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RatchetJob
29-06-09, 04:14 PM
.-.. --- .-..
now now, mind your .--. / .- -. -.. / --.-
This is so we can't see what grammar mistakes you make isn't it? :mrgreen:
是:thumright:
dizzyblonde
29-06-09, 04:36 PM
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Oh look! I've missed 11 pages of total bo'cks while I've been away!
Oh look! I've missed 11 pages of total bo'cks while I've been away!
:winner:
very unique, fairly unique etc.
Unique means "one of a kind" so is an absolute and can't be applied with degrees.
There's a hairdresser near me that proudly proclaims that it: "Specialises in all styles"
I was pretty sure I could hear Northwind's teeth grating as I read that one:D
There's a hairdresser near me that proudly proclaims that it: "Specialises in all styles"
I was pretty sure I could hear Northwind's teeth grating as I read that one:D
was it a unisex hairdresser?
skidmarx
30-06-09, 01:05 PM
So, do I take it that common sense has prevailed and that the .org welcomes all those who wish to post irrespective of their ability with the English Language? Or are we going down the Holier than Thou route, whereby somebody complains about the standard of english being so poor that for some reason they feel almost offended?
I suppose at the end of the day, it's either going to be a forum for bikers who like to share stuff and who feel welcome irrespective of their writing skills, or a place only for those that can write to a certain standard.
I know which I would prefer, and it's not the one where judgements are made about presentation rather than content.
So, do I take it that common sense has prevailed and that the .org welcomes all those who wish to post irrespective of their ability with the English Language? Or are we going down the Holier than Thou route, whereby somebody complains about the standard of english being so poor that for some reason they feel almost offended?
I suppose at the end of the day, it's either going to be a forum for bikers who like to share stuff and who feel welcome irrespective of their writing skills, or a place only for those that can write to a certain standard.
I know which I would prefer, and it's not the one where judgements are made about presentation rather than content.:confused: It was never a question about English ability. It was always choice whether you posted ??? !!! and ..........
skidmarx
30-06-09, 03:56 PM
:confused: It was never a question about English ability. It was always choice whether you posted ??? !!! and ..........
........well then can I assume it's ok to rite wot the f*€k I want then without the pedant police moaning cos they got nuffin better to do???
Spiderman
30-06-09, 04:01 PM
as long as it dont push the U rating of course ;)
skidmarx
30-06-09, 04:11 PM
as long as it dont push the U rating of course ;)
No sir not me! Thanks for the clarification. I assume mods have been sent on a re-orientation course to enable them to distinguish between reality and bs. And we can all carry on as we were. Maybe a sticky to help those who are unsure would help so we don't have to go through all this nonsense again.
Interesting reading, but I would say that I only half agree with Sid.
Our language continually morphs over the years. Show modern written english to some one from say 200 years ago and they would struggle to understand it, probably going on to claim that it is poorly written. However, punctuation on the whole, will remain constant as it enables our ability to understand the written word in context and meaning. I would profer eats shoots and leaves as a good book to read on this subject.
But and this is were I disagree, punctuation can also be morphic. If the meaning of new punctuation is understood by the general populus and doesnt distract from the meaning of the original text then why shouldn't it become the correct way of doing things ????
;)
I disagree - mob rule has never been the best way of determining things. Also, while language changes very quickly (and english seems to be more flexible than most), as far as Im aware, almost everyone dislikes the current "trend" of poor spelling/punctuation - caused not by a shift in language but a lack of teaching and parental responsibility. Hands up
those under 40 that were coached in spelling, grammar and pronunciation by their parent(s) as well as their school work? I was.
Although I can say (quickly!), my grasp on english is poor, by the standards I know.
Well done Sid, when are you going to claim your steak then?
Spiderman
30-06-09, 04:27 PM
I assume mods have been sent on a re-orientation course to enable them to distinguish between reality and bs.
I was the only one who showed up and i still dont know my ar*e from my elbow.
