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squirrel_hunter

08-11-09, 05:09 PM

All this talk of Buell made me ride a Harley again, this time a Road King Classic.

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The bike is very similar to the Street Glide I rode a few months back, its so similar I'd say its the same bike with just with some different clothes on. I was tempted to copy and paste what I wrote over to this one, but that would be cheating.

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So lets begin with the side stand that was difficult to get to and put down, the heal shift gear change that got in the way, and the BMW style switches. There is no rev counter on the bike so I was guessing at the gear changes, but there was a 6th gear indicator light which I think is great a it stops me from looking for magical 7th.

This one had cruse control on it and after a few miles of playing with it I understood how it worked and found it useful in some places. But it switches its self off if you alter your speed and then you need to reset it. It would be nice if it would go back to its previous setting after giving it a little throttle to pass something as its not exactly straight forward to turn it on, and after a while I gave up with it.

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The massive screen made me laugh, but it like on the Street Glide didn't do much for the wind. And I can't help but think it added to the instability I felt at around 110mph. I was going to take it further but with the rear wheel twitching around I decided to back it off.

I also had this one for a little longer than the Street Glide so I got a bit more used to it and started to have a bit of fun with the traffic. I defiantly surprised a few car drivers as I came past. But I even surprised another Harley rider who tried to follow me, he gave up after a mile or so. So it goes to show it is possible to make these bikes move, and I would also add that this wasn't breaking the speed limit or pulling anything silly I was just using the bikes torque that was available.

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But I finally felt what ABS is like when it activates. The brakes on the bike were rubbish, but they had ABS. At one point I pulled out for an overtake and as I was drawing level with the Transits cab a car exited the corner ahead and he was shifting, so as I wasn't on my SV decided to drop back in behind the van. I started to brake to drop my speed but no sooner had I touched the leaver I felt the front slide. I recognized this as a front wheel lock, felt a pulse back through the leaver, and released the brake. The wheel re-griped and I put the brake on again and dropped back behind the van.

It was the pulse that was the ABS. Now this all happened in a split second but I'm sure it was the ABS that kicked in. The question of did it help and was it needed is one I can't really answer, I've locked and released wheels at higher speeds without incident on bikes without ABS. But I suppose every little helps, I just wonder why those Moto GP boys don't have it.

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Overall its very much the same as the Street Glide, but there was something about the Road King that just didn't feel as good. Probably the lack of the radio...

Total Test Ride Miles: 1045

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 10:23 AM

I was having a chat with one of the other bikers in the office who was after a link to these write-ups and while chatting about it I remembered that I hadn’t added the last ride I did as events around that time put it out of my mind some what. So I give you the Harley-Davidson XR1200

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Now as some time has passed from the actual ride to me writing this here it might be a little thin on the detail but I’ll do my best.

The seat was on the hard side and for some reason made me want to put my knees together as I rode. What made that feel even stranger was the fact that the tank was not symmetrical one side was higher than the other so griping the tank with my knees just didn't feel right.

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The bike had BMW switches for the indicators and a speedo that automatically illuminated itself when riding in the shadows of the trees, which was a nice touch.

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I remember taking the bike up to the giddy heights of 110mph but more sensibly 80mph was really as high as you'd want to go without adding a screen of sorts to help.

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I didn't like the way the bike handled at first, yes the power was reasonable, the brakes were good, and the sound of the exhaust was quite pleasing, but I didn't feel good on it. Until I altered how I controlled it, I changed my riding position shifting my weight forward. That transformed the bike making it a fun ride in the twistes with my weight over the wide bars.

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Surprisingly a fun bike and worth a look. My thanks also to RAF Brize Norton for not being to bothered about me parking in front of the emergency exit for the pictures on this ride and a couple before.

Total Test Ride Miles: 1093

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-03-10, 10:31 AM

What an awesome idea, just don't crash any of em, triumph have a £1000 excess.

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 10:32 AM

Well it’s nearly been a year since I started this thread so I think its time to draw to a close.

I’ve quite enjoyed doing these rides and it’s given me the opportunity to try lots of bikes that I would never otherwise had an opportunity to ride. I’ve also been lucky enough to ride with the Police and to get on track for the first time with tuition through this challenge. There are bikes that I still would like to try and I think that taking test rides will continue to be some what of a hobby of mine, but any future miles won’t be totalled up here. I think that I will try and do more rides on event days rather then through shops directly as there are probably a couple of places that I could do with giving a bit more time to cool off as I think a couple might have been getting wise to what I was doing. But having said that a local BMW dealer should expect a visit soon…

I would like to thank all of the unwitting dealers for their time and the loans of their bikes that made this possible for me. I would also like to thank everyone who gave suggestions of what bikes to ride and where to get them from who comments spurred me on.

Near the start of the thread Luke requested a list of the bikes and the miles done, so here it is:

Aprilia Dorsoduro ... 26 miles
Aprilia Mana 850 ... 30 miles
Aprilia Shiver 750 ... 26 miles
Aprilia Tuono 1000 R ... 34 miles
BMW K1300R ... 40 miles
BMW R1200GS ... 41 miles
Buell 1125CR ... 10 miles
Buell 1125R ... 180 miles
Buell XB12S ... 21 miles
Buell XB12X Ulysses ... 4 miles
Ducati Hypermotard 1100 ... 9 miles
Ducati Monster 696 ... 23 miles
Ducati Monster 1100S ... 12 miles
Ducati Streetfighter ... 13 miles
Harley-Davidson Road King Classic ... 48 miles
Harley-Davidson Street Glide ... 18 miles
Harley-Davidson XR1200 ... 48 miles
Honda CBR600RR ... 35 miles
Kawasaki ZX10R ... 26 miles
Kawasaki ZZR1400 ... 48 miles
KTM RC8 ... 47 miles
Moto Guzzi Griso ... 12 miles
Moto Guzzi Stelvio ... 20 miles
MV Agusta Brutale 910S ... 17 miles
Royal Enfield Bullet Classic 500 ... 13 miles
Suzuki B-King ... 150 miles
Suzuki GSXR1000 ... 16 miles
Triumph Daytona 675 ... 16 miles
Triumph Scrambler ... 17 miles
Triumph Speed Triple ... 32 miles
Triumph Street Triple R ... 16 miles
Triumph Tiger ... 17 miles
Victory Kingpin 8 Ball ... 28 miles

Finally, I throw the gauntlet down to the org, in a year I managed to clock up 1093 miles on 33 bikes… Can anyone beat that?

