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maybe a PM might get a response rather than havin a pop on the thread...
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independentphoto
06-06-10, 06:50 PM
Rode one section of the route yesterday with Q and got almost drowned TWICE. The weather was awful but the ride was great. It was enough to take my tyres to the edges. Sunday being worked on.
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hmmph! - sorry didn't get back to you Mrs - I've been out scouting the route!
Thanks for the support guys appreciated. the route has been run and there are some major flaws that need to get sorted. So I'm not posting until these are done and sorted. If i posted now I think I may cause confusion.
Stuarty you want to flame me then fine but until everything is sorted I WILL NOT post the route. If you don't like it tough. As for you route do you mean this one (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=119571&highlight=rideout+stuartyboy)?? (posted by Ralph and done exactly the same the year after - If i wanted to do the same route as last years GM yes it would take very little time and organising but the group decided that it would be better to have a different route to GM1 and GM2 and there are few more than 12 which does create a few more logistic problems)
I'm on the home straight with it - I'm supposed to be doing it now but hey a wee text alerted me to the rumblings so thought i better give you and update
independentphoto
06-06-10, 06:57 PM
The route is the only reason I'm holding back from going and I've no idea why its taking so long or what the big secret is.↲My hint is very simple- the route is centred around a point close to the campsite. Considering that it will cater for all levels of experience and last most of the day whilst including regroups and a lunch stop, you can figure that we're not going to Applecross, Kelso or John o' Groats.
combatfred
06-06-10, 07:11 PM
Hey Guys,
I'm just asking about the route, that's all. The route has been decided, so I'm wondering when it'll be posted.
I'm going regardless of the route, but I don't get the secrecy/surprise aspect. If there's a reason why it's not being posted, then that's cool.
I'm appreciative of the work that's been put in and I'm certainly not having a dig. Hell, I'm sitting on my chubby ar*e doing nothing in the run up to the GM. I'm just turning up and having fun. I'm not in the position to have a pop. I'm just wondering if the route can be posted, since it's known.
independentphoto
06-06-10, 07:55 PM
I wouldn't say that it is "known" since there could still easily be changes and as my better half has mentioned, we don't want everyone becoming confused. Those who might need to rush off mid-rideout and save the world etc can do so in a reasonable time. Once the shirts been ironed, it'll be available to wear. Similar to the t-shirt panic that we had months ago.
Really looking forward to meeting up and having some great craic with everyone, AND NOT WORKING.
Looking forward to the ride out, where ever it is but being an old fat cripple I may not get all of it done.
Really looking forward to meeting up and having some great craic with everyone, AND NOT WORKING.
Looking forward to the ride out, where ever it is but being an old fat cripple I may not get all of it done.
If Quiff can do it, then you should be fine ;)
If Quiff can do it, then you should be fine ;)
Matt, your a star!
I think Quiff is a few years behind me but my natural athleticism and cat like superhero reactions will shine thro'.
besides I promised Cumfy a wee beer, or JD
He ain't that far behind you ;)
stuartyboy
06-06-10, 08:56 PM
As for you route do you mean this one (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=119571&highlight=rideout+stuartyboy)??
Just for the record - my father died weeks before that rideout and before that my brother was killed. Incidentally, the route was always meant t be the same each year.
Just for the record - my father died weeks before that rideout and before that my brother was killed. Incidentally, the route was always meant t be the same each year.
How was I meant to know - I'm only going by what the forums said. (GM wasn't meant to be the same each year so requires a bit more planning)
Just as you don't know whats happening behind the scenes with me.
The route will be published as soon as the group happy that we have enough stopping points for the large numbers and that we have sorted out the problems with the route. It will be as soon as we can.
northwind
06-06-10, 11:47 PM
Yes it is actually. Northy kept everyone in the loop at the past rideouts.
You're having a laugh! Last year's route was finally decided about 48 hours before the rideout :D And if I remember rightly the year before I only found one of the stops about a week before, with your help. That would be the same year that KG was out flying around the central belt about 4 days before, trying to find the ideal route for a bit we ended up abandoning completely on the day anyway because we were running about 3 hours behind the schedule. Not so much in the loop as loop the loop. But, it's always been alright on the night.
