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hindle8907
18-05-09, 01:43 PM
Will i be ok on this bike
hi Guys,
I have just passed my Resticted 33BHP licence.
I was going to get the NINJA 250r but it just went up in price by nearly 500-600 pounds.
My pervious bike was a Hyosung xrx 125 Enduro type and i ridden this for 2 years. i have never been on a bike over a 125cc
but because of the price increase of the 250r i have been looking at the SV650
i am 6"2 and i went to the dealers the other day and sat on the SV650 and didnt think it was to heavy but what about the power will this bike pull my arms off or will i be ok if i take it easy ?? i am quite confident driver but i dont want to buy a bike im not going to be able to drive...
But i do really really like this bike with all the Farings
cheers guys any advice would be appreciated
you'll be fine. It only goes fast if you twist the throttle too far. So don't :p
As long as you can reach the ground ok, I can't think of any other reason why it'd bite you... the power delivery is predictable and there's plenty of torque, so you can limit yourself (if you need to) just by riding it at lower revs.
plowsie
18-05-09, 01:54 PM
Had the same problem as you mate, was actually worried about the power. It is nothing to fear and as Ophic says, the throttle does return.
I actually used to get off and push my bike round one specific junction as it was very fast traffic to pull into and was a steep uphill junction onto a level main road. V,v difficult at first and nerve racking.
Your 6"2', I'm maybe a little shorter, I am fine size wise with the weight and handling. Just take it steady.
Welcome to the site by the way.
dizzyblonde
18-05-09, 01:54 PM
your arms won't get pulled off unless you ask the bike to do it :-)
The SV is a very forgiving bike for someones first big bike, it will let you make mistakes, and pull you out of them, but as with all bikes, sometimes it won't.
SoulKiss
18-05-09, 01:56 PM
Will i be ok on this bike
hi Guys,
I have just passed my Resticted 33BHP licence.
I was going to get the NINJA 250r but it just went up in price by nearly 500-600 pounds.
My pervious bike was a Hyosung xrx 125 Enduro type and i ridden this for 2 years. i have never been on a bike over a 125cc
but because of the price increase of the 250r i have been looking at the SV650
i am 6"2 and i went to the dealers the other day and sat on the SV650 and didnt think it was to heavy but what about the power will this bike pull my arms off or will i be ok if i take it easy ?? i am quite confident driver but i dont want to buy a bike im not going to be able to drive...
But i do really really like this bike with all the Farings
cheers guys any advice would be appreciated
Brilliant 1st bike - I only did 3 weeks on 125's so that doesnt count - besides I bought my SV BEFORE my CG125 :)
Best advice is to get the lowers and then take them odd and store them - they are expensive to repair IF you drop the bike, but thats just me being cautious.
Alternatively take them off and you will get about £300 minimum for them on ebay.....
hindle8907
18-05-09, 02:00 PM
thanks for the advice guys think i am just going to go for it when i find the right one at the right price .... is it ok to post adverts on here from like the biketrader website so i can get some advice from you guys who own this bike ?
plowsie
18-05-09, 02:03 PM
Not necessarily gonna be on this site because they have an SV.
I reccomend you add your location (town) where you are so that people may even make an offer to come and look a bike over with you. By all means, post links up, people will be willing to give you advice. There may even be one or two on the for sale section, if you don't mind stating, post your rough budget and people may be able to help you out.
Stu
SoulKiss
18-05-09, 02:04 PM
thanks for the advice guys think i am just going to go for it when i find the right one at the right price .... is it ok to post adverts on here from like the biketrader website so i can get some advice from you guys who own this bike ?
This will need a mod I think - Fizzwheel will probably be along soon enough and I suspect he will say yes.
Just post links rather than full ads, and maybe collect 5 at a time to post at once and I cant see anyone complaining.
Also look in the For Sale section on here - usually something being sold.
fizzwheel
18-05-09, 02:07 PM
is it ok to post adverts on here from like the biketrader website so i can get some advice from you guys who own this bike ?
Yes thats fine. You'll get plenty of help that way, but its no substitue for looking at the bike in the flesh as it were.