Sid Squid

11-03-10, 11:44 AM

Favourites, least favourites and why?

Stu

11-03-10, 12:29 PM

Favourites, least favourites and why?
Yup, I was also hoping for a one line summary to go with the list above.

Stig

11-03-10, 01:01 PM

3 miles on a test ride, and I thought the Hypermotard and Monster 1100 were short rides.

I took the SV on a 4500 mile test ride to the south of spain and back over 10 days. Where's my prize?

Awesome thread and sorry for the derail.

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 01:18 PM

I took the SV on a 4500 mile test ride to the south of spain and back over 10 days. Where's my prize?

Now that's cool. Did you buy the bike when you got back?

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 01:23 PM

Least favourites… Ducati's Hypermotard and Streetfighter are top of the list here for having twitchy handling and generally giving me an unstable feeling. The next would be the Moto Guzzi Griso for having a clutch so heavy only a weightlifter could manage it comfortably. And unfortunately the Royal Enfield would also have to make this list, for while I enjoyed the fact I was riding something so unexpected as that I really didn't appreciate the tyres going to jelly sending me sideways into a bend.

Favourites… The 1125R I think is a fantastic bike, though my judgment may be clouded by the time I spent with it on track. The RC8 was a stunning ride only let down by the engine and was surprisingly comfortable considering it doesn't have a seat. The B-King I really liked, it's not practical enough for me but it felt really good to ride. I keep looking at it in the showrooms being tempted by Suzuki's 0% offer, but no, not yet. I think come back to me in a couple of years once they hit the second hand market at reasonable rates and chances are there will be one in my garage. But for now the B-King, the 1125R and the RC8 will only occupy space in my dream garage.

But for my absolute favourite out of all of the bikes here? That choice is easy, the Triumph Scrambler. Bet no one was expecting that. As for why, that's easy, it's because it was the worst bike. It doesnt handle well, has no power and the brakes were rubbish, but it was so much fun to ride. And really that's what it all comes down to, getting to ride a bike that puts a smile on your face. I spent the ride giggling and I got off of that bike grinning from ear to ear and it all came down to the bike giving me time to enjoy what I was doing even though it was so bad at doing it. The Triumph Scrambler – Fun.

fatneck

11-03-10, 02:12 PM

Brilliant thread, have enjoyed reading this one all the way through. I vote it gets stickied!

Stig

11-03-10, 02:20 PM

Now that's cool. Did you buy the bike when you got back?

I did indeed. To be fair I was supposed to be doing the trip on my Bandit but a not very nice bus driver had other ideas and killed the bike (and tried his best to kill me too) just a week before the trip was about to start. Messy (here on the site) had just changed to a Bandit herself so let me use the SV so I could still make the trip (she was on the same trip). Got back home and told Messy she couldn't have it back. So in all honesty it wasn't strickly a test ride. So your still winning. :lol:

Stig

11-03-10, 02:24 PM

But for my absolute favourite out of all of the bikes here? That choice is easy, the Triumph Scrambler. Bet no one was expecting that. As for why, that's easy, it's because it was the worst bike. It doesnt handle well, has no power and the brakes were rubbish, but it was so much fun to ride. And really that's what it all comes down to, getting to ride a bike that puts a smile on your face. I spent the ride giggling and I got off of that bike grinning from ear to ear and it all came down to the bike giving me time to enjoy what I was doing even though it was so bad at doing it. The Triumph Scrambler – Fun.

But could you not see the fun factor disappear the longer you rode it and the more you got used to it? I could see lack of handling, power and brakes over riding the fun factor quite quickly.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-03-10, 02:24 PM

Can you test a Benelli?

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 08:31 PM

Can you test a Benelli?

I looked into getting one out. But the only Benelli dealer thats local is a very small shop and I don't think they had a demo model.

squirrel_hunter

11-03-10, 08:33 PM

But could you not see the fun factor disappear the longer you rode it and the more you got used to it? I could see lack of handling, power and brakes over riding the fun factor quite quickly.

Yes a bit, I see your point. However in the context of test rides it was my favorite. I wouldn't buy one, I'd just want to take one out every now and again to have some fun.

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 08:19 PM

Well I said I wouldn't, but I just can't help myself...

I decided to spend the day at Heart Of England Bike Show as I had so much fun last year. Time for some test rides then, but I think I'll keep the write ups a bit shorter this time. All the rides were accompanied either by the dealer, local advanced groups riders, or by the Police and all rides took the same route.

The day began with the Ducati 848

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As soon as I sat on it I felt at home. The bike was really good all round, and was remarkably comfortable.

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The power was very usable and was happy at all speeds even the slow precession out of the show ground. But out on the road as soon as you give it a handful the front just wants to come up. My is this fun to ride.

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If I were looking to by a sports bike, this would be it.

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The only down side I found was the lack of steering lock, as it didn't take to much parking up to find there location and to be teetering on the brink of dropping it. But more on dropping bikes later...

Total Test Ride Miles: 1104

rob13

10-05-10, 08:25 PM

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 08:31 PM

Well after the Ducati it was time to head for the Yamaha stand. But only to rearrange the ride until later. So to Triumph next for a bike I've wanted to ride for a little while, the Rocket III

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Or as I refer to it now as a car engine with two wheels attached.