No doubt with me not being involved in the planning this year's is much more organised.
Milky Bar Kid
06-06-10, 11:55 PM
Seriously. Can everyone just chill out?!!??
Seriously. Can everyone just chill out?!!??
+1
'nough said
the ecosse posse chill out.... hahahahahahahahahaha. you must be kidding, thats not how we do things. everyone knows if us Scottish aren't bickering there is something wrong.
independentphoto
07-06-10, 06:50 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Northy. Now for all those with a NEED to know like NOW, the routes should be posted soon. The organising group will be finalising the fuel & comfort stops ASAP and then you can moan that your favourite B6492 is not part of it. Just relax and look forward to it.....
the ecosse posse chill out.... hahahahahahahahahaha. you must be kidding, thats not how we do things. everyone knows if us Scottish aren't bickering there is something wrong.
Oi you hope I'm included in that comment even though I can honestly say you lot started it.! LOL:cool:
The Guru
07-06-10, 07:24 AM
...The route will be published as soon as the group happy...
Out of curiosity, who is in the 'group' that keeps getting mentioned? :confused:
dizzyblonde
07-06-10, 07:34 AM
Why the hell do you lot wanna know the route for?, turn up, follow everyone else, wobble about, have a good time, bobs yer uncle and fanny yer aunt!
Besides would you prefer an accompaniment of coppers anywhere to make sure you are all playing nice, if they get wind of where you lot are??
Stop bloody bickering and have a good time, or I might just get upset and jealous
Heres one to cheer everyone up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hv7VPpz1M
rather apt don't we think ;-)
Out of curiosity, who is in the 'group' that keeps getting mentioned? :confused:
Kilted, Northy, Tiger, Blue Flame, IP and me
Kilted, Northy, Tiger, Blue Flame, IP and me
Oh, so there's different clans is there...;)
Well - enjoy this :dj:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4V7Y_bWiYI
The Guru
07-06-10, 08:10 AM
Kilted, Northy, Tiger, Blue Flame, IP and me
:thumright:
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-Ralph-
07-06-10, 08:21 AM
This post is not having a pop at anybody, I know how hard the organising is as I was involved in GM1, though it was primarily Northy.
The reason I needed to know the route for GM2 was because Sandrine was with me and I needed a 'cop out and return to campsite' plan if it got too much for her after 150 miles, she wouldn't have coped as an occasional pillion with the 250 mile day we had on GM1. If GM2 had been the same distance I'd have needed to figure out how to chop it in half.
It looks like somebody else above may have the same issue. If we can't post the route it may be useful to some to post the approximate mileage, like to the nearest 50 miles? And perhaps the longest distance been any two stops.
People also may want to join and leave somewhere other than the campsite.
Like YC and MissYC did last year, they may want to drop out at some point and take some time on their own to explore, or take a boat trip, or go up the funicular railway, see Glen Nevis, etc, etc
I'm not riding the GM anymore, just coming for the Saturday evening, but if the route had transpired to be one that I really didn't like (for instance, over to Dalwhinnie requiring a large section of A9 or something similar), I'd just have gone off and done my own thing, but then I know the roads and have that choice.
I can understand both sides of it, it's not an easy thing to organise, and can take a couple of months by the time you've found 3 or 4 free Sunday's to go and recce, but there is a year in which to do it, and you can always post a provisional route then change it as we did on GM1. It is primarily a rideout, unlike the AR which is primarily a social weekend, the route is 75% of the weekend. It is understandable that if people are paying a lot of money and travelling a long distance for the weekend away, that they would like to know what they are doing when they get there. We had the same grumbles about the route last year, it is an important aspect for a lot of the people the organisers are trying to cater for. Perhaps food for thought for next year.
gerbrox
07-06-10, 08:34 AM
Okay here's the route.
route (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Colinslee+Crescent&daddr=Unknown+road&geocode=FRgsVAMd1PbB_w%3BFbZfVQMdeIPN_w&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=55.924105,-3.304996&sspn=0.01611,0.054932&ie=UTF8&ll=55.887635,-3.687286&spn=0.258003,0.878906&t=h&z=10)
you coudl always do it twice if once is not enough.
sry I know it's not big or clever, mod please delete, only my unfunny sense of humour
Paul the 6th
07-06-10, 08:42 AM
the m8 is a sick bit of motorway! 2, sometimes 3 lanes in places... crazy shiz
I think i need a crash course in google maps!