As Plowsie says, fill in a bit more info in your profile and I am sure somebody local will go along with you to give a 2nd opinion on what your looking at.
I would not worry about the power of the SV. I went straight from only 8 months on a 125 to my SV. Although it feels immense compared to a 125 you'll soon know where to take it easy. Just don't twist the throttle more than you feel comfortable.
Sure you'll be fine, especially with your two years on a 125. Welcome to the org as well BTW. :grin:
dizzyblonde
18-05-09, 02:19 PM
If its any consolation I thought my SV was mahhhhhhooosive when I first got it. Now everyone that looks at it says 'Isn't it big?' I'm so used to it, I think its tiny now. Still heavy though for weak and feeble me, but then they all are when they fall on top of you :-(
Alpinestarhero
18-05-09, 02:22 PM
Dont worry about moving onto such a bigger bike - I went from a pugeot speedfight 100 to a restricted SV. You'll be fine, since you've got eperince on a real motorcycle :D just take it easy until your used to it. A restricted SV is a pussy-cat to ride, but its a fun pussy-cat! Concentrate on learning cornering, and dont bother revving it about 7500 rpm because the power tails off rapidly. You're gonna be fine...I was worried too, but it turned out alright. A restricted SV is still good for 90 mph cruising with luggage and pillion all day. Plan yur overtaking carefully - some people compain restricted bikes are unsafe because you ant overtake easily, but you just need to plan ahead
hindle8907
18-05-09, 02:34 PM
thanks all im in work at the moment when i get home ill update my profile and post some more info with my budget and stuff thanks for the advice and the gr8 welcome!!
SoulKiss
18-05-09, 02:35 PM
thanks all im in work at the moment when i get home ill update my profile and post some more info with my budget and stuff thanks for the welcome everyone !
Just to tide us through - where are you based ?
hindle8907
18-05-09, 02:49 PM
Salford / Manchester speak soon
fizzwheel
18-05-09, 02:54 PM
thanks all im in work at the moment when i get home ill update my profile and post some more info with my budget and stuff thanks for the advice and the gr8 welcome!!
No worries, best piece of advice I was given with regard to buying a motor vehicle was to make sure I looked at plenty and not to buy the first one I looked at.
dizzyblonde
18-05-09, 03:07 PM
Salford / Manchester speak soon
aha .. the pennine Massive is your local loony section:smt081 Theres rather a lot of rabble from over your side of the hill, only kidding, welcome in......you'll never want to leave;)
hindle8907
18-05-09, 06:26 PM
hi again guys ...
I have 4500 pounds coming in the next few weeks
900-1000 of that is for insurance ..... i have had some quoats and thats around the figure im getting as i have a claim for Total Loss by theft as my XRX was stolen a few months back and i also have 3 points for Speeding :( ....
150-200 pound on some Decent Locks/Chains/Ect...
so that leaves around 3300 for a SV650 but i also need it resticting in with the price do you think most dealers will do this for free to get a sale ??
so
1000 on insurance
3300 on SV650
and 200 on Locks/Chains
Thanks Guys !
Old Git
18-05-09, 06:37 PM
hindle8907, you will have got alot more than most for your 1st bike with +£3K.
Did my test Fe'09 4 days & in for the test, we are on a restricted SVS, like the org says, take it easy & learn at a reasonable pace, slowly slowly catche monkey.
Think that you can easy pick up a good bike from 2001 onwards & not have to spend all your loot. God forbid that you drop it while learning, better to drop a £1700 bike & have money for repairs than a £3K bike & be off the road.
We all want shiny & new, but you can get shiny & nearly new also.
I would say go for something lower in the price range & get yourself loads of fuel to learn with, also you have not left anything for riding gear, need to get good jacket, trousers, boots etc., always buy the best you can, road rash can be painful at any speed let alone the speeds you can achieve with the SV.
Good luck & stay safe.
hindle8907
18-05-09, 06:45 PM
2006 06 Reg SUZUKI SV SK6 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200913331226474&distance=6&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2006&vehicleRegLetter=06)This is the One i went and sat on the other day looked brand new.