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Its an engine full of torque. You open the throttle and it just pulls, but close it and it will just keep going. The roll off is very slow.

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It looks heavy and the briefing was to be careful of it. But once out I hardly noticed, yes it needs a bit more effort to steer it, but its really not that bad. And I didn't deck it out which surprised me. Must try harder.

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The engine doesn't rev high, only to about 6000rpm. It felt comfortable up to about 80mph, but I wouldn't like to take it further, and for some reason it didn't feel as if it wanted to. And the exhaust not is disappointing, it reminded me of an old car with a hole in its exhaust. Shame.

Total Test Ride Miles: 1115

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 08:36 PM

SH, the 848 is one of the most beautiful bikes (in any colour) and I'd love a test ride on one. I keep thinking about buying a new bike (well testing in time for the turn of the year when I'll be looking to upgrade if finance allows), but still think I should stick with upright bars. After being spoilt with the comfort of the Versys, I dont know whether I could have a sportsbike as my only ride.

Was the tank comfortable as it looks a bit of an angular shape?

The tank was fine. My legs fitted nicely under the angles and I didn't even notice them. They also didn't get in the way at all as I moved about the bikes for the corners.

As for the bars again, everything felt fine. Though if I were to buy one I would need to spend a lot more time on it to be sure.

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 08:42 PM

After the Triumph it was a quick change over to the Honda VFR1200

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Now I could make some joke about the use of stock photos here by saying the bike was to ugly it broke my camera, but no, I just managed to forget to take any.

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The ride was sporty but felt comfortable for touring. However it was a bit uninspiring really.

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The ride quality was compromised at the rear. I just didn't feel settled. I think it could be a set up issue as strange as it may sound if I had someone on the back it gave the impression it would have been nicer.

Total Test Ride Miles: 1126

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 08:56 PM

Now back to Yamaha and the XJ6 Diversion F

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It felt tiny sitting on this bike after coming off of the VFR. But for a learner bike it seamed fine, though I think if you were in the market for your first big bike there are others out there which are better, the SV for example.

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The engine was buzzy and was quick to rev up and did add to the fun. However the problem with this bike is the rear shock, this is the fastest Pogo stick I've ever ridden.

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Now for the bike dropping part. Oh dear. I started the bike and slowly rode it round to meet my Police Officer observer. Who after a quick briefing he took his bike of the center stand and sat on it. He then kicked the side stand up and started to dismount ready to puch it back. At this point I wondered what he was doing, particularly as the bike started to lean.

The bike lent to far.

It touched down.

In the officers defense it was the most graceful drop I have ever seen.

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Unfortunately I have no pictures of the event. But the officer was suitably embarrassed. To make things worse it wasn't even his bike. He then made me promise not to tell anyone (oops) and the ride continued. However news of the event had reached his fellow officers in time for our return...

Total Test Ride Miles: 1137

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 09:22 PM

Well after a suitable ribbing from his fellow officers my Police observer had a chat with me about our ride as all of these were assessed. Apparently his last ride was all done at 40mph, even in the nationals so a progressive ride was appreciated. So with his colleagues lining up more jokes we decided to go back out for another lap, this time with me on a Yamaha TDM 900

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Well the ride was nice in that I was out on a bike. But the bike was simply boring.

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There was nothing of interest to report at all. Engine had no character, the handling was bland.

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As a bike it existed. But it was easily forgettable. I certainly wouldn't buy one.

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At this point the Police officer decided he wanted a go on something and headed off to the Ducati stand. More on that to come...

Total Test Ride Miles: 1148

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 10:53 PM

Next it was time to take a wonder over to the Royal Enfield stand to take out their Woodsman

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This was a better ride then Bullet Classic 500 mainly because I didn't run out of petrol half way round. But other than that the bike did feel more powerful and the exhaust was fantastic popping on the overrun.

But the handling was generally poor as was the performance but thats when comparing it to the other bikes I'd been riding. Looking back at the other Enfield and the Scrambler I'd ridden the Woodsman was better than the Bullet, but the Scrambler was still better than both.

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Anyway it was still a fun ride and I enjoyed it. I particularly enjoyed it when halfway round I managed to catch up with a particular Policeman on a Ducati supervising someone who appeared to have a fear of corners.

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As I recognized the rider I lined up for an overtake on the straight and even managed to draw level with him as the speedo nudged 70mph. But alas I didn't have the room to make the overtake stick and was resigned to following the slower rider and their supervising Police rider round back to the show ground.

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I had chat with the Officer again at the end and he was amused by the attempted overtake...

Total Test Ride Miles: 1159

squirrel_hunter

10-05-10, 11:07 PM

Well the day was drawing to a close and it was nearly time for me to head back, but I thought I'd have a look around to see if there was anything else to ride. And sure enough there was a Triumph Sprint ST just sitting there

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So I found myself an observer and headed out on one last lap.

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All I have to say about the Sprint ST is how nice it is. All round its just simply a good bike. Comfortable, easy to ride, sporty, its got power in the engine and the brakes.

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It seams like the bike that does everything, it felt fine in the parts where I was just sitting there which made it feel ideal for touring, but when the twistys came it would turn so easily and accelerated away from them well.

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Overall this is just a really good bike. Everything it did, it did well. I wouldn't mind spending some more time on this bike...

Well that was it for the day 77 miles on 7 bikes, I did enjoy myself. Same time next year?

Total Test Ride Miles: 1170

Specialone

10-05-10, 11:30 PM

The sprint is a bike i want to like, i test rode the tiger on saturday, had it the whole day and done approx 250 miles on it, loved it.
If im honest though, i wanna like the sprint more as looks wise its better imo and faster, plan to test the sprint in the next week or so.

I need something more comfortable as im really struggling on the sv lately.