Jamiebridges123
30-06-09, 04:29 PM
..-. ..- -.-. -.- / -- . / - .... .. ... / .. ... / .- / -. . .-- / .-- .- -.-- / - --- / --. . - / .-. --- ..- -. -.. / - .... . / ... .-- . .- .-. / ..-. .. .-.. - . .-.
LMAO! :smt081:smt081
skidmarx
30-06-09, 05:03 PM
I was the only one who showed up and i still dont know my ar*e from my elbow.
Me neither, who does? Just gets on my flippin nerves when people are so intolerant!!!...
...caused not by a shift in language but a lack of teaching and parental responsibility.
:lol: the classic view???
classic is one way of putting it lol
lol, my classic view is dont have kids, but that doesnt mean I go around telling them to get back in (for a good example - Stig/Mrs Stigs kids are fab) AND as my ma is third eldest of 13, what can I say?
Its not a question of intolerance surely? More taking that really unpopular stance...having standards. I know my standards are around here somewhere, probably under that stuff in the garage *laughing*.
...caused not by a shift in language but a lack of teaching and parental responsibility.
BS.
Blame teachers. It must be their fault. Everthing else is, so why not ..., ??? and !!! too.
Blame parents. They are responsible and have clearly failed to educate their children properly. After all, children should be seen and not heard. We have a particularly lively 11 year old, she has always been challenging, exhausting in fact, and I daresay she always will be. We have no help, family all live at least 200 miles away, neighbours don't want to know. I'm often too exhausted to deal with in a calm way so I raise my voice and daughter no doubt copies me. So I have failed...
Perhaps we should blame the BBC for importing US TV programmes. Maybe we should blame 'Neighbours' for the 'No worries' that you hear all the time now.
Maybe we should examine, critically, ourselves...
...and then read the newspapers and see how much less starchy they have become, listen to Radio 4 and hear John Humphreys saying 'bollocking' as he did the other day (he later apologised, saying that he had meant to say 'rollicking', and then we will switch on the .org and see ..., ??? and !!!.
I like a softer approach. I use ..., ??? and !!! for emphasis, don't see the problem:scratch:
dizzyblonde
30-06-09, 10:34 PM
Blame teachers. It must be their fault. Everthing else is, so why not ..., ??? and !!! too.
Blame parents. They are responsible and have clearly failed to educate their children properly.
No no No don't do that. My sons teachers have always done very well for him. Hes just done his SATS and has come out top of the class. Above the yearly average for Reading and Maths. Unfortunately writing is a bit poop, but who doesn't have a seven year old boy whose writing resembles that of a spider running over a page!
This thick cow educated her son well enough for her son to fly through school in an academical way rather than that of a sport loving chav....can't knock us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Good post =D>
Good in what respect? is that a reference to the bad spelling (e.g. 'your' instead of 'you're') or the bad grammar?
My statement about immaturity refers to people using multiple exclamation marks and suchlike; it does show immaturity no matter how you try and dress it up as evolution.
My statement about immaturity refers to people using multiple exclamation marks and suchlike; it does show immaturity no matter how you try and dress it up as evolution.
:rolleyes: Politely disagree.
Spiderman
30-06-09, 11:43 PM
:rolleyes: Politely disagree.
+1 !!!!!!
What you call immature can also been seen as not being a stuffy old fuddy duddy like ned flanders who always has to do everything just right.
My immaturity if you wanna call it that is the childlike spirit in me that i never want to loose.
The years may tick on a bit but i aint growing up as far as i can avoid it :)
LWright
01-07-09, 02:26 AM
Wow, you Brits sure are a cheesy bunch. What an impression! The first post I opened and did I read? A whole lot of bickering over punctuation. No wonder Brazilians love you guys.
:rolleyes: Politely disagree.
Thought you would love to still have some immaturity left in you :p
(I did like your post btw)
Wow, you Brits sure are a cheesy bunch. What an impression! The first post I opened and did I read? A whole lot of bickering over punctuation. No wonder Brazilians love you guys.
