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Gutted:(
Stupid old **** in a Skoda estate just reversed into the side of the Duke today. Thank God we had witnesses who were more than happy to give their details to us. One lady was almost more angry on our behalf than we were!
Bike is rideable, fortunately.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Pansiesandbikedamage006.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Pansiesandbikedamage008.jpg
Middle section of fairing broken, broken indicator, broken brake lever.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Pansiesandbikedamage012.jpg
Clip-on bent.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Ducatisti%20posts/Pansiesandbikedamage016.jpg
There is also a scuff on the mirror, pillion hanger bent slightly.:(
Did they stick around? Looks like you were on it, are you both ok- how's your hand? And your kit?
So gutted for you Pete and Lissa :(
Hugs for my favourite lady :grouphug:
*******s!! Hope you can restore it to past glories ok.
Alpinestarhero
22-11-08, 04:32 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Stupid duffer in skoda. I'm always scared fo people knocking my bike over
and come on, its friggin yellow, how can you not see it?!
dizzyblonde
22-11-08, 04:36 PM
ARRRRGGGGHHHH...I bet it were an old duffer in a Skoda as well, I thought they were fitted with those beep alarm things that let them know when there was a Duke behind them??
You can't possibly miss something so yellow :-(
You can't possibly miss something so yellow :-(
Hmmm i dunno, my first sv was yellow....
ouch not good, hope you get it sorted
What a ****#er !
Hope u get it sorted and the bloke does the decent thing
Cheers Steveg
muffles
22-11-08, 05:00 PM
Did they stick around? Looks like you were on it, are you both ok- how's your hand? And your kit?
So gutted for you Pete and Lissa :(
Hugs for my favourite lady :grouphug:
I was thinking they weren't on it, actually - sidestand's down?
But anyway, hope you sort it out easily - hope you got multiple witness details as sometimes they aren't contactable, etc.
So, did he do it while you were there, or did you come back to that?
Yeah I spotted that after I posted.
And then I went on the ducatisti forum and Pete revealed a bit more- they parked up to pop into the shop..
Popped into the local shops at Shipston and parked the bike in the bus stop bay. Came out to find it lying on it's side together with a very irate witness and a myopic Skoda driver. Seems he reversed out of the parking bays across two lanes and pushed the bike over. He couldn't see it in his mirror apparently despite it being a yellow bike and sunny. The witness was irate because, she says, he was just going to clear off and it was only her and another witness eyeballing him persuaded him to stop.
I wonder if Lissa had her crossbow with her?
Shellywoozle
22-11-08, 05:13 PM
OMG what a horrible sight ! Hope you get it sorted very very soon and ensure the Skoda driver pays ..... not good !! Good on the witnesses too.
:( sure the Skoda man has had his head put back on straight by Lissa and Pete ! ;)
chris8886
22-11-08, 05:16 PM
that's a big shame! i hope you manage to get the full whack for everything out of em. yet another reason not to like skoda's ey? ;)
hope it's sorted quickly.
ThEGr33k
22-11-08, 05:17 PM
Very sorry to hear about this!!!! Hope you can get it all fixed up asap!
Hope you are all ok!
:D
Seggons
22-11-08, 05:26 PM
Ah rubbish news, I hope everything goes smoothly for you. :)
dizzyblonde
22-11-08, 05:31 PM
I wonder if Lissa had her crossbow with her?
Even without a crossbow I hope he was scared enough of her:smt099
Thanks everyone.
I could have cried earlier, but I'm feeling a lot calmer now. Luckily we were just round the corner from Robsom Racing, run by our friend Mike, and he had an indicator in stock. We also had a spare lever under the seat, so were able to change those quite easily.
The worst damage is to the fairing panel, but as that will be covered in fur from next weekend, we can live with that for a while.