-Ralph-

11-05-10, 12:35 AM

Dont worry, you may choose the Tiger for style, practicality, ergonomics, whatever, but if its the riding experience that will make up your mind its the Sprint youll like. Its more planted and powerful again than the tiger, and it feels more solid.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-05-10, 06:34 AM

I found the Sprint to be a good bike but a bit boring and slow.

Specialone

11-05-10, 06:59 AM

I found the Sprint to be a good bike but a bit boring and slow.

Compared to ?

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-05-10, 07:21 AM

Compared to ?

Well, I didn't really compare it to anything in particular because it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the speed triple, daytona, sv or my ZX6 B1H, so I rode it with no expectations at all, and it handeled beautifully especially with a pillian, but after 80 it felt sluggish, heavy and slow, I did also take note that there was not a great deal of feedback, although it did feel very comfortable and safe.

-Ralph-

11-05-10, 09:02 AM

but after 80 it felt sluggish, heavy and slow

I think there must have been something seriously wrong with the one you rode.

There's no such thing as a slow or sluggish 1050cc 125 bhp bike. Even the SV with half that is not slow!

It's not stupid quick, but it is very effortlessly fast. In fact because it's effortless and smooth, with little in the way of wind blast, you might think it's slow until you look down at the speedo or get the NIP through the post.

It is a heavy bike, but that disappears once on the move.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=124371

yorkie_chris

11-05-10, 09:04 AM

Not a lot feels to have much feedback after B1H -6R has smashed your spine to bits first time you rode over a cigarette end!

ThEGr33k

11-05-10, 09:44 AM

Not a lot feels to have much feedback after B1H -6R has smashed your spine to bits first time you rode over a cigarette end!

lol :) Hard spring rates in those or too much dampening?

yorkie_chris

11-05-10, 10:02 AM

Both, hard spring for what linkage is on it I think. Friend of mine has tried backing off high speed comp but is still not happy with it. Not had a proper look into it though. There is a school of thought that says kayaba forks may not be helping.

Old kawasaki trait innit, they can make bikes that handle, or bikes that are comfortable. Not both at same time :-P

-Ralph-

11-05-10, 10:19 AM

Have to say though my 08/09 ZX10R rear shock is now working lovely with the high speed comp damping backed off a bit from Kawasaki's standard setting, preload about standard, but I'm heavy so that is lower than you'd expect compared to standard as well. Low speed damping and rebound just a 1/2 turn less than standard for the ZX10R.

It's a really nice ride at the back now, the only problem with that being that it really shows up the front forks. Over fast bumpy twisty roads where the SV used to buck and kick, you can't upset the rear, it just laps it up and laughs! Haha, bring it on if you think you can! The front is a lot better than standard, but the rear now shows up the front's limitations, and whilst the rear is lapping it up, the front still struggles. I'd definitely put a Gixxer front end on if I thought I was going to keep the bike long term.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-05-10, 10:20 AM

adw

11-05-10, 10:29 AM

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-05-10, 10:30 AM

I think there must have been something seriously wrong with the one you rode.

There's no such thing as a slow or sluggish 1050cc 125 bhp bike. Even the SV with half that is not slow!

It's not stupid quick, but it is very effortlessly fast. In fact because it's effortless and smooth, with little in the way of wind blast, you might think it's slow until you look down at the speedo or get the NIP through the post.

It is a heavy bike, but that disappears once on the move.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=124371

I tested a 2010 demo model from Triumph in woburn, as I said I would have expected a little more poke from the engine, it felt a little hollow.

petevtwin650

11-05-10, 10:38 AM

I must say i'd love a go on the 848! It felt very uncorfortable sat on it and the insurance penalty for any damage while test riding originally put me off. But i am tempted. I can't afford it now though so test rides can be bad ideas some times. Mind you, it's the only bike that my girlfriend would actually not complain of me having as she likes it too.:p

Ducati Roadshow here this Sunday (16th)

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.87681,-3.49361&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=11.644408,28.256836&ie=UTF8&ll=51.877683,-3.49461&spn=0.000742,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.877673,-3.494859&panoid=MF_9BjZHtTxh2-us87kCDQ&cbp=12,129.75,,1,6.5

Stu

11-05-10, 11:03 AM

re Sprint

It seams like the bike that does everything,

Overall this is just a really good bike. Everything it did, it did well
Wait til you ride it at night.

squirrel_hunter

11-05-10, 11:33 AM

Ducati Roadshow here this Sunday (16th)

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.87681,-3.49361&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=11.644408,28.256836&ie=UTF8&ll=51.877683,-3.49461&spn=0.000742,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.877673,-3.494859&panoid=MF_9BjZHtTxh2-us87kCDQ&cbp=12,129.75,,1,6.5

Tell me more...

squirrel_hunter

11-05-10, 11:34 AM

Wait til you ride it at night.

Whats wrong with the Sprint at night?

ThEGr33k

11-05-10, 11:43 AM

The reports say that the lights are 99% useless...

-Ralph-

11-05-10, 12:23 PM

A Sprint owner complained about the lights at the Waterman on Wednesday night.

mattSV

11-05-10, 12:24 PM

Sprint lights tend to be set very low from the factory, first time I rode mine on an unlit road I could not do any more than 30 mph.

I have now raised mine (and put uprated bulbs in) and they are pretty good now - will eventually put a set of HIDs on mine which apparnatly makes a huge difference...

Tim in Belgium

12-05-10, 08:48 PM

More great test rides & reviews, factor in fuel and tyre wear and you've made a killing :thumbsup:

allantheboss

12-06-10, 05:25 PM

Could you test a Y2K for me please?

Mej

01-09-10, 10:59 PM

is this still going SH??

barwel1992

02-09-10, 03:10 AM

just read the whole thread :D

suzsv650

02-09-10, 09:51 AM

just read the whole thread :D

Sado:-dd

barwel1992

02-09-10, 01:59 PM

lmao :D

Lucas

02-09-10, 03:38 PM

just read the whole thread :D

How long it took you?

squirrel_hunter

02-09-10, 05:44 PM

is this still going SH??