That's a bit unfortunate, because it's mostly lots of people who know each other very well having some light hearted banter, perhaps you'd be better looking around the SV section or bike talk section until you get to know the characters better, but welcome anyway :D nice to build up our Brazilian section even more :)
Good in what respect? is that a reference to the bad spelling (e.g. 'your' instead of 'you're') or the bad grammar?
My statement about immaturity refers to people using multiple exclamation marks and suchlike; it does show immaturity no matter how you try and dress it up as evolution.
Or perhaps it's a sign some people have a fairly relaxed attitude towards these things and do it out of choice rather than need to impress the more "mature" people (read = old folks ;)).
gruntygiggles
01-07-09, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=Stu;1958243]Thought you would love to still have some immaturity left in you :p
(I did like your post btw)
That's a bit unfortunate, because it's mostly lots of people who know each other very well having some light hearted banter, perhaps you'd be better looking around the SV section or bike talk section until you get to know the characters better, but welcome anyway :D nice to build up our Brazilian section even more :)[/QUOTE
I think American section, Michigan to be a bit more precise, but wherever.....
Welcome LWright! Stu is right, you should take a look around the rest of the site maybe before Idle Banter as this is just generally where we all post things that have little or nothing to do with bikes and while you're getting used to who's who in here, I can understand it seeming a bit odd...lol.
skidmarx
01-07-09, 08:17 AM
Good in what respect? is that a reference to the bad spelling (e.g. 'your' instead of 'you're') or the bad grammar?
My statement about immaturity refers to people using multiple exclamation marks and suchlike; it does show immaturity no matter how you try and dress it up as evolution.
...not sure about that!!!
An inability to adapt to change demonstrates the kind of rigid thinking styles seen in the very young and the old. I'm sure you can cope with a few extra punctuation marks without having to label the person as immature? If not ,then that is your problem surely and reflects more upon yourself?
Good in what respect? is that a reference to the bad spelling (e.g. 'your' instead of 'you're') or the bad grammar?
My statement about immaturity refers to people using multiple exclamation marks and suchlike; it does show immaturity no matter how you try and dress it up as evolution.
Well that says it all. So now you feel the need not only to be totally anal about !!! and ??? but also now my spelling. If i want to spell something badly i will and as for the !!! i'll use them however i want.
Also before anyone else says i'm over reacting. Frankly i'm not. Being called immature and ignorant then just getting more crap just cause i miss spell a word??!?!?! If this was happening in a pub it would be a very short arguement.
plowsie
01-07-09, 09:43 AM
Also before anyone else says i'm over reacting
Your over reacting :scratch:
GeneticBubble
01-07-09, 09:45 AM
Your over reacting :scratch:
No you are! :D :scratch:
plowsie
01-07-09, 09:49 AM
lol overreacting?
No it is - over reacting, I meant you actually are. Don't take offence to stuff so much man, chill Winston.
:thumbsup:
plowsie
01-07-09, 09:50 AM
No you are! :D :scratch:
This could trigger a huge reaction, worth many exclamation marks, however, one is just fine!
:rambo:
No it is - over reacting, I meant you actually are. Don't take offence to stuff so much man, chill Winston.
:thumbsup:
lol ok ok - look surprisingly i don't appreciate being told i'm ignorant or immature just because i don't spell everything perfect and because i use more than 1 !. So if someone is going to insult me it goes both ways. I don't see Lozzo's post as being "humerous" in the slightest so unsurprisingly i'm not going to take them any other way than if someone came up to me in the street and said i was ignorant and/or immature.
(and if i've spelt anything wrong tough :-)
GeneticBubble
01-07-09, 09:57 AM
lol ok ok - look surprisingly i don't appreciate being told i'm ignorant or immature just because i don't spell everything perfect and because i use more than 1 !. So if someone is going to insult me it goes both ways. I don't see Lozzo's post as being "humerous" in the slightest so unsurprisingly i'm not going to take them any other way than if someone came up to me in the street and said i was ignorant and/or immature.