Ralph thanks for the post - we have been working in drop out points for that very reason and hopefully we are almost there so should be coming in the next few days ( google maps willing)
Morning route - 105 miles
Afternoon route 168 miles with 2 drop out points
Sunday route - if anyone is up for it is 152 miles
Quiff Wichard
07-06-10, 09:36 AM
all calm now..
some folk may need to know as they staying on and dont want to duplicate roads in their plans..
plus..
if you are going to drop out half way round then LET SOMEBODY KNOW.
it will all be alright on the night.. as long as someone has arranged for big signs to be put up saying PETE - IT IS PETROL YOU NEED .. at the green welly stop
yorkie_chris
07-06-10, 09:38 AM
I think we should change Petes lock on his petrol cap and only give the key to a grown-up :)
Like it Quiff - must get that sorted! Will have word with the guy at the shop - Yellow ducatti - don't turn the pump on till we've all checked!
just to be completely anal - I will be posting a wee etiquette guide same as last year
and BTW - anyone want to be a marshal!!
yorkie_chris
07-06-10, 09:53 AM
and BTW - anyone want to be a marshal!!
What for marking junctions and stuff?
Has it been decided not to use the drop off system then?
drop off system in place works too well to ditch it.
Ideally would like to have these in place for breakdowns but I think I'm going to be alright once I have a leader!
stuartyboy
07-06-10, 10:16 AM
You're having a laugh!...Not so much in the loop as loop the loop. But, it's always been alright on the night.
Have to correct you Northy - you kept me in the loop all the time with the route. I don't have an issue with last minute changes at all. You PMd everyone in March last year with an update and I had and you gave me an extremely good idea of what the actual route was going to be.
My reasons for needing to know the route are 100% genuine. I pm'd ages ago asking for an idea of the route so I could plan round it and at least be able to turn up but I never got a reply or it wasn't received due to a techie glitch. (I see my pms have a few spam messages.)
If we can't post the route it may be useful to some to post the approximate mileage, like to the nearest 50 miles? And perhaps the longest distance been any two stops.
That doesn't work for me as it's not the distance - it's the location. I am on call and I have to be on site within 4 hours. If I'm in Lochgilphead or Campbeltown then I'm called to Aberdeen I'm cutting it fine. If I've been riding for an hour and I haven't been able to answer my phone during that time then my window is even less. If I know I will be in a certain place at an approximate time then at least I can make a contingency with someone from the backup rota but the rideout is in the middle of the holiday period and I need to give a few weeks notice.
Anyway, it doesn't matter now and I'll retract all my previous posts about knowing the route in advance. I've decided I won't be going this year but I genuinely hope you all have a good weekend
I think we should change Petes lock on his petrol cap and only give the key to a grown-up :)
still giggling!:D:D
independentphoto
07-06-10, 10:50 AM
Stuart- The route should be up very soon which gives you a couple of weeks to plan. The phone thing is a factor but can't you use Autocom? On the other hand, it sounds like you could be taking a bit of a gamble job wise if there is so much doubt. I tried to phone you but your mobile no comes up unknown. There has been too much sniping by all which is almost certainly due to lack of tone in written and not spoken messages. Everyone needs to remember that we don't all live our lives on here and that the organisers cannot dedicate every spare moment to one thing- life goes on. Looking forward to the event.
The Guru
07-06-10, 11:36 AM
...There has been too much sniping by all which is almost certainly due to lack of tone in written and not spoken messages...
Correct. Also with lack of punctuation in some posts it can totally change how something is read and therefore sounds.
...Looking forward to the event.
:winner:
missyburd
07-06-10, 12:41 PM
Well I for one am most excited about the whole event :D I've been busy for the last month and only now have had a chance to start thinking about the GMIII and boy oh boy it's gonna be good :D
I am a little taken aback by some responses in this thread and although it is best to have the route available to people as soon as possible at the end of the day these things don't just magic themselves into appearance! A big thumbs up to Quedos and everyone else involved, I'm sure we'll all be grateful regardless :)
Sorry to hear Stuartyboy's pulling out too :(
Shame SB can't make it. I know what on-call can be like, and yes it does badly screw with your social life sometimes.