Sort of yes, sort of no. Can't get a seat on one of those fancy new BMW's at the moment, think that will be next year along with another trip to the Heart Of England Bike Show. I wanted to do a new "Operation" this year but job stuff put that on hold so well see what the future brings.

However I was really hoping that someone would take up the challenge of beating my 1093 miles on 33 bikes in a year...

Mej

02-09-10, 10:06 PM

When I'm old enough to be able to get all the test rides I'll give it a go.

barwel1992

03-09-10, 12:03 AM

How long it took you?

2 hours lol

allantheboss

03-09-10, 12:38 PM

When I'm old enough to be able to get all the test rides I'll give it a go.

Same...

squirrel_hunter

10-04-11, 09:30 PM

Well would you believe it, another day another test ride...

Me and BaP happened to find ourselves in Abergavenny Bus Station this morning. We were just heading there for bite to eat before pushing on to 1000 Sheep Road where in the Bus park I happened to spot the Ducati demo lorry. As we arrived one of the rides were heading out and I was spotted by a Ducati demo rider, who shouted something along the lines of "Don't let him ride anything". I must have miss herd that.

So to the lorry we went to get a ride. And hit a slight problem, my photocard license had expired and BaP didn't have his on him. So it wasn't going to happen... or was it. Had a little chat with the lovely lady organizing where I might have name dropped on of the riders and may have also used the line that BaP was a professional rider*. And my sweet talking paid off, we had our seats booked.

First out for me was the Diavel:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00221.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00219.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00216.jpg

Well I can't really understand this bike. Its got some nice features, I liked the dash, it had good power, and my do the brakes work. But the handling is odd, understeer, oversteer, and a strange riding position. I like the styling and I think Ducati will shift a few of these machines based on that alone but I don't know what market they have made this bike for.

While I was on the Diavel, BaP was on a Monster:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00223.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00224.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00226.jpg

I'll let him write his feelings on the bike but I think his smile in the last picture may give the game away.

So once we done one it would be rude to just leave it at that. I took a Streetfighter out and BaP took the Diavel I had just ridden:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00231.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00230.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110410-00229.jpg

Well I didn't like the Streetfighter last year and I don't like it this year. Not as twitchy as before so I'll put that down to tyres but the steering lock was very restrictive and that really showed up on a junction we had to negotiate.

Now for the important bit each ride was 14 miles and we completed 2 rides each making a team total of 56 miles for us on the day.

*By day he is a mild-mannered reporter, but by night he becomes Scooter Man.

10-04-11, 09:52 PM

Your comment about the diavel and not knowing what Market Ducati are going for... Nip into Ducati Uppingham and you will see, there is literally 10+ uncomfortable custom choppers worth between £30k and £90k each... All traded in for (in comparison) a comfortable, powerful, good handling chopped type bike.

L3nny

11-04-11, 03:45 AM

So how do you get so many test rides then? Are these all at main dealers? Most places I go to are really funny about test rides.

I suppose I must have a poor look about me!

Specialone

11-04-11, 05:56 AM

Must be your colour coded leathers mate ;), every place I go to, almost fall over themselves to get me on a test ride.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-04-11, 06:56 AM

When I spoke to ducat sales guy they said it's not a chopper/ cruiser but very much in a class of it's own, much like the iPad not sure where it fits for now, until everyone starts to jump on board.

When I tested the monster I loved it, but felt the power let it down just another 40bhp and it would have stopped me buying the tuono for it.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-04-11, 06:58 AM

Most dealers have a bunch of demo models but some places around me want to charge your card for £2000 before allowing anyone out.

BaP

11-04-11, 09:38 AM

I had fun.

I didn't much enjoy riding the Diavel but didn't experience any oversteer, just under.

I didn't really think the Monster lacked power, but then again I've only been riding a year and only owned the SV - I thought it pulled well.

dizzyblonde

11-04-11, 09:39 AM

That streetfighter looks like a nakid Raptor. Who was it designed by?
Bet yer bottom dollar if you ripped the steering damper off it, it would feel better!

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-04-11, 10:52 AM

11-04-11, 10:54 AM

It pulled well but at higher revs it backed off.

Defo a characteristic of the 1100 engine. Just lacks that little bit extra.

BaP

11-04-11, 12:00 PM

I had the 796 - and it was limited to 8k RMP. Thought it was a bit twitchy when I got there so looked down, and saw red lights flashing above electronic rev counter and it bouncing at 8k. So - to conclude, I don't know if it lacks power at higher revs because I couldn't get there :D

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-04-11, 12:04 PM

The one I had had all as you described BaP but wasn't bouncing on 8k it just lost power until I changed gear, lovelly riding position though hovering over the front light as such.

BaP

11-04-11, 12:12 PM

Completely agree with that. Not ridden a naked, ever, then two in a day. You sit nicely far forward with no stretching for controls etc. Brutal acceleration on a naked that's more upright than I'm used to took some getting used to but I enjoyed it.

Mine was definately bouncing - had red lights too ;) If it's not got much more to give after that then I wouldn't be too disappointed.

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-04-11, 12:20 PM

I think as a first bike they are excellent or even a second bike but when comparing it to my old ZX6 B1 and my current Tuono it doesn't stand a chance, shame really as I enjoyed riding it.

allantheboss

11-04-11, 12:54 PM

squirrel_hunter

11-04-11, 05:17 PM

So how do you get so many test rides then? Are these all at main dealers? Most places I go to are really funny about test rides.

