GM3 Route ideas and discussion [Archive] - SV650.org

Nelson

08-11-09, 01:59 PM

but never had to cross over the Kingston Bridge so that doesn't wash with me,neither does a lowland venue.

If you're dismissing the Border region ("Lowlands" is such a typical Southerner term) because of the mere fact its not the Highlands, then you're a complete chump ;) There's some fantastic places and rides around here. Steve Hislop didn't have to leave the area to enjoy them.

http://www.motorcyclescotland.co.uk/motorcycle-images/VeiwOverStMarysLoch-clintsmith.jpg

http://www.motorcyclescotland.co.uk/motorcycle-images/bikersinvalley-clintsmith.jpg

http://www.motorcyclescotland.co.uk/motorcycle-images/bikersonroad-clintsmith.jpg

Keilder and Northumbria National Park isn't far away either.

It's accessable to everyone, considering its only a weekend - less time travelling is more time riding.

Dicky Ticker

09-11-09, 10:23 AM

Trying to be constructive--------------
Location--PITLOCHRY,plenty of campsite facilities in the area with lodges,caravans,camping or hostels
Day one rideout
Available roads----------- A924Bridge of Cally -A93 Glen Shee-Braemar[Queenies Hoose]-Banchory-B974-A90[about 12miles of fast dual carriageway to play catch-up]-A94-Coupar Angus-Scone[Stone of Destiny
so you can all be crowned Kings and Queens of the road]-A9-back to Pitlochry.
Day two rideout
A9[5-6miles]Ballinluig-A827-Killin[Falls of Dochart]-A85-A84-Kilmahog-A821
Loch Katrine[Oldest working steam ship]
This leads on to the Dukes Pass to Aberfoyle[Lake of Menteith,only Lake inScotland where Mary Queen of Scots was kept prisoner] but if you don't want to do it you can double back and meet in the square at Callander.A84-A820-Dumblane-A9[Couple of miles]A822-Braco-A822-Glen Almond-Strath Braan- Dunkeld-then back on the A9 to Pitlochry

Plenty to see and do and MOSTof the roads not covered by previous trips
and loads of places enroute for organised tea stops.

My 2p worth

Bibio

14-11-09, 03:06 PM

lets have it all.......

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=tyndrum&daddr=A827%2FBank+St+to:Pitlochry,+Perthshire,+Uni ted+Kingdom+to:braemar+to:speybridge+to:Fort+Willi am,+Inverness-Shire,+United+Kingdom+to:B863%2FLochaber+Rd+to:tyn drum&hl=en&geocode=FSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg%3BFTTwXwMdTAPF_w%3BFXBAYQMdrgnH_ym xa-dVkQKGSDF-QBA0KRGWgA%3BFWjXZQMdCCfM_ynD0-npWOSFSDFNeoNqkRaN1w%3BFfmTagMdXhDJ_ynFYmvp_o2FSDH AWd93HGgMCg%3BFW78YgMdZwiy_ykbAxw3IzOJSDEhSFQI4z6g zQ%3BFRxhYQMdUkW0_w%3BFSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg&mra=mr&mrcr=0&via=1,6&sll=56.562888,-4.194717&sspn=0.290578,0.891953&ie=UTF8&ll=56.904503,-4.213257&spn=1.151821,3.56781&z=9

looks a huge run but its not that bad, mileage is what i would do on a sunday run, stops every 50-70 miles. estimate with stops about 8-9 hours.

also why look for a new venue when last years was so good?

dyzio

15-11-09, 12:21 AM

I like the look of that ride out. It looks massive, but certainly do-able.
Well Done! :thumbsup:
Aye, that is nice, but how about this?
(http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=tyndrum&daddr=A85%2FPerth+Rd+to:A822+to:A93%2FPerth+St+to: 56.779818,-3.430481+to:braemar+to:speybridge+to:Fort+William, +Inverness-Shire,+United+Kingdom+to:B863%2FLochaber+Rd+to:tyn drum&geocode=FSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg%3BFY5JXAMdxpzF_w%3BFbHdXQMdz_7F_w% 3BFXyAXwMddgPN_w%3B%3BFWjXZQMdCCfM_ynD0-npWOSFSDFNeoNqkRaN1w%3BFfmTagMdXhDJ_ynFYmvp_o2FSDH AWd93HGgMCg%3BFW78YgMdZwiy_ykbAxw3IzOJSDEhSFQI4z6g zQ%3BFRxhYQMdUkW0_w%3BFSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0,1&mrsp=4&sz=9&via=1,2,3,8&sll=56.538287,-3.710632&sspn=1.090396,2.469177&ie=UTF8&z=9)
And The Duke's Pass... :smt077:smt047