2007 07 Reg SUZUKI SV SV650 S 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200904327403535&distance=30&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2007&vehicleRegLetter=07) This one
2005 55 Reg SUZUKI SV 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200910330078242&distance=41&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2005&vehicleRegLetter=55) this one
Old Git
18-05-09, 06:49 PM
Have a look in the for sale section on here also, you will know where the bike is from & how its been looked after then.
P.S. I don't have a bike to sell.
hindle8907
18-05-09, 06:50 PM
i have spent over 500 on riding gear got hein gericke gear and alpinestar Boots and gloves . i want to buy a bike that wont need anything doing to it for a long time. cheers guys
jamesterror
18-05-09, 07:05 PM
I passed my A2 license in March, got a bike Saturday (SV650 K4 Naked) and love it. Its restricted but for my first bike so not had the riding experience you have, but I was sketchy about riding a "big bike", had a blast on my mates ZX636 and it quickly changed my mind.
Just take your time to get use to the power + weight is what I've been doing with the dry weather which has been hardly about!
hindle8907
18-05-09, 07:06 PM
i dont like the curvy one that much i like the pointy one more :)
( for info )
and i would like full fairing
yorkie_chris
18-05-09, 07:43 PM
Will i be ok on this bike
hi Guys,
I have just passed my Resticted 33BHP licence.
I was going to get the NINJA 250r but it just went up in price by nearly 500-600 pounds.
My pervious bike was a Hyosung xrx 125 Enduro type and i ridden this for 2 years. i have never been on a bike over a 125cc
but because of the price increase of the 250r i have been looking at the SV650
i am 6"2 and i went to the dealers the other day and sat on the SV650 and didnt think it was to heavy but what about the power will this bike pull my arms off or will i be ok if i take it easy ?? i am quite confident driver but i dont want to buy a bike im not going to be able to drive...
But i do really really like this bike with all the Farings
cheers guys any advice would be appreciated
33bhp is not scary at all. Stock SV is perfectly manageable for a newbie.
hindle8907
18-05-09, 07:44 PM
2007 07 Reg SUZUKI SV SV650 S 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200904327403535&distance=30&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2007&vehicleRegLetter=07) I think i might go view this one looks in good nic and not a bad price what you guys think ?
I'd say keep looking too many miles for price. Good dealer though.
Biker Biggles
18-05-09, 08:18 PM
Go and look at it if its local to you.Its two years old so out of warranty but you need to ask if its got a full service history.It should have had one at 600 miles and then one every 4000 mile.It should also have had a major one at around 16000 to check the valve clearances.Then consider condition of chain and sprocks(£130)tyres (£200)Brake pads (£50) and knock any of that off the price.After all that they will probably give it to you just to get rid of you.
And yes an SV on 33BHP will not be a handfull at all.Great first bike.
redshift
18-05-09, 08:38 PM
The SV is a perfect first bike. I went from never having ridden before through DAS to getting an unrestricted pointy in three weeks. I can't say that I've not had the odd moment or two on it, but that was down to me being a nugget rather than the bike biting me. Buy with confidence!
Thingus
18-05-09, 10:31 PM
I'd say keep looking too many miles for price. Good dealer though.
I'd say 2.6 is nice for an 07 model O.O
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Anyway man up (jk), 6 foot 2... you'll be fine on the SV. Keep weight forward ie, don't lean back :p and you'll be fine.
To be honest if i'd found this place before i found a dealer, i would've bought privately from here, not a dealer, but you get the warranty and things so good luck whatever you do. :smt071
jamesterror
18-05-09, 10:46 PM
I'd say 2.6 is nice for an 07 model O.O
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Anyway man up (jk), 6 foot 2... you'll be fine on the SV. Keep weight forward ie, don't lean back :p and you'll be fine.