All main dealers, all new bikes. I just turn up have a chat and then ask to take one out. They normally get you to sign something saying you won't run off with the bike or something and a few may take a credit card imprint for any damages but apart from that just get on and go.

squirrel_hunter

11-04-11, 05:21 PM

You told me you weren't riding at the mo, and next thing I know you're in Abergavenny, a place I coincidentally brought up in our last conversation. I have been dopctrined Pope of the Mother Earth American Fellowship, and I hereby sentence you to an eternity in hell

Thats a little harsh. What I said was I wouldn't be riding much as I was moving house. I've now moved. I also said I wasn't going to be on the mini for a bit and that is true. However again I won't be on a bike for a week or two as I finished yesterdays on the back of a RAC flatbed.

speedplay

11-04-11, 05:36 PM

Must be your colour coded leathers mate ;), every place I go to, almost fall over themselves to get me on a test ride.

It's 'cause you are older than most...

allantheboss

11-04-11, 06:53 PM

Thats a little harsh. What I said was I wouldn't be riding much as I was moving house. I've now moved. I also said I wasn't going to be on the mini for a bit and that is true. However again I won't be on a bike for a week or two as I finished yesterdays on the back of a RAC flatbed.

Ok no hell for you. :reaper:

squirrel_hunter

11-04-11, 08:05 PM

Much appreciated.

L3nny

11-04-11, 11:01 PM

Thanks for the fasion tips Gok!!

I'll go and speak to some dealers and see what happens. Trouble is i will probably end up buying the fekkin thing!!

Specialone

12-04-11, 06:17 AM

It's 'cause you are older than most...

And better looking and less of a hooligan.

Thanks for the fasion tips Gok!!

I'll go and speak to some dealers and see what happens. Trouble is i will probably end up buying the fekkin thing!!
That's exactly why I don't go test riding bikes, I'd end up finding a better / different bike I liked and buy that.

For a potential new bike, you need at least half a day, you can't IMO, get a proper feel for a bike in an hour or two.
I took out the tiger and the sprint for a full day, 230+ miles each.

SUPERSTARDJ01

12-04-11, 06:44 AM

I took a tuono out for 15 mins and instantly gelled with it and bought it 1hr later, now 5weeks on love it best bike in the world.

12-04-11, 06:50 AM

Paul the 6th

12-04-11, 06:57 AM

I took a tuono out for 15 mins and instantly gelled with it and bought it 1hr later, now 5weeks on love it best bike in the world.

Quite vibey from what I've heard though?

SUPERSTARDJ01

12-04-11, 12:36 PM

Quite vibey from what I've heard though?

only if you ride it wrong, ok it's never going to be as smooth as in IL4 or triple but you have to remember it's big vtwin it's in their nature to be slightly vibey.

L3nny

14-04-11, 07:57 PM

Well you were all right, went into 2 dealers today and arranged test rides, didn't have the paper bit of my licence with me so they wouldn't let me go out there and then but I have a ride on a Daytona 675 tomorrow morning and a CBR600rr and a Fireblade on Monday :D

squirrel_hunter

31-07-11, 07:44 PM

Ok, so the Operation is long over. But I just can't help myself. If its got two wheels and an engine I want to ride it. With that in mind let me set the scene...

I took a bike down to a local dealer to do a bit of work for me: drill out an exhaust stud that had snapped flush to the block. Didn't fancy doing that and I don't have a good enough drill for it anyway. I intended to drop it off and walk back, but someone suggested asking for a ride home. So I did. "All the demo bikes are out" came the reply. "Shame" I say, "I'll would take anything". At which point a grin started to grow on the sales guys face...

May I present to you the Piaggio Zip 50:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00314.jpg

Well what can I say about it? The power, the handling, the brakes? All stunning.

Stunningly bad.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00311.jpg

On power the bike accelerates eventually. Top speed, around 35 on a flat, 42 with a bit of a slope and 47 was the best I had out of it on a hill. Might have 1 or 2 more in it if the hill was steeper but it didn't feel nice doing it.

Staying with power, up hill it struggles. There is a hill near me that I use a fair bit. Its a 30 limit or 25 if you're on a Zip 50. Worse was to come though out of the town I found a bigger hill which reduced me to a staggering 12mph.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00316.jpg

Handling: Not fantastic. Swapping to a scooter from a bike needed a little to get used to it again (its been some years since I graced the seat of my Speedfight 50). There was a lot of feed back from the road, and not the good type. At one point I had to get off the bike and bounce the front, just to check that the forks moved up and down.

On to brakes now, have a look at them. They are almost radial calipers. Almost in the same way that a takeaway meal is almost food. There was no feel in them at all. And no power either. Not good.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00317.jpg

Once I settled in to the bike and started playing out on it I was transported back to my yoouf. Car drivers have no consideration for scooters. So many dangerous maneuvers I became involved in, simply because I was on the road. The most amazing was the 4x4 (thats never gone off road) that started to over take me as we approached a blind junction that had someone joining our road in the opposite direction. Once the 4x4 returned to the correct side of the road with urgency to prevent a head on collision it stayed behind for two more miles before I lost it in traffic.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00313.jpg

So what can I say thats good about it? Its awesome. Its light, very economical and dare I say practical. Oddly I like it. It needs more power, better suspension, and brakes. It fits with city life, dashing about the town on a lunch break. I had a laugh with it and I can't help thinking that I need one, just one that goes a little quicker.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110725-00312.jpg

So the big question is how many miles did I cover, and the answer is 220km or 136 miles in English money. When I put it like that, the Zip needs a more comfortable seat.

allantheboss

31-07-11, 09:18 PM

Ha!

squirrel_hunter

03-06-12, 10:01 PM

Well I'd long forgotten about this but remembered after an opportunity presented itself at yesterdays Castle Combe BikeSafe. However after digging this old thread up I noticed I had forgotten to put one on. So a little tease before the main event as it were...