We got the drivers details, and his reg no, and details of two witnesses, so will be persuing him for the repair costs via his insurance.:smt067
Shellywoozle
22-11-08, 05:37 PM
Yeyyyy your Duke is Bikedolf II
dizzyblonde
22-11-08, 05:39 PM
I do hope he tries not to wriggle out of coughing up, being parked in the bus bay :-(
I should think that despite where they were parked, he can't have paid much attention not to notice that standing there.. If he tries to wriggle out of it Lissa can go round for a word with her crossbow, or if they like, I could accompany them and be intimidating :p
dizzyblonde
22-11-08, 05:48 PM
I think Larry would be intimidating enough with them boogly eyes staring at ya;)
I do hope he tries not to wriggle out of coughing up, being parked in the bus bay :-(
Maybe, but we were on the far side of the road and he crossed TWO lanes of traffic to hit it. He just didn't look. What if it had been a mother crossing the road with a pushchair?
kwak zzr
22-11-08, 05:57 PM
oh nooooooo your loverly duke :(
dizzyblonde
22-11-08, 06:06 PM
Maybe, but we were on the far side of the road and he crossed TWO lanes of traffic to hit it. He just didn't look. What if it had been a mother crossing the road with a pushchair?
very good point...... A*hole then:rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
22-11-08, 06:17 PM
What a ******!
Gonna streetfighter it then pete? :-P
Good excuse to get rid of the silly stickers now though eh lissa?
Speedy Claire
22-11-08, 06:19 PM
Oh no...... really bad news. Gutted for you and Pete but glad you`re both ok
Biker Biggles
22-11-08, 07:29 PM
Bad news but actually you were lucky.At least you got the tosser who did it unlike when it happened to me there was no one to be seen.
sorry to hear about the bike any ideas when your likely to get it fixed or not got that far yet.
tanis34
22-11-08, 08:42 PM
gutted for you both hope the claim goes well , good on the witnesses to grab him before he did a runner, nice to there are some decent people out there
DarrenSV650S
22-11-08, 08:59 PM
That's a shame Lissa. Such a beautiful bike. Like has been said, at least you have someone to blame
Could have been worse. You could have still been on it. Still a bugger though obviously.
Mr Speirs
22-11-08, 09:23 PM
Noooooooooooooo. You know when someone posted a pic of that broken duke I was beside myself thinking it was yours then after scrolling down a little saw that it wasn't yours and then you go and post this up!!!!
My first thought when I saw that was...'where are Pete and Lissa'????
I then thought ahhh doesn't look that bad...pete normally leans it that far over anyway :)
I am really sorry for you guys. :(
Oh no. So sorry to see your baby like that :( Did Skoda guy not hang around? Hope you get things sorted out quickly :thumleft:
thedonal
22-11-08, 10:57 PM
Damn. Sorry to hear about that.
Glad you's weren't on it. What an idiot- how could anyone miss a bright yellow bike?
Grrrr.
thefallenangel
23-11-08, 12:22 AM
Does it have a special bits of kit on it like the SV did which got damaged? If so were they insured otherwise Mr Insurance man might not be too happy.
Always better to see your bike down than you and your bike down. Good Luck chasing him
Dangerous Dave
23-11-08, 11:11 AM
Sorry to here that Pete and Lissa, at least the damage is minimal and will be cheap(er) to fix.
fadedhalo
23-11-08, 11:12 AM
:( sad sight to see a nice looking bike like that laying on its side. Glad you werent on it and no one is hurt!
hope you get it fixed up soon!
Thanks everyone.
I could have cried yesterday, but I'm feeling better today. At least the bike is still rideable, so it hasn't put our Rudolph transformation on hold:p
Sorry to here that Pete and Lissa, at least the damage is minimal and will be cheap(er) to fix.
Um..............had an estimate done at Robsom Racing yesterday. 2.6k NOT including labour:shock:
Admittedly, 1.3k is for the exhaust system.
Dangerous Dave
23-11-08, 11:38 AM
Um..............had an estimate done at Robsom Racing yesterday. 2.6k NOT including labour:shock:
Admittedly, 1.3k is for the exhaust system.
:( I didn't realise there was damage to the exhaust, well at least it is cheap to get her straight for the road.
Don't you have a spare exhaust (or two)?
That's a hell of a price :(
kwak zzr
23-11-08, 12:04 PM
prob a silly question but wont 2.6k + labour render you duke a write off?
prob a silly question but wont 2.6k + labour render you duke a write off?
Over my ****ing dead body!:smt067:smt067:smt067
Writing her off is NOT an option, I will NOT accept it.