Bibio

15-11-09, 01:50 AM

Aye, that is nice, but how about this?
(http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=tyndrum&daddr=A85%2FPerth+Rd+to:A822+to:A93%2FPerth+St+to: 56.779818,-3.430481+to:braemar+to:speybridge+to:Fort+William, +Inverness-Shire,+United+Kingdom+to:B863%2FLochaber+Rd+to:tyn drum&geocode=FSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg%3BFY5JXAMdxpzF_w%3BFbHdXQMdz_7F_w% 3BFXyAXwMddgPN_w%3B%3BFWjXZQMdCCfM_ynD0-npWOSFSDFNeoNqkRaN1w%3BFfmTagMdXhDJ_ynFYmvp_o2FSDH AWd93HGgMCg%3BFW78YgMdZwiy_ykbAxw3IzOJSDEhSFQI4z6g zQ%3BFRxhYQMdUkW0_w%3BFSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0,1&mrsp=4&sz=9&via=1,2,3,8&sll=56.538287,-3.710632&sspn=1.090396,2.469177&ie=UTF8&z=9)
And The Duke's Pass... :smt077:smt047

yup, i had a think about that route as well dyzio but i settled on the one i posted as it would only require 2 petrol stops each at about 120 miles. plus i have tried to cater for everyone so nothing too taxing for inexperienced riders.

pete, yes the road from speybridge to newtonmore/ish is pretty boring but there is no way round it unless you want to take the old road and add more time to the journey. its a bit long a route as it is and depending on weather could be more of a task than a pleasure (i personally think the glencoe road is the most boring part of the route but thats me)

its all pie in the sky just now and my route is only a suggestion, the final decision will no doubt be with the organisers to decide.

on a small note, there has been a couple of comments about my route but not about me saying to use the same accommodation as last year. personally i think we would be hard pushed to find a better venue. ok so there was no on-site pub or restaurant, but what was nice was the one big group of orgers having a good time instead of a fragmented group which would happen if everyone were in different locations/inn's/hotels.

yes the GM is about the chance for the southern peeps to get to ride our roads and look at the pretty mountains, but for us haggis munchers its about getting to know southern forum members, as has been said, we can go and ride these roads any time we like (and we do). us scots like a natter and a bevy so the get together HAS to include this to.

my 2p's worth.......... Lance

Tiger 55

15-11-09, 10:38 AM

The only obvious problem I can see is the road to Fort William is a bit pants IIRC plus obviously going through FW itself. I suppose the Corran Ferry isn't an option?

pete, yes the road from speybridge to newtonmore/ish is pretty boring but there is no way round it unless you want to take the old road and add more time to the journey.
I think we're talking about two different bits of road here, with Pete meaning the Loch Linne stretch between Onich and Fort William, in which case the road is pants and the Corran Ferry might very well be an option.

True, it's wee and there's lots of us but if (no small if) we can get over in two crossings then that's only 20 minutes apart. Declared interest - I am on record as saying every rideout should have a ferry trip in it. :)
Worth thinking about though. Ft Bill might make a good meal stop too, certainly they've got the parking space. Hmm.
you have to admit, Crief to Blairgowrie is awersome :) :D
True, but then it's all pretty awersome, it's Scotland. ;)

carelesschucca

29-11-09, 11:49 AM

Don't want to put a dampner on things (as i'm not here that often) but for a ride out with as many people as this its best to keep the overall mileage down around the 200 mark at the max. there's no hassle for the main pack but trying to organise and lead a route thats longer becomes a nightmare.

The First GM ended up taking way too long and half of the group ended up giving up and going back to the campsite. the rest that didn't were on the road for 11 hours (a tad too much)

I'm not saying the Braemar routes ain't do able but with 50 odd people we'll end up getting spread out. we've also got to take worst case situations into account. and the times that things take when there are large amounts of people at varying levels.