(and if i've spelt anything wrong tough :-)
you forgot to close the bracket at the end ^^ :rolleyes:
point taken - always doing that with code :-)
plowsie
01-07-09, 10:00 AM
lol ok ok - look surprisingly i don't appreciate being told i'm ignorant or immature just because i don't spell everything perfect and because i use more than 1 !. So if someone is going to insult me it goes both ways. I don't see Lozzo's post as being "humerous" in the slightest so unsurprisingly i'm not going to take them any other way than if someone came up to me in the street and said i was ignorant and/or immature.
(and if i've spelt anything wrong tough :-)
But was Lozzo calling you personally immature etc? I think it was more so the general consensus that do it. Like I say, don't take it to heart, it may or may not have been directly aimed at you, don't ponder on it, life is too short...I mean you say you don't give a to$$ what is said about your spelling and grammar, yet your annoyed that a comment may have been aimed at you about it :confused:
I'm going to get annoyed if someone continues to say im immature because of the way i spell or use grammar. I've changed my post to take out the one bit cause maybe that was an overreaction. However he is clearly stating that anyone that uses !!! or ??? is immature and/or ignorant and also i do feel that the last post was directed at me since he was quoting a reply to my post.
O and i don't give to$$ in the sense that i'll keep using the !!?!?!?! however its not going to stop me getting annoyed. I wouldn't mind if there was some flexability in his arguement but no " use too many !! and your ignorant". I've already stated that i do find it a bit annoying if someone doesn't try at all to make something understandable however labelling them like he has is taking the mick.
GeneticBubble
01-07-09, 10:06 AM
this thread is more popular than i thought it would be im now branding this thread!
NEW AND EXCITING! \\:D/
plowsie
01-07-09, 10:08 AM
I'm going to get annoyed if someone continues to say im immature because of the way i spell or use grammar. I've changed my post to take out the one bit cause maybe that was an overreaction. However he is clearly stating that anyone that uses !!! or ??? is immature and/or ignorant and also i do feel that the last post was directed at me since he was quoting a reply to my post.
But you are missing my point, you are taking this to heart, this is a discussion about spelling and grammar, your getting i-rate over it because someone referred to people in your view (yes, not you personally), immature or ignorant, not damned to the gates of hell or anything. If someone called me ignorant, I'd say thanks, if someone called me immature, I'd think, you know me well.
This is a public forum, where one of the thingss that can keep a discussion running is a difference in views.
If someone called me ignorant, I'd say thanks, if someone called me immature, I'd think, you know me well.
. ah!!!!!!!!!!
but we are not on about you, or are we???????????
not to self, do not call wizurd immature............... or.......................ignorant at the pub tonight
I can understand that we are all going to have different views. Fine with that.
Unfortunately i don't respond well to being labelled ignorant or whatever. If it is just a general thing fine but i didnt think it came across like that after his last post. Thats it really
ah!!!!!!!!!!
but we are not on about you, or are we???????????
not to self, do not call wizurd immature............... or.......................ignorant at the pub tonight
lol i forgot about tonight. Call me what you like at the pub. Sometimes i think forums are the worst for me. lol
plowsie
01-07-09, 10:17 AM
I can understand that we are all going to have different views. Fine with that.
Unfortunately i don't respond well to being labelled ignorant or whatever. If it is just a general thing fine but i didnt think it came across like that after his last post. Thats it really
Fair enough then, point taken.
lol i forgot about tonight. Call me what you like at the pub. Sometimes i think forums are the worst for me. lol
Yeah, but where would you be without this place :smt106
Fair enough then, point taken.
Yeah, but where would you be without this place :smt106
probably less stressed lol I do try to take everything with a pinch of salt on here. But like everyone i've got things that set me off.
Anyway - i stand by one thing i've said. Using !!!! and ???? is not ignorant and/or immature.
Still no sign of OP in the last 14 pages...