To be honest if i'd found this place before i found a dealer, i would've bought privately from here, not a dealer, but you get the warranty and things so good luck whatever you do. :smt071
I saw an 07 with 4k miles for £3100 in a local dealer, remus slip on can only mod
Thingus
18-05-09, 10:57 PM
I'm not gonna bring up the price i paid for my standard (bar Scorpion can) 2000 W Curvy S. :-$
plowsie
19-05-09, 07:57 AM
Also Hindle, general consensus is that modifications will not add to the price of a bike. So don't get caught with that mate.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:10 PM
hi guys how do i tell which is a carbed version ?
i have been told this is the one to go for if resticted ? is this True ?
fizzwheel
19-05-09, 01:17 PM
hi guys how do i tell which is a carbed version ?
Nice and simple, if the Bike was manufactured between 1999 - 2002 it will be on Carbs, the orginal first generation "curvey" shaped SV is carbs.
Any bike manufacturered after 2003 will be fuel injection. The 2nd generation SV with "pointy" plastics, and the twin LED rear brake lights is FI.
i have been told this is the one to go for if resticted ? is this True ?
IMHO No its not.
Carb bikes restrict OK, as do the later style Fuel Injection bikes also restrict OK, but you would be wise to go down the ECU restriction route ( swapping the bikes electronic brain ) rather than the F.I. Internationl mechanical restriction route on a 2003 onwards bike.
HTH
they look different. Anything K3 onwards is a pointy, and these are injected. Anything previous is a curvy, and these are carbed. The biggest difference is the frame - curvies have round tubed frames and pointies have squarish cast box-section frames (is that description right?)
Pointies are best restricted by changing the ECU. There's another method (FI restriction kit) but its not very good, by all accounts.
Curvies are restricted in the normal way for carbed bikes - washers in the carbs, restricting the air flow. This is apparently fine.
So both bikes can be restricted easily - i'd say the pointy is easier to do, but the cost of the restricted ECU might be greater than the kit for a curvy.
Edit: fizz beat me... again
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:22 PM
2006 06 Reg SUZUKI SV SK6 650cc
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200913331226474&distance=6&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2006&vehicleRegLetter=06
So the above is a IF SV ?
Link above
It's a pointy, so injected.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:31 PM
when i went to view this i asked the Shop whats involved in resticting the Bike and he said they put washers in the carb ?? :S
Tell them it doesn't have carbs and see how they respond. They'll probably be referring to the throttle bodies, and you can restrict pointies this way, but people on here have had problems with this - makes it run very rich and u get bad fuel economy.
The better way to restrict a pointy is to change the ECU.
plowsie
19-05-09, 01:35 PM
when i went to view this i asked the Shop whats involved in resticting the Bike and he said they put washers in the carb ?? :S
In the Curveys, that is one of the ways to restrict the bike. However, pointies have a restricted ECU inserted instead of the original one. Normally. There are one or two other ways.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:40 PM
So when i buy a pointy i must only accept ECU restiction .... no any other type otherwise i may have problems...
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:43 PM
i will be commuting to work as well 30 miles a day so cant be having bad fuel economy
So when i buy a pointy i must only accept ECU restiction .... no any other type otherwise i may have problems...
That is the stance I would take if I was in your position. If they do change the ECU, make sure they give you the original one too.
plowsie
19-05-09, 01:48 PM
So when i buy a pointy i must only accept ECU restiction .... no any other type otherwise i may have problems...
Not necessarily mate, this is advice from some of the pointy restricted riders, say they get crap fuel economy, which is to be expected, your taking the guts out of a bike by stealing half its power...
hindle8907
19-05-09, 01:49 PM
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=06 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200913331226474&distance=6&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2006&vehicleRegLetter=06)
jsut rang them up and spoke to the engineer he said he will ring me back he is just going to find out if its ECU do u think the above bike is worth it if i can get the ECU for free and free fitting ?
hindle8907
19-05-09, 03:20 PM
just got a call back from the shop he said he has called there suppilers of the resticting kits and its not an ECU.
Its a Throttle restictor and a butterfly sumet or other ..... ?? anyone know what hes on about lol
FlyinCustard
19-05-09, 03:24 PM
I have my Curvy for 4/5weeks now and i was worried about the weight and power at first as I like you came from a featherweight 125 enduro style bike. The 1st things i noticed when i 1st got on it wasn't the weight it was the low bars and high pegs compared to my previous bike.