Being honest though I'll ride any route were given...

pod

16-12-09, 04:11 PM

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=tyndrum&daddr=A85%2FPerth+Rd+to:A822+to:A93%2FPerth+St+to: 56.779818,-3.430481+to:braemar+to:speybridge+to:Fort+William, +Inverness-Shire,+United+Kingdom+to:B863%2FLochaber+Rd+to:tyn drum&geocode=FSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg%3BFY5JXAMdxpzF_w%3BFbHdXQMdz_7F_w% 3BFXyAXwMddgPN_w%3B%3BFWjXZQMdCCfM_ynD0-npWOSFSDFNeoNqkRaN1w%3BFfmTagMdXhDJ_ynFYmvp_o2FSDH AWd93HGgMCg%3BFW78YgMdZwiy_ykbAxw3IzOJSDEhSFQI4z6g zQ%3BFRxhYQMdUkW0_w%3BFSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0,1&mrsp=4&sz=9&via=1,2,3,8&sll=56.538287,-3.710632&sspn=1.090396,2.469177&ie=UTF8&z=9

400 miles of joy, with a ferry trip abandoning all at inverness or Tyndrum

northwind

08-01-10, 01:01 AM

For contrast, last year's was 169 miles (though quite a few of them slow miles) and when you run it in google maps would take only 5 hours

The year before was 224 miles and 5 hours 10 by google time, including the duke's pass. That's the shortened version that we had to switch to after it was obvious that the long one wouldn't get us home til late, and a lot of people had dropped out early.

I'd say, I hope this doesn't sound negative, but I think these are mostly just too long for a big group. Even if we really work on the stops and getting things rolling smoothly, it takes time to get 50 people on the road- and things will go wrong, you've got to have a route that can deal with disruption.

As far as location, I'd like to take it north, if only because I don't think we can beat last year's route otherwise, and we'll have to reuse old roads. I don't know the roads up north as well though. Totally agree with Pete and/or Lissa, if people have come this far then we should make the most of it.

The borders are brilliant but I think we've always ruled them out since so many people can hit them up in a day from the north of england, and the north/south rideout if it happens covers the same ground. If people feel otherwise then pipe up, but I think it's proved to be a good way to work.

But, as a guideline I'd say you want no more than 5 hours out of google maps (which works out fairly accurate compared to a big group's pace, weirdly enough) Though, don't take that as divine law or anything ;) If we reckon we can make a longer ride work, then we should do it. The whole kinlochleven/aviemore/boat of garten/lecht/glenshee/loch tay route looks awesome to me. Ski resort tour :D But it's big with only one chance to shorten it, and not much option to vary it really.

Also, if you're posting routes try and think about stops, especially lunch. And some plan Bs- a route which can be shortened or altered on the fly in case of roadworks, bad weather, etc is definately good.

Bibio

10-01-10, 02:03 PM

same as last year but with some added fun.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=A85+to:A821+to:A811+to:inveraray+to:lochgilp head+to:oban+to:A82+to:kinlochleven+to:tyndrum&hl=en&geocode=FViKWwMdVga4_w%3BFbA1XQMdsG-9_w%3BFXHwWQMdfre8_w%3BFRR5VgMdYt-5_w%3BFbECWgMdLZOy_ynNfirCsQyJSDFXylzbWOgFYg%3BFb4 WVwMdLhut_ylfxD6lk3iJSDEv_1bqYhrRTQ%3BFSrBXAMd5Yms _ynB8d3S0EGJSDE3wo-B_0rdgw%3BFXYHYQMdSuyw_w%3BFR5fYQMdSzy0_ymb90KTEC6 JSDGEF3qe6tWDEQ%3B&mra=ls&via=2,7&sll=56.471973,-4.878616&sspn=0.280276,0.891953&ie=UTF8&ll=56.565536,-4.946594&spn=1.118344,3.56781&z=9

Bibio

10-01-10, 07:11 PM

ethariel

10-01-10, 11:07 PM

Just as an aside, have a look at

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html

I used to use this map when I lived up north to halp me anticipate the Aurora.

