Hyperoptic fog city?

[hovis]

has anyone got one?

i have a clear one and its great, so was thinking of getting a tinted one, but may go for a Hyperoptic........ do they work in the sun and what are they like at night?

[Dangerous Dave]

I found they never actually went fully clear and always had a tinge to them, this is more noticeable at night and they they also produced glare.

[Nobbylad]

I've got one, like it lots, no glare, hyperoptic is OK but the main advantage is it is fog free, ALWAYS.

There is a tint to it all the time, but probably only about the same as my tinted visor (legal tint).

Biggest issue I have is that the sticky stuff isn't sticky enough to keep it in place for too long and I have had it come off a few times.

I think people have put the odd drop of superglue on to hold it in place.

Maybe the pinlock version would be ideal?

[northwind]

Yeah, they're not supposed to go fully clear... Yellow and green tints are supposedly better for depth perception in low light, it's by design. I like mine, I've got a pinlock in one helmet and a fog city in the other one and I do prefer the tint of the fog city. They both demist exactly as well as the other. The only real issue is that the tint is never very dark, so they're no susbtitute for a dark visor in really bright sun- they can take the edge of a bright day but they don't really make that much difference. I've never had any glare/reflection issues at all but you do hear a lot of people say they do, I've sometimes wondered if it might vary by helmet or by fitment.

[AndyBrad]

ive got the one that turnes blue in the light. I fited it to a brand new visor in august and it came off in october. It was fitted properly and i took my time to do it.
Since then it doesnt stick well at all. I believe its due to the temp change. Ie You fit it inside. Then when you go ouside and it gets very cold it shrinks away from the visor as the glue gives up. Then as it comes back up to temp the glue resticks but the visor has shifted slightly so you no longer get the air gap sealed.

Usage wise it was bloody fantastic till it stopped sticking and if they did a pukka pinlock one i would get one. but at 30 quid its a lot of cash for something that imo has lasted all of 3 months... Ill probably go for a yellow tinted pinlock next. Maybe?

[northwind]

Hmm. I've had one in my old Arai for 3 winters now, and no problems like that... And I've had to knock ice off my visor a couple of times :mrgreen: So I'm not sure it's the cold.

[RichT]

I've got one and think its one of the best pieces of kit I've purchased. Never had any problems. The tint is blue in the sun and a light greeny/yellow in the dark - works perfectly and I've never suffered with glare at all. In fact the only thing that occassionally happens is a lil bit of condensation on the bottom edge from your breath... and at this point... NO misting... Infact my glasses (when I haven't got me contacts in) will mist up in seconds whilst the Hyperoptic stays clear.

[DaveP]

I have one and its a cracking piece of kit. £25 off flee bay.

had the mist from my breath inside the lid last week and it still didnt fog... Stop on.


Dave

[hovis]

so its perfectly safe to use at night time?

[DaveP]

i have not had issue with mine in the dark

[Dangerous Dave]

I will add I had one of the first design, it may have been improved since then.

[Grinch]

Mines been fine for 3 years now, the only thing I can say is clean them like you would a normal visor. As most of the time the extra glare that people think they are getting is normally grease and dirt on the 'in-side' of the visor.

[northwind]

so its perfectly safe to use at night time?

I'm not sure I'd like the blue one in the dark. Mine is yellow, works a charm. There's science involved, different vision tints do have some interesting physical and psychological effects apparently. I don't know much about it, but I've read that competition cyclists often wear blue sunglasses on gloomy days because it gives a mental boost (the sky looks cheerful and blue) for instance, and the yellow/light green at night thing seems to be true.

[RichT]

Persimmon or the yellow colour does increase depth perception and visibility in low light conditions (skiers know this all too well) and the blue is designed to reduce glare in bright conditions (it also makes the day feel brighter).

I would say buy one - I'd be extremely surprised if you're disappointed.

[Dangerous Dave]

Persimmon or the yellow colour does increase depth perception and visibility in low light conditions (skiers know this all too well) and the blue is designed to reduce glare in bright conditions (it also makes the day feel brighter).
Nothing for darkness then, it would also be interesting to no of there legality at night. I am sure they will remain in the loop hole as they are on the inside of the visor, but what would an investigator say after an accident?

[AndyBrad]

The one that changes colour is almost clear at night.