We've also just discovered this morning that the radiator is dented.............that wasn't in the initial assessment.
Don't you have a spare exhaust (or two)?
That's a hell of a price :(
Why should we write off the exhaust.................we didn't damage it?
If it was our fault, we'd live with it, but it wasn't.
kwak zzr
23-11-08, 12:21 PM
it should be fixed up same as before no matter what cost.
Why should we write off the exhaust.................we didn't damage it?
If it was our fault, we'd live with it, but it wasn't.
Yes good point, but if you need one to get around with, you have one don't you?
Hopefully you spot anything else not on the original assessment. How's Pete- still his calm self or has it gotten to him?
Yes good point, but if you need one to get around with, you have one don't you?
Hopefully you spot anything else not on the original assessment. How's Pete- still his calm self or has it gotten to him?
The one that's on now is ok for getting round with, but it's dinked. Cosmetic damage. Also just noticed a crack in the front fairing support:rolleyes:
Just gets worse:(
Pete's calm, but understands why I'm so upset. I've never owned anything as nice as the Duke before.
kwak zzr
23-11-08, 12:34 PM
cant u let them cat c it lissa then pete do the repairs himself? i'm sure with pete and your skills she'd be good as new in no time.
cant u let them cat c it lissa then pete do the repairs himself? i'm sure with pete and your skills she'd be good as new in no time.
That will be our only acceptance of writing her off...............we get to buy her back.
The one that's on now is ok for getting round with, but it's dinked. Cosmetic damage. Also just noticed a crack in the front fairing support:rolleyes:
Just gets worse:(
Pete's calm, but understands why I'm so upset. I've never owned anything as nice as the Duke before.
It'll be as good as new before too long Lissa :)
kwak zzr
23-11-08, 12:41 PM
its worked for me twice Lissa and Pete's Handy'r with a spanner than me lol, its a ****ter its happened at all but I'm sure you'll sort it.
the problem is when you get the total bill inc labor your insurance company would much rather pay you out even tho you know theres not much wrong with your Italian stallion.
Congratulations, looks like a nice little earner ;)
Yes, very sorry for you I'm sure it was an initial shock for you. Also I appreciate it's your baby and you want it to be perfect compared with how I view mine. But with figures being bandied about like this for what I assume to be minor cosmetic damage. The exhaust for example is hardly seen I didn't think in would have touched down in the first place.
So all going well with the 3rd Party's insurance, I really hope this works out for you :)
DarrenSV650S
23-11-08, 01:50 PM
Bit surprised the exhaust got hit. I always liked the idea of an underseat exhaust, thinking it would be relatively protected
Congratulations, looks like a nice little earner ;)
Yes, very sorry for you I'm sure it was an initial shock for you. Also I appreciate it's your baby and you want it to be perfect compared with how I view mine. But with figures being bandied about like this for what I assume to be minor cosmetic damage. The exhaust for example is hardly seen I didn't think in would have touched down in the first place.
So all going well with the 3rd Party's insurance, I really hope this works out for you :)
Nice little earner! :smt067
I'd rather have it undamaged than a 'nice little earner'!
It may all seem ' cosmetic' but it isn't.................and even if it was why should we put up with damage we haven't caused?
I'm surprised the can got creased, but it must have gone over with some force to dink the radiator anyway.
Yes, we could live with the pin damage on the top yoke for example, but that is one of the first things any prospective buyer would check as that shows the bike has gone over. The same thing applies to the radiator.......you don't see it with the panels in place but it's very obvious when you look. Therefore, as it stands, it's value is diminished and through no fault of our own.
missyburd
23-11-08, 06:04 PM
Poor Dieselmodici! Those pics are heartwrenching, nothing worse than seeing a bike horizontal, just ain't natural! (Not that going at certain speeds on 2 wheels is promoted by Mother Nature herself :lol: )
Hope Pete and you work magic and get her back into pristine shape once more, at least Bikedolf II can still take to the roads :)
bummmmer... such a lovely well kept bike... it seems to be that skoda drivers are taking over from the volvo drivers of old... hope you and pete can get it fixed without cat,c.
big warm cheer up hugs from me to you both :grouphug:
That will be our only acceptance of writing her off...............we get to buy her back.