Colin

Davadvice

08-02-10, 08:54 PM

and another:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=tyndrum&daddr=A828+to:North+Ballachulish,+Onich,+Fort+Will iam,+Inverness-Shire,+United+Kingdom+to:A82+to:A861+to:56.79035,-5.777435+to:A82+to:kinlochleven+to:A85&hl=en&geocode=FSEgXQMddSW4_ymlLnMfth-JSDHQzN93HGgMCg%3BFURzXgMdOM6u_w%3BFZwYYQMdnfGw_yl D7_osQjaJSDEwVbw2np4eaA%3BFU4DYwMdPw6y_w%3BFXxjYwM dSpew_w%3B%3BFdT2YgMd9vmx_w%3BFR5fYQMdSzy0_ymb90KT EC6JSDGEF3qe6tWDEQ%3BFUMxXQMdpO-3_w&mra=dme&mrcr=2,3&mrsp=5&sz=10&via=1,4&sll=56.742181,-5.39566&sspn=0.556555,1.783905&ie=UTF8&ll=56.695458,-5.457458&spn=1.1145,3.56781&z=9

that route looks really good, done some of they roads my self and they are good but give a bit of variety for me. the first ones i have done a few times.

the dukes pass has been mentioned a few times and a great road but last year it realy could have been doing with a good hoover the stones on the road where shocking. i done it on my KH125 and the ER5 and the concentration was a bit much.

The run to oban is ecelent going via loghiphead(spelling)

what about a wee run up the 82 to see the monster?

Tiger 55

09-02-10, 08:04 AM

what about a wee run up the 82 to see the monster?
Difficult to get up there without covering a lot of ground twice, using the A9 to come back or catching a ferry is why. Not a problem for the Sunday runners heading to Skye though...

yorkie_chris

03-05-10, 09:54 AM

Lot of roads up there I don't mind doing twice at all :-D

-Ralph-

03-05-10, 10:09 AM

Difficult to get up there without covering a lot of ground twice, using the A9 to come back or catching a ferry is why. Not a problem for the Sunday runners heading to Skye though...

Lot of roads up there I don't mind doing twice at all :-D

It's the main artery north from the West of Scotland, it's about 3 million feet wide, corners are no steeper than your average boomerang, and it'll be full of caravans. If you want to end up squaring off your tyres down the centre line at 100mph 'cos your so bored, head up towards Loch Ness. I'll spend my biking weekend in Scotland doing decent roads, and see you in the evening. :)

Great scenery though.

yorkie_chris

03-05-10, 10:24 AM

Lol fair enough

Quedos

03-05-10, 10:41 AM

Interesting thoughts on routes. - i don't think you'll be disappointed with the ones we have picked

Lissa

03-05-10, 11:45 AM

Interesting thoughts on routes. - i don't think you'll be disappointed with the ones we have picked

Google linky please!!!!:D

Quedos

03-05-10, 12:25 PM

No linky just yet - going to keep you in suspense a litt longer

-Ralph-

03-05-10, 12:39 PM

No linky just yet - going to keep you in suspense a litt longer

You just love power don't you Abs ;-)

Quedos

03-05-10, 12:46 PM

You just love power don't you Abs ;-)

I do Gawd help you lot on the weekend. I shall brandished my hi viz like nothing on earth!!

-Ralph-

03-05-10, 02:41 PM

I do Gawd help you lot on the weekend. I shall brandished my hi viz like nothing on earth!!

:smt046 at my own thoughts :smt077

Anyone else fancy doing the complete opposite to every instruction Abby gives on the day? It'll drive her nuts! :p

yorkie_chris

03-05-10, 02:58 PM

All of a sudden crashing doesn't seem like the worst thing that could happen :-P

orose

03-05-10, 03:00 PM

Count me out of that, because she'll mention not crashing :p

Quedos

03-05-10, 03:45 PM

:smt046 at my own thoughts :smt077

Anyone else fancy doing the complete opposite to every instruction Abby gives on the day? It'll drive her nuts! :p

See now you said that - it won't bother me. At the end of the day you all ride for yourselves the group have just worked out the route that everyone is taken ( GAWD I have been brainwashed by IAM):tongue:

-Ralph-

03-05-10, 04:06 PM

I do Gawd help you lot on the weekend. I shall brandished my hi viz like nothing on earth!!

At the end of the day you all ride for yourselves

See the change? There was method in my madness ;)

yorkie_chris

03-05-10, 05:40 PM

I am looking forward to a weekend of steady and sensible, fuel efficient riding :)

missyburd

03-05-10, 06:01 PM

I am looking forward to a weekend of steady and sensible, fuel efficient riding :)
that workload is blatently getting to you, poor thing :p I'll be someone else's pillion I think...