I've got an Autocom with two headsets, gathering lots of dust, if that will help out.
Oi you hope I'm included in that comment even though I can honestly say you lot started it.! LOL:cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvxALFWvHs
says it all realy.
BIGSTEVE
07-06-10, 01:52 PM
i'll be there from the friday until sunday. not sure if i'll be joining the run on saturday or heading off with my bro on our own route but give a big thumbs up to the organisers for all their hard work they've put in to date and for having the balls to lead a rabble such as yourselves on a decent run. Its not an easy job keeping that many people together and having to be responsible for you all.
I know it's nice to know where you are going on a run if you've not done certain roads before but give the guys a chance, i know how hard it can be to organise runs, you have to accomodate for all riding levels and feel it's your responsibility to make sure all riders are safe and happy.
Just my 2p
[QUOTE=Quedos;2288962]I think i need a crash course in google maps!
Ralph thanks for the post - we have been working in drop out points for that very reason and hopefully we are almost there so should be coming in the next few days ( google maps willing)
you don't need google maps! the truth is the route is up and down the N15 till you get dizzy!!!
Earth calling mobly, hello?
dizzyblonde
07-06-10, 03:54 PM
you don't need google maps! the truth is the route is up and down the N15 till you get dizzy!!!
Earth calling mobly, hello?
well in that case you will need google maps...I seem to recall the M62 is nearer to me;) Nice of someone to offer to get me:joker:
LOL - just holler, someone will drop by. M62 / N15 detour :p
northwind
07-06-10, 06:39 PM
Kilted, Northy, Tiger, Blue Flame, IP and me
Though I've had bugger all to do with it this time round due to being too lazy so it's been dumped on other people. There's no conspiracy, that's just the people who were most involved with previous years. If anyone wants to volunteer for next year I'm sure they'd be welcome ;)
Though I've had bugger all to do with it this time round due to being too lazy so it's been dumped on other people. There's no conspiracy, that's just the people who were most involved with previous years. If anyone wants to volunteer for next year I'm sure they'd be welcome ;)
booooo just spoil the fun :rolleyes:
northwind
08-06-10, 12:17 AM
Sorry. It's just less fun for some people than others...
Route will be appearing here shortly - promise!!!
appollo1
08-06-10, 03:07 PM
Route will be appearing here shortly - promise!!!
with all the bickering going here you have to add fuel to the fire by calling Bibio shortly!! ;)
well thats no truffles for you then!!! :smt065
with all the bickering going here you have to add fuel to the fire by calling Bibio shortly!! ;)
you bad man... now where did i put those embarrassing pictures of you that i got from your missus :D
Kilted Ginger
08-06-10, 05:36 PM
well thats no truffles for you then!!! :smt065
I'll think you'll find theres a waiting list for truffles, or has your gob been writing cheques your body cant cash again:smt017:rolleyes:
As Q says the route is done, just some polishing of regroup and fuel points before publication. It has been riden a few times by different folks now to check it out. There has been an assumption made that everybody can squeeze at least 100miles between fueling. If you cant please raise ur hand now, or at least speak to one of the marshalls on the day.
Also please be prepared for "assertive" marshalling, ie in order to complete the route and allow some freedom for optional sections the stops / regroups / refuels have to be quite slick. There will be "drop out points" for anyone not wanting to go any further, please make sure you let a marshall know and dont just dissapear.
Lastly 3 weeks to go so please make sure you have a rescue plan in place, rac, mate with van etc if the worst should happen u need to be able to get home. This is not a southern rideout with a town and garage every 10 miles (as those that have been before know)
Very lastly, the constabularly covering most of the route do not accept photocopies of documentation at the roadside and do not accept documentation sent through post, ie in the unlikely event you get pulled you have to turn up at their headquarters IN PERSON within 7 days with documents as one of our group found out last year.:spiderman:
Pardon me if I ask a silly question, but what exactly do you mean by documentation?
Just the drivers license?
Kilted Ginger
08-06-10, 05:57 PM
Pardon me if I ask a silly question, but what exactly do you mean by documentation?