O and the speed.... not too much tho, only as much as you ask from it
SoulKiss
19-05-09, 03:25 PM
just got a call back from the shop he said he has called there suppilers of the resticting kits and its not an ECU.
Its a Throttle restictor and a butterfly sumet or other ..... ?? anyone know what hes on about lol
Sounds like the non-ECU method that is rubbish - tell him to ring Suzuki and get them to quote for an ECU - although I think that may be £300........
plowsie
19-05-09, 03:26 PM
just got a call back from the shop he said he has called there suppilers of the resticting kits and its not an ECU.
Its a Throttle restictor and a butterfly sumet or other ..... ?? anyone know what hes on about lol
Hmm, I remember somebody saying about the throttle itself been restricited before on a pointy but I don't know about them really. Could be the throttle bodies.
just got a call back from the shop he said he has called there suppilers of the resticting kits and its not an ECU.
Its a Throttle restictor and a butterfly sumet or other ..... ?? anyone know what hes on about lol
Consists of a throttle stop, and two 'buttery fly' washers in the air box.
If you can't get a hold of a ECU, I can sell you the restrictor kit with the throttle stop and washers for the airbox for £20+ p&p, theyre silly money new, and you're only paying for a certificate which has no legal standing and is not needed.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 03:38 PM
Consists of a throttle stop, and two 'buttery fly' washers in the air box.
If you can't get a hold of a ECU, I can sell you the restrictor kit with the throttle stop and washers for the airbox for £20+ p&p, theyre silly money new, and you're only paying for a certificate which has no legal standing and is not needed.
Yeah he said its 230 inc VAT ?
I though that certificate was what i needed to produce to the insurance to get insured and to the police if i got a producer ?
and how did you find this method of restricting ? may i ask
The certificate has NO legal standing, it has nothing to do with the DVLA or police.
FI International produce the kits and certificate.
Thats cheaper than most places charge, £230+ vat, + labour etc
I didn't mind it, I changed to a ECU restriction a few months ago.
Theres no difference performance-wise, no difference acceleration wise, 2mph top speed difference, but thats not here or inbetween, the SV hardly ever reaches its restricted top speed. The ECU may give better MPG, but I have also changed bikes, so that might have been the difference.
And the fact when I had the throttle stop + washers, I used to loon around everywhere, full throttle *on my private track*.
Nowadays, not so much.
I noticed no change in the running of the bike, no problems so far with either restriction method.
Hope that helps, and keep my offer in mind, David.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 03:48 PM
Ok so say i get the Kit from you ....
Buy a bike .....
And get a local garage to fit the kit .....
I will be ok on my 33bhp restriction ?
Will you be ok in what sense?
Aye get a local garage to fit in, or if you're that way mechanically minded, ask the org and follow the instructions the give you.
Thats the kit below.
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo306/_saoralba_/DSCF0228.jpg
Spiderman
19-05-09, 04:14 PM
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=06 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200913331226474&distance=6&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2006&vehicleRegLetter=06)
do u think the above bike is worth it
Well i paid 2350 for this
<=== with a lot less mileage than the one you're looking at. But then again i did buy privately so its always gonna be a bit better price.
Make sure you get a decent warranty no matter what dealer you end up buy a bike from tho. And haggle like hell, especially in this current economic climate. I'm sure some shops would happily break even just to get rid of some stock.
I havnt read through all the pages.
If i was in your position, i would buy a bike derestricted and just get a restrictor separately for about £50 then get the dealer to fit it, or fit it yourself.
£3300 on your first 'big' bike? Lucky bugger. Some of the links you posted seem quite good, but dont try to spend all of it. £3300 isnt a target - if you can find something nice for £2400 then go for it and spend the rest on extras and petrol.
Good luck with your search
yorkie_chris
19-05-09, 04:55 PM
As far as I'm aware the 33bhp "certificate" is not part of the producer documentation.
I paid £2600 for a tidy(ish) K5, 06plate, 4500 fully faired red pointy.