Know you're just kidding....right? :shock:

yorkie_chris

03-05-10, 06:03 PM

Dead serious, that's why I bought some race brake discs, sticky tyres and oversize rear sprocket :)

sunny

03-05-10, 06:38 PM

See now you said that - it won't bother me. At the end of the day you all ride for yourselves the group have just worked out the route that everyone is taken ( GAWD I have been brainwashed by IAM):tongue:

LOL (nervous laughter) - now i am scared #-o

Quiff Wichard

12-05-10, 06:52 PM

is the route being linked abs or pm'd ??? just in case anyone spying and gonna ambush us all

AndyBrad

21-05-10, 12:16 PM

So just out of curiosity how many miles should i expect to cover on this weekend? Only wondering if i will need to invest in some new tyers or something?

JamesMio

21-05-10, 12:24 PM

I think the actual GMIII route will be well under 200 (if I remember correctly).

We did a week's tour of Scotland last summer and covered just under 1000 miles.

Blue Flame

21-05-10, 12:51 PM

I think the actual GMIII route will be well under 200 (if I remember correctly).

I wouldn't assume that at all if I were you ;)

punyXpress

21-05-10, 01:02 PM

2005 miles last year, but was egged on to do more & faster miles later in the week ( thank goodness)

yorkie_chris

21-05-10, 02:42 PM

So just out of curiosity how many miles should i expect to cover on this weekend? Only wondering if i will need to invest in some new tyers or something?

MYC and I did 1200 miles last year staying up there until the Wednesday or so.

petevtwin650

21-05-10, 03:02 PM

So just out of curiosity how many miles should i expect to cover on this weekend? Only wondering if i will need to invest in some new tyers or something?

If you're not sure about your tyres then I would be inclined to change them or the rear. The roads are abrasive and if we do have a run in with the law, not that we have yet, then that'll be the thing that will wind them up IMO. Plus it might hamper your enjoyment as the pace hots up. Not that it does of course.

This is Tilt's tyre on the way back from GM I. He had to find a replacement before completing his journey

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/org%20posts/1org.jpg

AndyBrad

21-05-10, 03:24 PM

Should be ok then as im going up on the fri and back on the sunday. Tyers curently have about 3mm on them so should be alright im guessing?

yorkie_chris

21-05-10, 03:26 PM

Not making definitive comment either way, but berlin found those tyres to wear very rapidly towards end.

-Ralph-

21-05-10, 05:24 PM

You just need to remember that it's a 580 mile round trip there and back from Brighouse. Then on the Saturday you'll probably do 250 miles, and on the Sunday if you join in another rideout, probably another 150. So min 1000 miles in the weekend, that's 1/4 of the life of a sports touring tyre, and could be as much as 1/2 the life of a sports tyre. The majority of those miles will be motorway squaring the tyres off in the centre, unless like I normally do, you take a 10 hour cross country route.

petevtwin650

21-05-10, 05:51 PM

-Ralph-

21-05-10, 07:14 PM

Good points made by both YC and Ralph.

What I would love to do is use my current tyres to get up to Glasgae and then have some new tyres put on, but that ain't gonna happen, so we'll be running up and squaring off new rubber :smt088. Might get a chance to re-profile them once we head onto the fun roads though :p

There's enough local knowledge in the SV Ecosse section to make that a reality Pete.

JamesMio or Miky Bar Kid could probably recommend a tyre place in the borders around Carlisle somewhere where and you could get tyres ordered and bike booked in for 4:30pm on the Friday, leave there by 5:30 and I'll plan you a twisty route to Inverarnan that will have your tyres scrubbed in by the time you get to the campsite before 8pm. You'd need to leave Rugby at lunchtime.

JamesMio

21-05-10, 07:24 PM

Easy, happy to help if needs be Pete.

stuartyboy

23-05-10, 09:59 AM

Tyers curently have about 3mm on them so should be alright im guessing?

I'd guess on getting them changed before you come up if I were you.

stuartyboy

23-05-10, 10:01 AM

that's 1/4 of the life of a sports touring tyre,

It's the 1.5 times the life of a BT016 rear.

-Ralph-

23-05-10, 10:03 AM

It's the 1.5 times the life of a BT016 rear.