Just the drivers license?
Sure one of our illustrious law enforcers will correct me but...
Drivers licence (plastic and paper)
Insurance
V5
Road tax (on bike)
I also carry an ice sheet with contact numbers, drug alergies and a living will
I know all can be checked electronically at the side of the road but the easier you make it the happier they'll be and a happy copper is a lenient copper....:smt028
Never thought I'll need the whole pack with me, usually ride only with my license. Good point:
I know all can be checked electronically at the side of the road but the easier you make it the happier they'll be and a happy copper is a lenient copper....:smt028
If you get pulled you can choose the station to take your documents to. They cant dictate (well every time Ive been pulled Ive always had the choice, normally pick the 1 nearest work)
I had better behave myself then - my license has been sent back to DVLA to have the photocard renewed, so I have only got a photcopy.
I had better behave myself then - my license has been sent back to DVLA to have the photocard renewed, so I have only got a photcopy.
Same here :(
Kilted Ginger
08-06-10, 06:19 PM
If you get pulled you can choose the station to take your documents to. They cant dictate (well every time Ive been pulled Ive always had the choice, normally pick the 1 nearest work)
sometimes, but only within that constabulary. Like i said we had someone last year who had to return to the area with his documents.
I will have ICE cards for everyone handed out and completed on Friday please! Just as peace of mind for me and worst case scenarios - means then you will always have one if you stick it in your leathers!!
I will have ICE cards for everyone handed out and completed on Friday please! Just as peace of mind for me and worst case scenarios - means then you will always have one if you stick it in your leathers!!
Already carry ours on us, leathers and bumbag. ICE details in a phone are all well and good, but phones can break.
punyXpress
08-06-10, 07:20 PM
I had better behave myself then - my license has been sent back to DVLA to have the photocard renewed, so I have only got a photcopy.
But is that the case when touring abroad? i.e. Scottland?
Remember we're guests up there & being clever aint er clever.
Quiff Wichard
08-06-10, 07:41 PM
me got me dog tags
The Guru
08-06-10, 08:18 PM
sometimes, but only within that constabulary. Like i said we had someone last year who had to return to the area with his documents.
Incorrect. You elect a Police station where you want to produce your documentation, not the Police Officer.
Milky Bar Kid
09-06-10, 01:53 AM
Incorrect. You elect a Police station where you want to produce your documentation, not the Police Officer.
Yep, this is correct. It doesn't have to be within that Constabulary either. You are right that documents asked for on a producer have to be handed into a station in person and not mailed though, but the person has the option to take the documents to THEIR nearest Police station.
Kilted Ginger
09-06-10, 05:33 AM
That was what i thought but Peter was defnately told that he HAD to take it to a specific station
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 07:37 AM
That was what i thought but Peter was defnately told that he HAD to take it to a specific station
Was that not to pay the fine and get his licence endorsed, KG? Can't properly remember myself :smt017.
Central have a bad habit of saying that though - I've been caught out wih it once. They do say it has to produced at one of their stations! ( but they are ?????)
peterco
09-06-10, 08:07 AM
That was what i thought but Peter was defnately told that he HAD to take it to a specific station
No,,I had to send my licence to the court in Lochgilphead,
So I went in person to Lochgilphead to pay the fine and get the licence endorsed.(I don't trust the post)
I tried to pay the fine in Alloa under the court unification system but Lochgilphead court is not in the system at that time.
pete
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 08:22 AM
Straight from the hardened criminals mouth ;)
Hope you're going to take it easy this time Peter :p
I forgot from GM1, and this may be useful for the thirstier bike owners, where are the closest petrol stations to the campsite or the drovers (starting point)?
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 09:44 AM
This thread is not for discussion - please keep that to the this (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=142834) thread.
Saturday Morning
10am (sharp) kick off from the Drovers Car park
This route is 106 miles - so everyone will need a full tank before starting (otherwise its Crieff before fuel) If you think you'll need to stop for fuel please let one of the marshalls know before we set off.
Because there is no petrol at the meet point peeps will need to fuel up prior to the run. I think the nearest station is at Tyndrum which is 11 miles away, so people will need at tank range of at least 120 miles. Our Duke does 140 to a tankful so it's quite fine even for us.