Just to try and put it in prespective.
davepreston
19-05-09, 05:10 PM
just to clarify no certificate is needed but any bike insured as res 33bhp upon an accident will be inspected by an engineer if found to be unristricted at that point insurance is null and void also police have the right (but never heard of it done EVER!) to send it to there team for legal inspection at any time
hindle8907
19-05-09, 06:22 PM
so if i get a bike and fit the kit my self for get a local garage to do it i will be fine but i wont get a certificate so.... then if i was in an acident or somthing the bike would tested and if the rectiction was not fitted correctly and the bike outputed more power then 33bhp the insurance may not pay me out because i dont have a certificate with a signiture on it and i would have no case to fight because i would have no one to blame my self.
yorkie_chris
19-05-09, 06:23 PM
You can't really fit one wrong. If you do it wrong it will make less than 33bhp not more.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 06:27 PM
so is it perfectly leagal to ride a restricted bike without the certificate as long is the bike is not over 33bhp
yorkie_chris
19-05-09, 06:29 PM
That's what the law says.
Amusingly, FI international will sell you a restrictor kit for a bike that puts <33bhp onto the back wheel.
Amusingly, FI international will sell you a restrictor kit for a bike that puts <33bhp onto the back wheel.
Just about you're favourite all time company eh? :hackedoff:
hindle8907
19-05-09, 06:55 PM
cheeky sods lol .....kool so now thats cleared up ......
how far does the throttle stop...stop you going back ....
i think i would rather have an ECU fitted so i can still rev high
Giffer2 is, or was selling a restricted pointy ECU for £70. Here: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=132034
They occasionally pop up in the For Sale section on this site for around the £45 mark too! I know Ruth had one she was getting rid of around that price in the past.
Buy a pointy without restriction, add £100 tops for a 2nd hand restricted ECU. Get the bike, lift the rider seat, disconnect the ECU, and plug in the new one. Job jobbed.
yorkie_chris
19-05-09, 06:58 PM
cheeky sods lol .....kool so now thats cleared up ......
how far does the throttle stop...stop you going back ....
i think i would rather have an ECU fitted so i can still rev high
You can still rev high with either. But I would recommend ECU.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 07:09 PM
will any pointy ECU fit on any pointy .... cheers....
Dave20046
19-05-09, 07:14 PM
**** the throttle stop. Ask anyone that's had a fiddled gracie's . Feels crap.
(no offence, tis a lovely bike otherwise)
will any pointy ECU fit on any pointy .... cheers....
No. IIRC K4-K6 (maybe K7) are compatible with each other.
K3 isn't compatible with anything else. K8+ (I'm not sure if the K7's have this too...) have a new air sensor in the exhaust link pipe, and dual TPS's, therefore the ECU isn't compatible with previous years.
Give me half an hour or so to finish my pizza & I'll double check the above (I'll edit this post accordingly).
EDIT: OK, I've finished my pizza, and looked through the microfische's. saoralba below is technically correct, but missing a little difference. Model numbers below:
K3, K4, K5 (European/Canadian), K6 (European/Canadian) have 32920-17G20. The ECU's on these models are interchangable.
K5 (Californian) and K6 (Californian) have 32920-17G40. This is due to random emissions laws in California.
K7's get 32920-17GD0 across the board.
K8 (European/Canadian) has 32920-17GC0, whereas the Californian version has a K7 ECU.
I couldn't find a microfische for K9's. A restricted ECU, I suspect is simply the correct year/location ECU loaded with a different map by Suzuki.
I took a un identified 33 bhp restrictor, put it in my K3, and its now in my K5.
No problems so far.
I presumed everything before the lamba(or whatever it is) sensor was interchangable.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 07:53 PM
cheers thanks alot guys .... i will carry on looking for a bike and should have my money in the next week or so ....... hope fully ill be the owner of a SV650 In No Time !!!!!!! Weeeheeyyy !
hindle8907
19-05-09, 08:17 PM
2008 09 Reg SUZUKI SV SV650SK7 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-122-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200751300849240&distance=156&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2008&vehicleRegLetter=09)
Brand new for only 3800!!