RatchetJob
01-07-09, 10:30 AM
Still no sign of OP in the last 14 pages...
Pull pin, find cover.
SoulKiss
01-07-09, 10:31 AM
Still no sign of OP in the last 14 pages...
Why should he?
He IS right you know, and all the posts contradicting him have not required rebuttal as they haven't actually had any valid reason for comment to be made, as "Does it matter" or "I can't be bothered to do things right" dont really add anything to the discussion.
So what would he have to add if he did re-post? It seems that those who accept and agree with him have done and the others have tried to justify their errors.
. I don't see Lozzo's post as being "humerous" in the slightest
(and if i've spelt anything wrong tough :-)
Ok I won't pull you up on your spelling as you tickled my funny bone with your reaction. :lol:
Still no sign of OP in the last 14 pages...
Did you not read the thread? He decided to let them have the last word.
Why should he?
He IS right you know, and all the posts contradicting him have not required rebuttal as they haven't actually had any valid reason for comment to be made, as "Does it matter" or "I can't be bothered to do things right" dont really add anything to the discussion.
So what would he have to add if he did re-post? It seems that those who accept and agree with him have done and the others have tried to justify their errors.
There have been valid arguments made. Namely that this is a forum and that using multiple !!! or ??? does have meaning to quite a few people, for example !!!! more annoyed and ??? more confused. Also as other people have argued, language does evolve especially on the internet and also with text speak on phones.
Due to the fact that this forum doesn't have rules stating that we must not use !!! and ??? i can only see that on a whole this forums accepts that its ok to do this, otherwise lots of people would have been banned by now.
[QUOTE=Venom;1958512]Ok I won't pull you up on your spelling as you tickled my funny bone with your reaction. :lol:
QUOTE]
Yes. Tried to calm down now :-)
My spelling is awful because the vast majority of my day is spent typing code.
five days, 156 posts :rolleyes:
SoulKiss
01-07-09, 10:49 AM
Due to the fact that this forum doesn't have rules stating that we must not use !!! and ??? i can only see that on a whole this forums accepts that its ok to do this, otherwise lots of people would have been banned by now.
I would have thought the rules of written English would have meant that it would not need to be re-stated in the forum rules...
five days, 156 posts :rolleyes:
28 days... 6 hours... 42 minutes... 12 seconds. That... is when this thread... will end.
Just reminded me of Donnie Darko ;)
28 days... 6 hours... 42 minutes... 12 seconds. That... is when this thread... will end.
Just reminded me of Donnie Darko ;)
lol class
I would have thought the rules of written English would have meant that it would not need to be re-stated in the forum rules...
Obviously not though by looking at the posts. So do you suggest that people are warned/banned for using incorrect English in the forum?
Bluewolf
01-07-09, 10:54 AM
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SoulKiss
01-07-09, 10:59 AM
Obviously not though by looking at the posts. So do you suggest that people are warned/banned for using incorrect English in the forum?
I don't believe that ANYONE has suggested that.
So it doesn't matter then if i want to use 1 or 2 !
There would be nobody left... ;)
Especially not me :-)
its readable, it logically and i'm sure we are all adult enough to ask if we don't understand it.
cd b a lt wrs - i dl wth txt spk all dy as prt of my job n every1 has a dffnt way of txtn ( could be a lot worse - i deal with text speak all day as part of my job and everyone has a different way of texting)
Now if everyone wrote like that i could understand but we don't and the standards have dropped. Tone is lost on forums hence the needs for smilies so that people don't get confused over the message. It just another form of communication that has sprung up to help deal with the problems that forums create. Its not constituted as proper english but how can it be its only been around a few years relatively and hey who knows what it may mutate into ( look at text speak)
Spiderman
01-07-09, 11:24 AM
He IS right you know,
Yes he is right, if we wre all sitting our English exams on this forum we'd all fail or actually make an effort as it has some meaning and relevance, however were not. Were havibg casual chit chat which for the vast majority of it is splet well and punctuated adequately. It doesnt actuallt require more than that to get our points across, especially in IB wheree 99.9% of the posts are just total guff anyway.
if someone was askign for tech advice or help and wrote my bikes not going gud, mayeb electrics or sumtin elses? then i'd agree that they were not posting well and thus being a pain and making it harder for themselves to be understood and thus deminishing the quantity or quality of the replies they get.
and all the posts contradicting him have not required rebuttal as they haven't actually had any valid reason for comment to be made, as "Does it matter" or "I can't be bothered to do things right" dont really add anything to the discussion.