After riding the Zip and having so much fun I got the call asking for it back. So disappointingly I handed the keys back, but my disappointment only stayed for a matter of seconds as the keys to a Peugeot Satelis 250 fell gently into my palm.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110731-00333.jpg

Well what can I say about this little beauty? The seat was good the ridding position was excellent and the brakes worked. Ok that is comparing it to the Zip, but in honesty they felt like any other budget bike that I've ridden, they do the job but lets face it they won't stop the world from rotating.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110731-00332.jpg

This bike was so easy to ride and the engine really set it off. As its a twist and go the power delivery was fairly linear no jumps and no real band. But where the engine of the Zip let it down with this being a bigger engine it could keep up with the flow of traffic and I did take it up to 65mph which as a town runaround is more than adequate.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110731-00331.jpg

And a town runaround this is. Fantastically practical. And the best thing about its practicality is the underseat storage, its huge. Lets compare it to say a Pointy SV650, one of these can only store 3 packets of Uncle Ben's Microwaveable Rice under the pillion seat. The Satelis can store 24 packets of Walkers Ready Salted Crisps (multi-pack size), the Satelis wins hands down with these industry recognized comparisons.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20110731-00335.jpg

So in summary, big scooters for big town fun. Oh and 78 miles.

The Idle Biker

03-06-12, 10:04 PM

Suits you Sir!

so whats the idea, pick odd bikes for a test ride? Could catch on?

squirrel_hunter

03-06-12, 10:56 PM

So I did the Castle Combe BikeSafe again, basically its a Police assessed ride followed by a track session and well worth it. Incidentally my Police observer was one of the guys I rode with doing these test rides when I was borrowing Aprilias at the Ace. Anyway there are also some stalls for some local clubs and dealers...

A mate of mine had also booked in but it was an earlier session so I was meeting him there. While lying in bed trying to remember my name and where my underwear was I get a text from said mate that jolted me into conciseness, "Holy sh!t I've just stuck my name down to take the Ducati Panigale out for a spin". My response, "Put my name down as well!".

And he did.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120602-00612.jpg

So after a little ride round the surrounding roads with one of the Met's finest, a little helping out with The Bike Experience (http://web.me.com/tskeelspiggins/Disabled_Motorcycling/Bike_Experience.html), and a few laps of the circuit it was time.

Well first impressions was it looks better in the red then the tri-color I just managed to see at the NEC in December, but styling still isn't there for me. Yes it looks nice, yes there are some nice little touches, but is no 916. A good sequel but no Terminator 2. However this is just my opinion.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120602-00608.jpg

Sitting on it in the paddock the suspension didn't sink in the slightest. Either the non-existent diet is working or its set very firmly. And once out on the road I can confirm I'm not on a diet, the suspension is rock solid. Ok it might have been in sport mode, but I doubt taking it off of this setting would have done much to help the ride quality on the road.

So what else can I say, brakes. I always talk about brakes but for a very good reason brakes are very important. And these brakes are well worth talking about. I've never felt power like that before. One finger on the leaver felt like my eye balls hit the inside of my visor. But there was no feed back from them, shame.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120602-00609.jpg

I didn't really have much time to take in the dash and controls. But the mirrors weren't great and I had to slip the clutch in the paddock to get it rolling without risking flipping it, but I think this is just something to get used to.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120602-00610.jpg

The exhaust note was loud at low revs a good growl but once you hit the power it changes to a wrrraaapppp. Sweet. Sweet but loud, and this was on standard cans, I'd be surprised if it could pass Castle Combe's own noise test.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120602-00611.jpg

Riding position was up and forward and the steering, while solid in open corners just didn't feel stable at slower speeds of say 30mph. It just didn't give me any confidence. And that was a real shame as the engine had a very nice delivery and I was really looking forward to it. The only way I can describe it was I felt like Danny Pedrosa on his GP bike, tentatively perched on top of the bike. It was like Ducati spent all this time and effort designing and producing the best bike they could then at the last minute remembered that someone actually had to ride this thing.

Overall I'm disappointed. 16 miles.

squirrel_hunter

03-06-12, 10:59 PM

so whats the idea, pick odd bikes for a test ride? Could catch on?

Originally it was to see how many miles I could clock up on test bikes in a year. But now its just any test rides I get. It doesn't bother me what bike its on, I just want to ride as many different bikes as I can. And just to tease a little, I am now waiting for a call from a dealer...

squirrel_hunter

09-06-12, 08:16 PM

Well I got that phone call. And so I finally got a ride on a bike I've been looking at for a while, the BMW S1000R.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00668.jpg

I'll tell you now this is an awesome bike. Its stunning. Every thing about it is great, the sound of the engine, the position, the brakes, the power.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00663.jpg

The riding position is a little less extreme then other Superbikes I've ridden recently the Panigale springs to mind most. Yes you are sat up high on the bike and sat forward, but not so far forward to feel to far over the front. And comfort wise it wasn't to bad, felt it in my wrists a bit but I think thats more down to not riding a bike with clipons as much as I used to.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00667.jpg

The overall ride quality was great, the bike always felt stable and the suspension though firm wasn't harsh. It even felt stable when the front wheel lifted after hitting a little bump accelerating out of a corner still lent over at 105mph (I felt like I was riding the TT at that point). I don't write that to say I'm a great rider, this bike has more capability that I ever will, but it just gave me so much confidence in the turns.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00666.jpg

The bike I had was still restricted so couldn't rev it all the way out, but I could still feel the power that it had and it was good. That said the engine had 3 mapping settings Rain, Sport, and Race. I tried but couldn't feel a difference so stuck it in Race. Apparently there is also a way to turn all the traction control and electronic wizardry, but as the dealer said why bother when BMW have invested a lot of money in it all for a reason.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00661.jpg

The bike also has a quick shifter, which takes some getting used to but is great fun. However I found it wouldn't activate in 1st and 2nd, but that could have had something to do with me hitting the rev limiter for the restriction in these gears far to early for my liking. Other that that the gear change was smooth and felt good but did sound a little clunky.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00672.jpg

Brakes were good and had plenty of feel and the mirrors were usable if a little buzzy. The underseat storage has enough room to transport nothing, so I'm not really sure why its there. And the indicator button is in the wrong place (there appears to be a lap timer/ mode select there) and didn't really move so it wasn't that easy to know if they were on without checking the lights.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Test%20Ride%20Miles/IMG-20120609-00662.jpg

So basically if you are in the market for an in line 1000cc sports bike (I miss the engine braking you get from a V on this bike) then I can't see any other choice then this bike. And as an extra little plus BMW dealers a quite nice when doing test rides as I'm sure I could have had it for longer but clocking up 77 miles and taking it out of the country was enough for me to get the measure of the bike.