I wouldnt personally ever buy new. You make such a loss with its age. Besides, there will be no money left for a can
I wouldnt personally ever buy new. You make such a loss with its age. Besides, there will be no money left for a can
£3600 for 2nd hand or £3800 for brand new - i know which one i'd go for. Stuff the can i'll fit it later.
yorkie_chris
19-05-09, 08:35 PM
I wouldn't pay £3600 for second hand thats nuts.
I think anything above £3000 is a weird price to pay because there isnt a huge step up to the new price. Im going to spend between £2500 - £3000 when i get mine.
jamesterror
19-05-09, 08:51 PM
For your first bike I'd personally cut your budget and save the rest for a better bike when your off the restrictor.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 08:54 PM
i dont mind spending the money i just want a good condition bike thats not going to need much doing to it only services .....
For your first bike I'd personally cut your budget and save the rest for a better bike when your off the restrictor.
Gotta agree with this, in fact. Get something 2nd hand and cheaper and gain some experience on it, keeping some of the budget stashed just in case the worst happens.
I bought my bike new, unrestricted, had been an experienced rider on 125s but had not ridden for a good few years. I dropped it with 13 miles on the clock. It went back to the dealers and had everything replaced, costing my insurers £1000, me the excess of £300 and an increase in premium the next year.
If it had been a bit older, i would have painted the scratches, replaced the indicators and gear lever and carried on.
jamesterror
19-05-09, 08:58 PM
i dont mind spending the money i just want a good condition bike thats not going to need much doing to it only services .....
yeh i know what you mean, i could have spent more than 2k just decided that if you wait long enough a bargin will come along. the bike i bought off charris off here for the condition it was in, hadn't been road in winter has been hard to fault.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:02 PM
the thing is i wont beable to keep the rest of the money stashed i have 2 choices spend it all on a bike or pay other debts off .... i cant leave money lay about lol ...... it will go bit by bit untill i endup with zero !
ill look for the best bargin i can :)
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:03 PM
2005 SUZUKI SV650s 650cc (trade) (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/SUZUKI+SV/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-122-239-4294961166-4294967208/advert.action?R=200838318839940&distance=174&postcode=m309hd&channel=BIKES&make=SUZUKI&model=SV&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2005&vehicleRegLetter=) what about this one guys
Overpriced.
I bought a K5 4.5K miles for £2600
Sold my K3, 13.5K miles for £2000
Just trying to put things in perspective.
Dave20046
19-05-09, 09:07 PM
I wouldn't pay £3600 for second hand thats nuts.
That's like 2004 gsxr moneys IIRC
mmm anyone want to give me £3600? (and £10k for the insurance:rolleyes:)
Although I'll miss the cheap servicing/dropping I get with my bike.
jamesterror
19-05-09, 09:16 PM
Hindle how old are you? .. my bad if you've stated elseware, regards to insurance etc, my excess is credit crunch so you have to becareful of that also.
Are you able to travel a distance to view? Buying private maybe beneficial for you to save some dollar, get more for your crash, cover costs of a dealer restricting if thats what you want.
eBay is actually a good place to look for bikes IMO, it tells you distance just like autotrader, get the odd bargin every so often. Check item number: 220403538911
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:19 PM
its got a can and fairings lol i think i will just stop looking untill i get my money and look because its just torment at the minute haha cheers
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:20 PM
Hindle how old are you? .. my bad if you've stated elseware, regards to insurance etc, my excess is credit crunch so you have to becareful of that also.
Are you able to travel a distance to view? Buying private maybe beneficial for you to save some dollar, get more for your crash, cover costs of a dealer restricting if thats what you want.
eBay is actually a good place to look for bikes IMO, it tells you distance just like autotrader, get the odd bargin every so often. Check item number: 220403538911
Im 20 i had a quoat now for 830 FPFT
i have one convtion and one claim for total loss via theft
and i can travel so far but dont want to ride the bike all the way back ....
want to get used to the bike in an area i know the roads if you get me
jamesterror
19-05-09, 09:26 PM
Im 20 i had a quoat now for 830 FPFT
i have one convtion and one claim for total loss via theft
and i can travel so far but dont want to ride the bike all the way back ....
want to get used to the bike in an area i know the roads if you get me
Totally understand you, went through the same thing at the weekend mate, got my first big bike. Took a big gamble, slapped the restrictor in, windy, rain, on a motorway for a junction (first time), A road single & dual carriage way the rest.