Paul the 6th
09-06-10, 09:51 AM
my light usually comes on at 100-110....
but I won't be thrashing it as I'll have a pillion :)
Petrol stations - Tyndrum 11 miles north, Arrochar 11 miles South or Lix Toll on route.(tell TEC if you need fuel on the day)
The best idea is to fill up at Dumbarton Gateway services on the A82 before getting to campsite.
Petrol Stations added to main post.
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 09:56 AM
my light usually comes on at 100-110....
but I won't be thrashing it as I'll have a pillion :)
Yes, but you'll use more fuel anyway two-up.
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 10:00 AM
Petrol stations - Tyndrum 11 miles north, Arrochar 11 miles South or Lix Toll on route.(tell TEC if yoou need fuel on the day)
The best idea is to fill up at Dumbarton Gateway services on the A82.
Dumbarton Gateway services is presumably in Dumbarton which is nearly 30 miles away!
Just for my own piece of mind I'll have to fill up at the one en-route I think.
Could be a good idea to nip up to Tyndrum to fill up once you've pitched your tent.
Dunno when the campsite pub opens (breakfast), so you could fill up and have a brekkie in Tyndrum in the morning, last years place was very good.
independentphoto
09-06-10, 10:19 AM
For those arriving from the North, fill at Tyndrum on way to camp. Coming from the South including Glasgow, it would be insurance to first in to Arrochar on the way up. This way most should have a generous fuel allowance for the start.
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 10:21 AM
Could be a good idea to nip up to Tyndrum to fill up once you've pitched your tent.
Dunno when the campsite pub opens (breakfast), so you could fill up and have a brekkie in Tyndrum in the morning, last years place was very good.
Tyndrum Lodge Hotel did a great 'All You Can Eat for a Fiver' brekkie. However their website for this year doesn't show it.
It should be noted that I do not intend to have half the bikers stopping at Lix Toll for petrol. This will stretch the group somewhat(even though there ain't many junctions) so Please ensure that you have as much of full tank as possible.
petevtwin650
09-06-10, 10:36 AM
It should be noted that I do not intend to have half the bikers stopping at Lix Toll for petrol. This will stretch the group somewhat(even though there ain't many junctions) so Please ensure that you have as much of full tank as possible.
Sorry Q, but a tank can only hold so much. Asking people to travel 120 miles one one fill-up might stress some. Riding on a rideout almost invariably uses more fuel than normal usage. Maybe those needing fuel could set off a few minutes early as Lix Toll is only 17 miles away. Re-fuel and then join the rideout as it passes.
Sorry Q, but a tank can only hold so much. Asking people to travel 120 miles one one fill-up might stress some. Riding on a rideout almost invariably uses more fuel than normal usage. Maybe those needing fuel could set off a few minutes early as Lix Toll is only 17 miles away. Re-fuel and then join the rideout as it passes.
the key word there is some!! I don't want this to be an excuse for most not to ensure they have enough fuel in the morning ie fill up the night before.
thats is a possiblity - its a moveable feast whose dynamic will change up until the morning when the final decision will need to be made
The Guru
09-06-10, 12:03 PM
This help anyone? (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=100923713875077642631.0004889667425481fcb22&ll=56.477662,-4.270935&spn=0.332942,1.40625&t=h&z=10)
if i can make this and i hope to... then i will need to stop for fuel on the route :(
if i can make this and i hope to... then i will need to stop for fuel on the route :(
don't worry as long as we know who needs to thats the main prob
independentphoto
09-06-10, 12:58 PM
There are several fuel stations on the route but we need people to be organised instead of disappearing between the main stops just because they had enough for another X miles. Don't worry about it.
northwind
09-06-10, 01:00 PM
Filling up at Arrochar on the road up, the night before, is a good option- it's a slight diversion but not far at all, only about 5 minutes- you just turn left at the Tarbet Hotel onto the A83 instead of right onto the A82. It's just over 10 miles from there to the campsite/starting point. For most people it's the best choice unless you're coming from the North of course, it's the closest southwards and it's not hard to find at all.