It is with you doing burnouts on it! :p

haggis

23-05-10, 11:05 AM

I am looking forward to a weekend of steady and sensible, fuel efficient riding :)

YC, are you feeling ok? :smt017

yorkie_chris

23-05-10, 11:07 AM

Think I sobered up there for a moment actually... sorted now.

3+ teeth rear sprocket ordered, brain removed :)

haggis

23-05-10, 11:12 AM

For a moment i thought you'd swapped the SV for a mobility scooter or sumthin!
Glad you're back with us.

So, back to the route. Any chance of a preview now MissQ? :D

petevtwin650

23-05-10, 08:57 PM

Easy, happy to help if needs be Pete.

Cheers James, but the rear has pretty much used up all it's rubber this weekend so getting up to you guys on it is no longer an option.

Appreciate the offer though :thumbsup:

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 08:37 AM

interesting. the tyers are viper sports. i wonder if i would be better swaping them for storms? am i really going to kill them over that weekend? could do with the 200 quid in my pocket?

petevtwin650

24-05-10, 08:47 AM

interesting. the tyers are viper sports. i wonder if i would be better swaping them for storms? am i really going to kill them over that weekend? could do with the 200 quid in my pocket?

Well you've got a couple of weeks until you need to make a decision, so I'd be checking the tyres almost daily and seeing how quickly, or not, they're wearing.

Think how gutted you'd feel if you couldn't do the rideout, and remember, even if they do last you'll have to replace them on your return, so you're only putting off spending 200 quid for a week or so anyway. Also worn tyres do have a tendency to pick up punctures more easily, IMO. Wilds of Scotland with a flat doesn't sound fun. No guarantees either way of course.

dizzyblonde

24-05-10, 08:50 AM

Andy don't dally about over tyres. You already have doubts, and TBH the Viper Sports aren't geared up for a tour of Scotland, if they are already rapidly disappearing. Get some Storms on, your confidence will go up no end.
And get the damn thing over here, so we can iron out your feelings about the bike itself. We're in Tues and Weds this week, and once Petes home from Scotland after the weekend, hes got the entire week off including the first weekend in June. Make sure your visit to Scotland starts off positive....so you can have fun and carefree miles!

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 08:54 AM

aye i was just thinking 3mm left on the rear (2.5 on the front) is roughly half of the tyre? so i had thourgth i hed plenty left and now im not so sure?

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 08:56 AM

aye im just waiting on a couple of bits comming from ebay that i won last night. Just a little fun with a hole saw and ill give you a call as it will be all fixed. managed to get the scratches out of the tank last night so im happy with that!

Quiff Wichard

24-05-10, 08:57 AM

listen to Diz and pete Andy- they make sense .. and with respect - they been biking longer than you matey .

£200 in your pocket..? it is your life.. the rubber is the only thing keeping you on the road. The weekend costing more than £200 would be ruined too if you had to spend a day waiting for recovery and then finding a tyre dealer who wud rip you off cos they know you have no other option.. then you would have to have whatever tyre they had in stock on..

plus you could get 3 points by the sunday on way home for low tread. //

make sense? I know it does cos me n luckypants had exactly the same convo yesterday when he was at mine and we looked at my rear which I was hoping to make last scotland.. Mike said it needs changing NOW. so .. bite the bullet and £200 FOR SOME STORMS and now I have made that decision I know I will enjoy scotland more knowing that the rubber under me is good..

if you doin the slab on the way up too andy that extra little bit of tread u have will be gone before you get to good roads..

Luckypants

24-05-10, 09:10 AM

aye i was just thinking 3mm left on the rear (2.5 on the front) is roughly half of the tyre? so i had thourgth i hed plenty left and now im not so sure?

Andy I've got about 3mm left on my rear Storm Ultra and I'm thinking hard about whether to fit a new tyre for Scotland. With softer compound Vipers it would be a no brainer, change it. For me it depends on the number of miles I do in next month. TBH I'm already thinking along the lines of JamesMio's suggestion of getting the tyre changed in Glasgow or thereabouts.

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 09:15 AM

aye group buy on tyers :)

-Ralph-

24-05-10, 10:53 AM

interesting. the tyers are viper sports. am i really going to kill them over that weekend?