They don't have to write it off if you are doing the repairs yourself. When I stuffed my SV under a car earlier this year it caused £2350 worth of damage to a £2800 bike - easily in write off territory. I haggled with the assessor/engineer who came to see it and we settled on a 1600 quid cheque for me to keep the bike and repair it myself, but I told him I would only accept it if wasn't classed as Cat C or D. He accepted.
I ended up spending just £800 to get it looking better than when I bought it 2 weeks before I crashed it. That 800 quid included buying a complete new full fairing from Steve Jordan Suzuki.
How awful Lissa :(, at least it is still rideable and both of you are okay. I hope you and Pete manage to get it sorted soon. Big hugs from me... Foxy xx
it should be fixed up same as before no matter what cost.
What a lot of people don't realise is that you as the owner decide what happens to your bike - the insurance company does not own it, you do. If you say you want it rebuilding back to pre-accident condition then they have no choice but to do as you say. It takes a bit of a fight with them usually, but in law they cannot tell you what to do - you own the vehicle, they don't until you accept a final payment from them for writing it off.
I'd push for them to rebuild it at whatever cost it takes.
Not saying you're not entitled to have it back to condition it was before.
Just I would be very surprised if you couldn't make a profit out of w/o & repair yourself then you get most of the sale value of the bike & you get to keep it :D so don't need to worry about resale value.
:eye: 8-[ :smt058
Not saying you're not entitled to have it back to condition it was before.
Just I would be very surprised if you couldn't make a profit out of w/o & repair yourself then you get most of the sale value of the bike & you get to keep it :D so don't need to worry about resale value.
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/user1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-14.jpg:eye: 8-[ :smt058
Can't see the image Stu ...
Wow thats a shame Lissa, but 2.6 k plus labour ? thats scary.
Just logged in today... not good... :smt022
Hope everything will go ok with the claim.
Not saying you're not entitled to have it back to condition it was before.
Just I would be very surprised if you couldn't make a profit out of w/o & repair yourself then you get most of the sale value of the bike & you get to keep it :D so don't need to worry about resale value.
:eye: 8-[ :smt058
The opportunity to profit from it is definitely there. The insco has priced the damage up with replacing it with new parts in mind, but there are plenty of very good condition used spares to be bought at a fraction of the new cost. Both me and the insurance assessor/engineer acknowledged this when we were haggling over the cost to repair my bike, we also agreed that certain items could be repaired rather than replaced, like the exhaust can that had a dinked and scraped strap (cost me nothing to repair, I beat it back with a hammer and a piece of hard plastic then polished the scratches out). I factored in my own labour at £10 per hour too, and he agreed to pay that as well.
As I said in my pervious post, you can do the repairs yourself and keep the vehicle off the HPI write off register simply by asking politely. If the vehicle is being rebuilt to a satisfactory condition at their expense, there isn't any need for them to write it off in the first place.
Admittedly, 1.3k is for the exhaust system.
I can't for one second believe that the exhaust system has £1300 worth of damage to it. How did they come up with that figure?
Most of it is hidden by front lower bodywork that would have to sustain damage before the exhaust got hit, and those bits that are exposed don't come to anywhere near £1300 - the carbon leg shield isn't even scratched, all that could have taken a belt is the right hand silencer and possibly the drop bracket
yorkie_chris
23-11-08, 10:09 PM
Surely £1300 will get you a pretty decent aftermarket performance system surely..
DarrenSV650S
23-11-08, 10:17 PM
Yeh it should. And don't call me Shirley
plowsie
23-11-08, 11:19 PM
£2.6k to fix up :shock:
£1300 for the system :shock:
Can't ya just get some new end cans for them or are they straight through no splits in the system?
Thats mad!
Glad you two weren't on the bike.
EDIT: Is it listed on the insurance(the system)?
ethariel
24-11-08, 12:07 AM
£2.6k to fix up :shock:
£1300 for the system :shock:
Can't ya just get some new end cans for them or are they straight through no splits in the system?
Sure!
However the myopic old fart's insurance company will have to stump up FULL original parts cost (which we all know are so grossly overinflated price wise that frankly they could lift the bleeding Hindenberg if they wanted to)
£2.6k to fix up :shock:
£1300 for the system :shock:
Can't ya just get some new end cans for them or are they straight through no splits in the system?