Oh! Helpfully this junction (A82/A83 at Tarbet) and all the road around is on Google Streetview so you can, if you like, check out the exact locations of the campsite, the petrol station, everything. Mint!
The Dumbarton services are a proper big station with food and drink as well and bang on the road to the north but as Pete says, further away. But don't worry mate, you get more miles per tank out of a diesel. The Alexandria ones are surprisingly hard to find so I wouldn't recommend that myself.
I think the only issue here is that the disorganised people who'll have about 20 miles left in their tank are the exact same people who'll turn up at the last second before the rideout starts. That's what happened on GM1, which is why GM2 started right beside a petrol station! But not an option here. Aargh, it was 2 years ago I had to worry about all this stuff and I still remember :)
stuartyboy
09-06-10, 02:02 PM
Is there a day 2 route?
Blue Flame
09-06-10, 03:13 PM
Is there a day 2 route?
The route posted is the sat morning route. there is a sat afternoon and a sunday route
yup stuarty - day 2 route as well
I got called from desk so will try to post them when i get back home - sorry for the delay folks!!
-Ralph-
09-06-10, 04:10 PM
Is there a day 2 route?
Thought you weren't coming ;)
stuartyboy
09-06-10, 04:12 PM
Thought you weren't coming ;)
In the biblical sense?
Sorry Q, but a tank can only hold so much. Asking people to travel 120 miles one one fill-up might stress some. Riding on a rideout almost invariably uses more fuel than normal usage. Maybe those needing fuel could set off a few minutes early as Lix Toll is only 17 miles away. Re-fuel and then join the rideout as it passes.
It should be noted we pass Lix Toll twice. For the morning run it might be an idea for the likes of you, me and the rest on low tank range IF your fuel light is on at Lix Toll to fill there on the return leg. The rest will be stopping at Tyndrum to do the same anyway so they'll not need to be waiting at Lix. Those that stop there for a top up. The second pass of Lix Toll is 15miles before Tyndrum, so a decent bit less to stretch the tankful.
Plus, the next fuel stop is not such a long stretch, 80 something miles from Tyndrum or 100ish from Lix, so still manageable without panic if filling there.
Quiff Wichard
10-06-10, 05:19 PM
or get a viffer ... 240 miles to a tank..
500 the way I ride.
Hmmmmmm.
:smt017......................
... Oh, i know! :idea:...
I'll take a tube and syphon fuel from your portable oiltanker!
Kind Regards,
Haggis the Petrolthief. :smt077
Dicky Ticker
10-06-10, 06:40 PM
Haggis----Being a true Scotsman I would have thought it would be more along the lines of where is cheapest;)
Just having spent ten days in these there parts the fuel seemed to vary from 116.9 to 129.9 and the Green Welly is not that cheap but whats a few quid when you are having fun
ENJOY--ENJOY--ENJOY
I really like the look of these routes thanks :)
buckstone
10-06-10, 08:26 PM
Since I don't know any other SV'ers other than Haggis (and I've not seen him for a couple of years), this is the ideal time to put that right. If anyone fancies company on the road up from Ayrshire on the Saturday morning, let me know .....
-Ralph-
10-06-10, 08:32 PM
276 mile day on the Saturday! Wow!
Good job I'm not riding because my shoulder and knee is getting more painful by the day not better. I don't think at the moment I'd make it round.
Now I'm sure it was a slip of the mouse ;) but if it wasn't :o Why is Sundays run going to Drum after Glendevon :smt017
petevtwin650
10-06-10, 09:45 PM
It should be noted we pass Lix Toll twice. For the morning run it might be an idea for the likes of you, me and the rest on low tank range IF your fuel light is on at Lix Toll to fill there on the return leg. The rest will be stopping at Tyndrum to do the same anyway so they'll not need to be waiting at Lix. Those that stop there for a top up. The second pass of Lix Toll is 15miles before Tyndrum, so a decent bit less to stretch the tankful.
Plus, the next fuel stop is not such a long stretch, 80 something miles from Tyndrum or 100ish from Lix, so still manageable without panic if filling there.
Now that is a good idea Haggis:thumright:
Stop there on the second pass, and the rest of the group can head to Tyndrum, then we won't need to fill up until the designated afternoon fill up.:)
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