Yes

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 11:00 AM

holy crap! i didnt realise that i figured that with about half of the tyre life remaining i would have been ok

right then.

storm ultra or vp2's? anone want a half used set of viper sprts?

dizzyblonde

24-05-10, 12:57 PM

Storms. They'll give you a hell of a lot of confidence. They stick to the road like glue, even in snow. Now if the Ultras are anything like, you'll be grinning for weeks after the GM :-)

Bibio

24-05-10, 01:21 PM

ultra sticky tyres are good if you get the weather. but its scotland it rains at the flick of a switch up here.

get the storms m8 they are cracking tyres.

BTW, Strathern tyres in Crieff are a good if you pre book. that way you wont have to go threw the centre of glasgow and you will have a cracking road to scrub them on going to the campsite plus you will have squared off your old set coming up and not your nice new set.

Strathearn Tyres
http://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/Strathearn-Tyres

Rout to campsite from Crieff
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Crieff,+Perthshire,+UK&daddr=56.330687,-4.716936&hl=en&geocode=CWdIF5zRQUUZFe0wXAMdEFzF_ymvCcBDTiaGSDFXiK isCzg-Jg%3B&mra=mi&mrsp=1&sz=16&sll=56.331338,-4.71365&sspn=0.008803,0.027874&ie=UTF8&ll=56.325675,-4.33548&spn=0.563476,1.783905&z=10

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 02:43 PM

that seems like a good idea really.... slightly concerned about starting a rideout with fresh rubber tho.

Bibio

24-05-10, 03:36 PM

that seems like a good idea really.... slightly concerned about starting a rideout with fresh rubber tho.

dont be. the storms are good to go straight from the fitters :D. people rave about them on the SV for a good reason.

BTW the GM is not a race its a ride out, there are all paces in different groups. from bimble to missile with the main pack being 'moderately' paced.

AndyBrad

24-05-10, 03:42 PM

aye still might get them fitted the week i go. give them a couple of days to settle and sort pressures etc. so any links to where we are going?

stuartyboy

24-05-10, 04:24 PM

Personally I would change tyres before I came up.

I'm presuming that you will be riding between now and the GMIII as per normal. If so then it is highly unlikely that you will still have 3mm.

As Bibio says you could ride up, see how you tyres are and if in doubt get a change at Strathearn Tyres in crieff. They are open till 5 on Friday and 12.30 on Saturday and they're on the way to the campsite if you come up via crieff.

stuartyboy

24-05-10, 04:25 PM

It is with you doing burnouts on it! :p

Stoppies!!! ;)

mattSV

24-05-10, 05:16 PM

I have found that the last few mm of a tyre seem to wear much quicker than the first few the hard way. When I did the first north/south meet a few years ago, I thought my tyres would be fine. After riding 300 miles up to the lake district, the rear was starting to look very dodgy. After another 300 miles of caning it around some great roads they were completely shagged. I had to take it easy for the last bit of the day, and then got a puncture in the rear on the way back to the hotel.

Managed to fix it, and nurse it the 300 miles back home, however it meant I could only do 60-70 mph and it would have cost me if I had got pulled.

I have just put a brand new set of Storm Ultra2s on my sprint ready for GMIII and would definitely recommend that you do the same ;)

Quedos

25-05-10, 12:22 PM

so any links to where we are going?

Not yet until the group have ran the route to ensure adequate stopping/regrouping points etc etc

BIGSTEVE

25-05-10, 03:53 PM

4 weeks, 2 days and counting!!!!!!!

Quedos

26-05-10, 08:05 AM

Thanks BIGSTEVE!!!

oh dear what have we created

stuartyboy

27-05-10, 11:39 AM

Not yet until the group have ran the route to ensure adequate stopping/regrouping points etc etc

And what if there's not enough stopping/regrouping points? The group had better get cracking because theres only 4 weeks to go.

AndyBrad

27-05-10, 12:02 PM

im getting excited :) and a little nervous :)

Quedos

27-05-10, 01:02 PM

And what if there's not enough stopping/regrouping points? The group had better get cracking because theres only 4 weeks to go.