But they are the discussion. Squidlers point is absolute is you look at it from a "rules" point of view. Their s no room for ambiguity in the interpretation of the rules, so no one can "win" by giving a good argumnet or changing his mind (after all he's not sharing his thoughts but pointing out the preset rules of the language) so if everyone who disageed simply said "disagree" without justifying it there would be no discussion.
Would you (not you personally SK, you as a collective) pull someone up fo their spoken words if you thought they said "your" when they meant to say "you're"? No you wouldn't so why do it in the written form when its quite clear what they are trying to express?
I'm very angry.
I'm very angry!
I'm very angry!!! *$$@!!&%!!!
Which of those converys the level of my emotion more to most people?
And bearing in mind the U rating here for a moment too. Some people would use a lot of expletives to make their point sometimes. The fact we dont allow that means they curb their use of language of choice and so shotcut the emotion they want to convey in their own way by adding lots of !!!!!!! sometimes.
Yet some want to degenrate the discussion into "cos i say" and call people (individualy or collectively) immature, unworthy of havig their comments read, stupid for suggesting its evolution etc
And thats what we call a discussion....no-one is gonna win, no one is gonna start typing in a way other than satisfies themselves. Squidler opened the door to a discussion otherwise he may as well have asked a mod to lock his post after he posted it as he didnt want a discussion, no?
Does someone want to pop round to Sid's and make sure he hasn't left the lid off of the Evostick again? ;)
Alpinestarhero
01-07-09, 01:05 PM
are we still doing this?
maybe if people are this serious about english on forums, then we should have a big bold-typed sign upon signing up
"write in proper english, with correct spelling and grammar, or please do not join our well established forum"
plowsie
01-07-09, 01:12 PM
"write in proper english, with correct spelling and grammar, or please do not join our well established forum"
I think there is something like that along the lines of "please make posts clear an easy to read" though I could be wrong...
are we still doing this?
??????????????????????????????
GeneticBubble
01-07-09, 01:37 PM
??????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????? :stupid: :rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
01-07-09, 01:46 PM
My only thought on the matter is when I see the Essex chavs on the forum requesting help in some form of "txt spk", they obviously can't be arsed to speak English, so why should I put any effort into helping them with whatever issue they have?
My only thought on the matter is when I see the Essex chavs on the forum requesting help in some form of "txt spk", they obviously can't be arsed to speak English, so why should I put any effort into helping them with whatever issue they have?
Easy answer to that though - there's no requirement to speak correct English, just like there's no requirement to offer help. So just do what you like.
Chavs, and any others who can't or won't use at least an attempt at decent understandable written English, do not just come from Essex.
Nor is it wholly the teacher's, school's or parents' fault. Writing styles have undergone one of the largest sea changes in recent times (possibly since the great vowel shift some centuries ago) due primarily i think, to the rise in digital communication.
However text speak is not new in itself. My house is 150 years old and i have some of the early records of its sale and transfer. One of these is a copy of the title rights to the house, written in what would nowadays be called text speak. that was simply because someone needed a copy of the document and photocopiers weren't around. Someone copied the document out by hand, using only those letters necessary to make it intelligible.
Personally i find lazy text speak annoying because it takes me longer to understand the meaning. I have to read it out to myself phonetically to make any sense. I'd rather see a good attempt at proper written English but the odd mistake doesn't put me off (so long as I resist the urge to correct it in red).