Thats mad!
Glad you two weren't on the bike.
The cans bolt on seperately to two pipes under the seat unit. They are supported by a common bracket that comes off the rear subframe under the tailpiece. No way does one can and a bracket cost 1300 quid.
plowsie
24-11-08, 12:11 AM
Sure!
However the myopic old fart's insurance company will have to stump up FULL original parts cost (which we all know are so grossly overinflated price wise that frankly they could lift the bleeding Hindenberg if they wanted to)
Something I do hate about things like that really.
My missus's auntie got her Bentley crashed into the back by a girl who had only passed her test for three weeks. The repairs to the Bentley cost £27,000 and the loaned Bentley was costing £800 per week on her insurance. Totalled over £30,000 on that girls insurance.
The annoying thing about it all was, the loan Bentley sat on the drive for two weeks and didn't move.
plowsie
24-11-08, 12:12 AM
The cans bolt on seperately to two pipes under the seat unit. They are supported by a common bracket that comes off the rear subframe under the tailpiece. No way does one can and a bracket cost 1300 quid.
So they have to quote for the full system still?????
The exhaust system is JHP. Two problems.
1 You can't buy just one can, they are sold in pairs.:rolleyes:
2 That system is no longer available anyway.:rolleyes:
The quote is for replacement equivalent cans, although we admit we're struggling to understand where he gets 1.3k from.
Remember, these aren't our figures, these are the figures of the guy who did the estimate.
Dangerous Dave
24-11-08, 08:08 AM
The quote is for replacement equivalent cans, although we admit we're struggling to understand where he gets 1.3k from.
Sounds about right for a Termi system.
petevtwin650
24-11-08, 08:27 AM
As Lissa said, we've been struggling to find how he came by that figure although I do know he used JHP to get his prices.
Our cans are titianium 54mm not the more common carbon 45mm.
This is the closest I could find.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/Ducati/Damage/Dukecans.jpg
startrek.steve
24-11-08, 08:51 AM
Bad luck Pete N Lissa,
same thing with mine, few knocks and they wrote it off, mine was £2600 as well. Didnt know you could haggle over the Cat D status, would have been nice to not have a CAT D stuck on its history, mind you Im well up in the money stakes, and IF I ever sell her, Ive kept all the estimates, Real repair bills & photos of the damage, so any potential buyer can see what happened.
Steve
Dicky Ticker
24-11-08, 08:51 AM
Motorbikes like boats have this strange way of being able to give suppliers a license to print money when you require replacement parts.
Twice this year I have had off's,neither my fault,but because I want to keep my bike I have refused a replacement bike and only had the price of replacement parts in the insurance claim in order to keep the costs of the claim to a minimum. Insurers and repairers keep adding bits and pieces on to the claim and before you know it costs have risen beyond the value of an economical repair.At this stage the insurers offer silly money for complete replacement value,cancel the insurance as it is regarded as a total loss,and sell the bike to recoup some of their losses when you know that the damage is purely cosmetic--------------GOOD LUCK
N.B.If you take a cash settlement for the repairs it is not normally listed on the vehicles history
i.e. not a cat damage listing
petevtwin650
24-11-08, 09:01 AM
I'm not looking forward to dealing with the insurance TBH. It's my first claim in over 10 years and 100,000+ miles on a bike. Guess I've been lucky. Never even dropped the Sv's in the time I had them apart from when one mysteriously fell off the paddock stand whilst I was a work.
Luckily the bike is still rideable, so we can still use it, although I have to replace the right clip on.
plowsie
24-11-08, 09:23 AM
Hope he doesn't try to wriggle out of it because of you being parked in the bus bay.
Dicky Ticker
24-11-08, 09:45 AM
Only a suggestion, Prepare an estimate only for the cost of parts at the best price you can source them at and offer to do the work yourself. Compare this to the dealers estimate which is supplied to the insurance,remembering you have to deduct your excess.If your estimate is less than the insurance estimate propose you accept a cash settlement and this way it doesn't cost you any money and is normally much much quicker in getting your claim settled and the bike repaired and back on the road in A1 condition
I am not being flippant,but after running a transport company for 30+ years dealing with numerous claims I have found this to be the best approach.
