and you can tend to keep it at same lean, dont hit it too hard though as you will be goin further and further and further and doh! Only use this if im hot in a corner mind. Last edited by plowsie; 15-10-07 at 09:28 AM.

15-10-07, 09:15 AM	#4
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Re: Counter counter steering - does it exist? DONT DO IT!!! You'' upset the space time continum and go back to 1955! Cranking on the front barke in mid corner is baaaad. As siad the bike will sit up and want to go straight. Unless youre very heavy and can still lean the bike round!

15-10-07, 09:17 AM	#5
thor Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Counter counter steering - does it exist? That's what I am saying, I am pushing on the bars the other way, ie, push right bar forward to go left, to keep the bike cranked over. Doesn't happen often mind....

15-10-07, 09:27 AM	#7
Grinch Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Counter counter steering - does it exist? Yes I do it all the time, I lean on rights, and counter steer on lefts.

15-10-07, 09:55 AM	#10
plowsie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Counter counter steering - does it exist? Can you imagine an onlooker trying to picture and run the motions through their head, i'm doin knots in my small brain!

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