I do, however, find excessive use of exclamation marks and the like, irritating, but try to ignore in much the same way I try to ignore someone picking their nose!
using only those letters necessary to make it intelligible.
also the old telegram was charged by the letter i think.
Wow! What a read.
I think that people should make a certain amount of effort when using the English Language, even on forums. I believe that on an internet forum certain things are acceptable, such as intialisms like FWIW (had to look that up!). I think text speak is OK in texts and slang is appropriate when talking to others who use the same slang.
As their years pass people's own grasp of language, grammar, punctuation and common good manners generally mature, and I think these skills should be regularly used.
I am guilty of !!!! and ???? from time to time for emphasis, for which I make no apology, although I am increasingly using underlining and bold instead.
To summarise:
i talk properer not like wot you do cos i was edumacated!!!!!!!
Like any forum, there will be some posts that are just too much effort for me to read, so I tend to skip those and not bother trying to form a reply.
I wouldn't put the person originating the thread on ignore or set the grammar police on them though :)
Iansv II
11-07-09, 01:12 PM
Is this still going ?
Stick a fork in it... and all hail the squid :p
I write reports daily and therefore I don't feel the need to make proper use of punctuation etc in my spare time!!!!!!!! ;)
Milky Bar Kid
11-07-09, 10:27 PM
I write reports daily and therefore I don't feel the need to make proper use of punctuation etc in my spare time!!!!!!!! ;)
Amen to that!:smt021 :scratch: :smt117:compcrash:
19 pages and we are all so much further forward.
Time to lock this thread, isn't it???
DanAbnormal
12-07-09, 08:49 AM
I see this place is still exciting as ever!
You guys really should get out on your bikes more.
Spiderman
12-07-09, 01:12 PM
19 pages and we are all so much further forward.
Time to lock this thread, isn't it???
I dont think this is a debate where anyone is going to change the others minds about anything, so really not going to move further in any direction.
But why lock it??? No-ones been too rude to others they disagree with or is getting way too emotional and screamy over this? If people wanna air their veiws in a grown up manner about this subject then this is the place for it. Personally I never agree with locking threads unless they are getting really heated and people start being rude to each other. To me this has been an interesting and sensible debate. Yes its dragging on and I had my say pages ago but why ask for it to be locked? Others still seem to have a view and i for one am interested in their views.
Its rare that i disagree with you Ed but this is one occasion ;)
I see this place is still exciting as ever!
You guys really should get out on your bikes more.
Please consider that most of us get out on our bikes and every now and then we have time to kill, be it at work or at home and want to get involved in a debate that has no real winner or looser but is a place for people to air their views.
if you dont like the discussion subject of a thread or have nothing to add to the debate it just pointlessly condescending to tell people what they should do with their time. I'm out of work at the moment so cant justify spending loads of money doing pointless miles on my bike so typing words on a forum
is what i choose to do. However Dan if you'd prefer to see less of my dribble and ramblings on here feel free to send me a cheque with at least 4 figures before the .00p and i gurantee you i'll spend it all on fuel and tyres and trackdays :)
Quiff Wichard
13-07-09, 11:20 AM
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?
Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?
Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:
This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.
This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.
This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.
HTH
oops me is guilty of all of the above..
now my paranoia has kicked in .. :(
Quiff Wichard
13-07-09, 11:29 AM
Now you know why I gave up on my frequent postings about the standard of the use of the English language in general usage on the Internet, Sid.
People are happy with making do, and good enough, instead of doing the job properly, all to save a few moments of their time.
Mind you, when 25% of kids leaving Primary School these day can't even read, I guess we are getting by, which seems to be the accepted level.
and the other 85% are rubbish at maths David
hindle8907
13-07-09, 11:39 AM
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?
Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?
Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:
This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.
This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.
This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.
i do this too
if im clueless i put ???
if i think im right but not 100% ill put ?
what's an elipsis?
is that where the moon goes infront of the Sun? ...O....o....O
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