As previously stated good luck in whatever approach you take as it is an arduous up hill struggle with most insurance companies
...remembering you have to deduct your excess...
:confused:, I thought that applies only if you claim against your own insurance.
Dicky Ticker
24-11-08, 10:10 AM
Yes that is correct but normally your insurance pays for and authorizes the repair then claims back from the third party,meaning that you have to pay the excess till they admit full liability. It then becomes a further claim by your legal expenses cover which is normally very long winded.
If you are lucky enough for the third party to admit liability from the outset,no problem, but in this case I was looking at the worst case scenario with regard to the bus stop which may offer them grounds for contention,hopefully this will not be the case.
Every claim has to be looked at individually as no hard and fast rule applies and insurance companies will use any excuse or loophole to wriggle out of paying or at best delaying payments after all they are in it to make money not give it away.
kwak zzr
24-11-08, 04:05 PM
The exhaust system is JHP. Two problems.
1 You can't buy just one can, they are sold in pairs.:rolleyes:
2 That system is no longer available anyway.:rolleyes:
The quote is for replacement equivalent cans, although we admit we're struggling to understand where he gets 1.3k from.
Remember, these aren't our figures, these are the figures of the guy who did the estimate.
my 2 bikes that were assessed were drastically generous estimates by the assessor, i personally think he didn't know much of what he was doing.
DanAbnormal
24-11-08, 07:05 PM
Bugger. Hope it gets sorted.....but why the hell will it be covered in fur!!?!?!?!
dizzyblonde
24-11-08, 07:20 PM
Bugger. Hope it gets sorted.....but why the hell will it be covered in fur!!?!?!?!
xmas toy run I think
Arrww, Sorry Pete and Lissa just seen this thread, I feel for you both...
You know how much I lov the Ducati 996
Bugger. Hope it gets sorted.....but why the hell will it be covered in fur!!?!?!?!
xmas toy run I think
Yep indeedy:D
The whole of December covered in fur and wearing antlers:rendeer:
Arrww, Sorry Pete and Lissa just seen this thread, I feel for you both...
You know how much I lov the Ducati 996
Thanks Richie:smt008
tanis34
24-11-08, 09:31 PM
Bugger. Hope it gets sorted.....but why the hell will it be covered in fur!!?!?!?!
http://www.bmf-midlands.co.uk/Whats%20On/Christmas%20Toy%20Run%202008.JPG
its gonna be bikedolf again
BanannaMan
25-11-08, 03:52 AM
Sorry to hear. :(
Hope you get it all sorted soon.
DanAbnormal
25-11-08, 09:07 AM
Yep indeedy:D
The whole of December covered in fur and wearing antlers:rendeer:
Wicked. Can't wait to see pics.
joshmac
25-11-08, 09:20 AM
Wicked. Can't wait to see pics.
+1
northwind
25-11-08, 07:32 PM
What if it had been a mother crossing the road with a pushchair?
Then it would have saved a pretty bike from getting dinged up. Babies heal by themselves, bikes need new parts :smt003 Still, sounds like it should be relatively easy to sort out...
Then it would have saved a pretty bike from getting dinged up. Babies heal by themselves, bikes need new parts :smt003
See, I knew there had to be some use for babies!:D
Maybe, but we were on the far side of the road and he crossed TWO lanes of traffic to hit it. He just didn't look. What if it had been a mother crossing the road with a pushchair?
Won't somebody think of the children!?
I've got enough of my own to think about, thank you.
:smt041:smt041:smt041:smt041
The guys insurer's have admitted full liability! That means Pete should regain his full no claims bonus, his premium will drop and he'll get his excess back and maybe even the difference between the estimate and the offer we accepted to not have the bike written off.
Today is a good day!
:rave:
missyburd
08-05-09, 04:12 PM
Wooo that's great news Lissa! Spend it wisely now (by which I mean on fuel and bacon butties at rideouts :-P)
dizzyblonde
08-05-09, 04:13 PM
wooohooo:smt035
davepreston
08-05-09, 04:14 PM
bacon butties on lissa at teh peaks woohoo
Bloody hell........I was like OH NO NOT AGAIN lol
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