DJFridge

09-06-12, 09:48 PM

I can't imagine ever having one but it does sound bl00dy good. Looks good in black, too. The white/blue is a bit common!

Bordtea

10-06-12, 03:21 AM

Absoloutely lovely bike, really want to ride one. Sounds decent from your review too!

allantheboss

11-06-12, 09:42 AM

Can you please review a Triumph Thruxton?

squirrel_hunter

12-08-12, 09:36 PM

I'm an inquisitive fella, which explains the slight limp and why I'm banded from Northumberland. So when I heard of a new NC from Honda I sat up and listened. Those of a certain age back when all that glistened was Grey will know the name NC and the promise of a new one could not be missed. However this NC has nothing to do with that family tree, shame.

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The NC700 is available in 3 styles the D Scooter, the S Naked (Hornet-like), and the X Adventure Tourer style that I tried.

All three share the same low reving engine mated to a different frame. And the engine is what I was interested in. And I'll be honest its odd. The red line comes in very quickly and if you're not careful you will find the rev limit very easily and with no warning. Which when you are overtaking a car isn't what you'd like to find when on the opposite side of the road.

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But once you get used to it and remember to change up as soon as you reach the next gear you'll be fine. Its not really a sporty machine and is being sold to the commuter market, apparently its quite economical on the motorway and yes it can go over 100mph with a long enough run and is stable at that speed. But if you want to have a little fun on the bike and take the long route home, it will disappoint.

Other than that the suspension is budget as are the brakes. They have no feel and there isn't even a span adjuster on the lever. The mirrors are great, big and clear and the instrumentation is nice enough with the electronic fuel guage.

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The petrol tank is under the seat so that gives enough room under the fake tank for a full face helmet. But filling up the cap feels cheap and the seat prop was an unnecessary addition.

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Other than that theres not really much more to add. Odd engined budget bike that makes avoiding the rev limiter a challenge. 28 Miles.

squirrel_hunter

12-08-12, 09:37 PM

So after riding the Honda NC700X what else can I ride? Well the Honda NC700X of course.

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No its not deja vu, there is a difference other than the color. This one is the automatic. So ignoring that the brakes and suspension and everything else is the same as the manual one I'll talk about the automatic system.

I have to say it is the best automatic system I've ever tried. There is a manual over ride that gives you control on the handlebar buttons and as it is a real gearbox and not rollers as on a scooter you get the clunk you'd find when you change gear on a manual. Also if you do override the auto either by selecting auto or by clicking a gear it stays in manual mode until you tell it to go back into automatic.

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Now the automatic settings, there are two the first setting is D and this is the low reving automatic sedate power limiting basic drive. Boring. So after a couple of miles on that I switched to the S mode. And the difference was felt.

The S setting holds on to the revs right until the red line and without hitting the limiter. It does make the bike move and does make overtaking far easier that even with the manual. It even surprised me when launching from the line, I nearly fell off the back of the bike, nice. This automatic setting turns the bike into a ridable machine and the ability to select manually and not be overruled is quite nice.

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However, I don't like the manual system and can also be a little dangerous. Let me explain, remember that I said its a real gear box, well that means its a real clutch. When the bike wants to shift it activates the clutch and then engages the gear before releasing the clutch allowing drive. It only takes a second but it is noticeable. And its really noticeable in the corners. Let me explain, you approach a corner say a big roundabout, you brake for the corner picking an entry speed, the bike might even downshift. You turn in, apply a little positive throttle, you reach the apex, straightening up and powering on for the exit.

And there is where the problem is. With the throttle on no matter how little due to the short rev range of the bike the automatic transmission kicks in and selects a higher gear. And in doing so the clutch cuts drive, this results in the bike dipping in, which when you are already leaning in to suddenly have more lean and basically oversteer is not fun. If you are at full lean to suddenly be sent over further isn't the safest thing I can think of. That is my only complaint on the automatic gear box.

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Oh and I almost forgot, it has a hand brake on the left switchgear, which works wonders to keep the bike from moving and rolling back. But to take it off I found it required two hands to press the button and move the leaver. Which is interesting if you've parked on a hill and need to keep your foot on the rear brake at the same time...

Automatics the future of biking? Not yet. 28 miles.

The Idle Biker

13-08-12, 09:07 PM

Your write deserves a more considered response, but all I can think of is asking how fast is it, compared to say an SV650?

Not that I'm going to but one, but I actually quite like the styling.

squirrel_hunter

13-08-12, 11:06 PM

but all I can think of is asking how fast is it, compared to say an SV650?

The SV is faster. Far more power and torque according to my portable dyno. The delivery of the power is better in my opinion, you can feel it building and then kicking in fast. But the NC is linear, no curve. Very different engine.

As for top speed I only took it up to around an indicated 110mph and I don't think it had much more in it compared to a SV which can see around 140mph on the clocks.

As for handling again the SV is better. Yes they are both on budget suspension, but the SV is slightly better. The roads I tested it on I've ridden countless times and I've never bounced out of the seat of my SV on them.

And finally brakes, again the SV is better. More feel to them then the NC had. But the SV is a different bike more sporty then the NC its really the wrong comparison. But then I'm not sure what I could really compare this bike to?