Only "big bike" I'd previously rode was a ZX636 to get to use power and that was just up to 30 on a straight road.
I'm 17, and my insurance is £566 TPFT, no NCB, no claims etc, Legal Cover, Leather Cover :rolleyes: Just £650 excess...... cryy.
and i can travel so far but dont want to ride the bike all the way back ....
want to get used to the bike in an area i know the roads if you get me
One of the lads in work bought a CBR125 not too long ago from Runcorn, but we're down on Anglesey. He'd only passed his CBT, so couldn't ride on motorways.
As a result, he looked at getting a man in a van to pick up the bike & bring it back. That came to £150.
So he paid me £80. I got a train from the local station to Runcorn, walked half a mile, and rode the bike back to him. I then pocketed the money (minus train & fuel costs) as beer tokens.
I'm sure there's going to be someone from the .Org able to do similar for you. Hell, I'd do it myself, but would need to work out the train costs involved first.
Don't let distance put you off your perfect bike! :thumbsup:
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:35 PM
not bad seeming your age ! .... lol my bike was stolen so thats whats killed me ....
that one on ebay looks a nice bike just make an offer of 2200 just to see what happens lol
Item Number 220403538911
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:39 PM
One of the lads in work bought a CBR125 not too long ago from Runcorn, but we're down on Anglesey. He'd only passed his CBT, so couldn't ride on motorways.
As a result, he looked at getting a man in a van to pick up the bike & bring it back. That came to £150.
So he paid me £80. I got a train from the local station to Runcorn, walked half a mile, and rode the bike back to him. I then pocketed the money (minus train & fuel costs) as beer tokens.
I'm sure there's going to be someone from the .Org able to do similar for you. Hell, I'd do it myself, but would need to work out the train costs involved first.
Don't let distance put you off your perfect bike! :thumbsup:
that sounds really kind but lol what would happen if some had an acident/crash on my bike before i even got to see it !! lol
that sounds really kind but lol what would happen if some had an acident/crash on my bike before i even got to see it !! lol
As would of happened if anything happened on the CBR125. I was fully covered by insurance, so it'd be treated as any other claim.
If you do get anyone else to ride your bike, just make sure they do so legally. This means TPO cover minimum.
jamesterror
19-05-09, 09:46 PM
not bad seeming your age ! .... lol my bike was stolen so thats whats killed me ....
that one on ebay looks a nice bike just make an offer of 2200 just to see what happens lol
Item Number 220403538911
£2200 a bit low, but worth a pop really.
I'd have said try for £2500 or something, but keep looking as at points where I knew I couldn't get a bike I still looked to judge price I'd pay.
hindle8907
19-05-09, 09:55 PM
talk soon guys thanks for alll the advice
gettin2dizzy
19-05-09, 09:58 PM
the thing is i wont beable to keep the rest of the money stashed i have 2 choices spend it all on a bike or pay other debts off .... i cant leave money lay about lol ...... it will go bit by bit untill i endup with zero !
ill look for the best bargin i can :)
Stiff it in a 12 month savings account. That way you're not allowed access, and it'll have earnt you a bit of cash in the process :)
Spiderman
19-05-09, 11:25 PM
Nah dont trust then friggin bankers...we all know what they're like ;)
Why not spend the extra money on the bike or bike gear? Get some decent leathers or boots and gloves, that kind of thing?
or do you have all that already budgeted for? Vos it aint cheap.
I'd buy a new one if I could afford it, as I don't sell bikes on - I commute the knackers out of them and buy another one afterwards, so resale values don't come into my world!
Just saw 1 mile K8 Sv650s on biketrader for 3999 - now that's tempting!
hindle8907
20-05-09, 06:54 AM
i anit got leathers but i spent over 400 on hein gericke fabrics and 200 on my boots and gloves..... a few months back will i be ok with this kind of gear on the SV
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