Just as a bye the bye i got some of that antifog stuff at the nec. Bloody brill on the visor. Rubbish on the glasses. But worth it imo. Im just using the fog city as a tint now due to the glur giving up the ghost around the edges.

[Dangerous Dave]

The one that changes colour is almost clear at night.
Must be a newer design then, the original had a green tinge when so called clear and blue when so called tinted.

[RichT]

Nothing for darkness then, it would also be interesting to no of there legality at night. I am sure they will remain in the loop hole as they are on the inside of the visor, but what would an investigator say after an accident?

TBH I'm not entirely sure, an investigator may have reason to question it if he/she believed it a contributing factor in an accident. However as you say it's inside the visor, the tint isn't opaque and is in reality no more than many factory tinted car windows, i.e. 10% (I think).

The main advantage is (in my experience) no fogging at all. The light reaction I feel is a benefit and aids my vision rather than hinders it. Granted it doesn't do anything to increase night vision, but it doesn't hinder it either, therefore in my view is no worse than a regular visor.

You can probably tell I rate these thing's pretty highly. :D

If we meet at the AR Dave, you're more than welcome to give it a go and make your own call.

[AndyBrad]

must be a newer design then, the original had a green tinge when so called clear and blue when so called tinted.


a very light tint when new but almost clear now. Sdont know why.

Maybe it is a newer design with poorer glue? :(

[Dangerous Dave]

If we meet at the AR Dave, you're more than welcome to give it a go and make your own call.
Thats ok, I'm happy with my Clear/Dark visors with there Pinlock inserts.

[AndyBrad]

Actually. A couple of questions. Those that ahv the insert ina shoei, do you find that it catches the visor seal when closing? At the top edge?

Also when u carry two visors ive seen these belts. It appears that they are flat against ur back. Wouldnt this snap the visor?

[Dangerous Dave]

Pinlock can be used in any visor, it was a product of Shoei which has now become universal. I have not had any issues with the seal, a mate did but he adjusted the visor to suit his Shoei.

As for the visor bags they are supposed to rest against your side, curving around the side of you waist not being flat against you back.

[Dangerous Dave]

http://www.motorbike-search-engine-shop.co.uk/Shop/CrashHelmets/Accessories/FS/VB1_1.jpg

[AndyBrad]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

[hovis]

can you get a hyper opticks pinlock?

i asked about at NEC and was told differant things? i cant find one online either?

i want one that clips into the pins, and not one you stick on


thanks

[Dangerous Dave]

can you get a hyper opticks pinlock?

You can get clear, tint, amber, or yellow at the moment.

Have a look here (http://www.racevisors.co.uk/category/pinlock) for the currently available.

[hovis]

You can get clear, tint, amber, or yellow at the moment.

Have a look here (http://www.racevisors.co.uk/category/pinlock) for the currently available.

ohhhhhh
cheers,

the guy on the arai stand (NEC) said that the hyperoptiks will be coming out with pinlock in 6-8 weeks, but other stalls said they already do them, although one did say it comes with the hooks for pinlock and glue on it, so you have to scrape all the glue off

[Dangerous Dave]

one did say it comes with the hooks for pinlock and glue on it, so you have to scrape all the glue off
Sounds like a bodge job to me, a Pinlock insert is help against the visor by tension created by the two post bending the insert. No glue is needed, both Pro-grip and Fog-city use glue as the posts are patented by Shoei.

[hovis]

Sounds like a bodge job to me, a Pinlock insert is help against the visor by tension created by the two post bending the insert. No glue is needed, both Pro-grip and Fog-city use glue as the posts are patented by Shoei.

yeah, i agree, i will just wait till they come out........... its not as if we get much sun anyway:(

[AndyBrad]

tbh im considering swapping my hyportec thingy for a propper shoei one. Fecking rubbish with massive amounts of condensation. Although tbh imt hinking the shoei one might be the same and i need a breath mask

[Dangerous Dave]

By Shoei I take it you are referring to Pinlock, they have branched off of Shoei now (well they are a branch of Shoei with there own company name).

I have no faults with Pinlock, I have found it far better than a Fogcity. Some riders where both Pinlock/fogcity with a Foggy mask, bit of an over kill I think as like I said I have never had any issues with it on its own.