4 weeks you can do a lot with
and if there's not enough points there's not enough points means it will be longer than ideally wished - but hey we're all adults I'm sure we can cope with it:cool:

-Ralph-

27-05-10, 01:03 PM

4 weeks you can do a lot with
and if there's not enough points there's not enough points means it will be longer than ideally wished - but hey we're all adults I'm sure we can cope with it:cool:

Think of the newbies man! Think of the newbies :p

Quedos

27-05-10, 01:06 PM

Ralph I am believe me I am. I honestly think there is nothing to worry about
I think you'll enjoy it and I'm sure with a few tow ropes and extra petrol cans we'll make it past the wee sticking point there is at the moment:p

dizzyblonde

27-05-10, 01:24 PM

I've decided, its no good, not at all, so the only thing you can do is move this whole rideout back a few weeks, to say middle of July, then I can come up in the car!

Lissa

27-05-10, 04:35 PM

I've decided, its no good, not at all, so the only thing you can do is move this whole rideout back a few weeks, to say middle of July, then I can come up in the car!

B*gger off, Blondie! I've waited long enough for this holiday, I ain't waiting another month! :p

Bri w

27-05-10, 04:52 PM

I've decided, its no good, not at all, so the only thing you can do is move this whole rideout back a few weeks, to say middle of July, then I can come up in the car!

I've even got the bike booked into Mucky Moira's Massage Parlour next week for a good rub down with a lettuce, not to mention oil/filters etc.

Besides I'll be expected to go with SWMBO to see the Osmonds/Bay City Rollers/David Essex/Leo Sayer if I haven't got anything booked for the 27th June - PLEASE don't make me go!!!!

AndyBrad

28-05-10, 09:48 AM

whats SWMBO? and yea come on i mean how hard can it be to pop up on your rappy? put some effort in woman!

-Ralph-

28-05-10, 10:19 AM

whats SWMBO? and yea come on i mean how hard can it be to pop up on your rappy? put some effort in woman!

She who must be obeyed

Quedos

28-05-10, 01:06 PM

whats SWMBO? and yea come on i mean how hard can it be to pop up on your rappy? put some effort in woman!

she'll be putting effort in!! just not on the rappy
hey Dizz - just look after yersel - you can come up later and stay at mine

stuartyboy

02-06-10, 09:03 PM

Sally

03-06-10, 11:55 AM

So are we any nearer or are we getting told on the night before the rideout?

Do you want to live?

If yes then don't ask questions about the route :-({|=

The Guru

03-06-10, 01:08 PM

:smt018

To paraphrase a famous movie quote "The first rule of the GM III is you do not talk about the GM III route"

:smt075

Quedos

03-06-10, 08:14 PM

I rode it today and its great!

stuartyboy

06-06-10, 10:10 AM

I rode it today and its great!

The route is the only reason I'm holding back from going and I've no idea why its taking so long or what the big secret is.

Paul the 6th

06-06-10, 11:34 AM

dizzyblonde

06-06-10, 11:48 AM

Yeah but Paul...once shes on...are you going to stop and let her get off??

Paul the 6th

06-06-10, 12:34 PM

well that's just it diz - I can't let her get away now I've found her lol...

We did about 30-40 mins last night and she said she could feel her bum starting to go a bit numb/achey. Tempted to try and find some gel inserts and try recovering the seat maybe?

it's all part of the case to get her on her own two wheels though :)

Bibio

06-06-10, 12:59 PM

combatfred

06-06-10, 04:13 PM

Under 3 weeks to go! Woo-hoo!

But................when are we being told the route?

stuartyboy

06-06-10, 05:48 PM

is there a confirmed route yet? Had a quick look at first and last page of this thread but can't see any thing :)

just working out how much of it me & the missus will be doing as she's only got about 20 miles under her pillion belt so a bit rideout around the highlands could be a bit much for her straight off the bat

thanks in advance

But................when are we being told the route?

It's getting stupid now. The route could be planned in 15 minutes flat on paper and 2 days to do a trial run.

dyzio

06-06-10, 06:03 PM

Under 3 weeks to go! Woo-hoo!

But................when are we being told the route?

3 weeks indeed :) any particular reason you need to know the route NOW?

It's getting stupid now. The route could be planned in 15 minutes flat on paper and 2 days to do a trial run.

No it isn't.

Surely Q will post the route when everything is ready/planned.

stuartyboy

06-06-10, 06:22 PM

3 weeks indeed :) any particular reason you need to know the route NOW?

No it isn't.

Surely Q will post the route when everything is ready/planned.

Yes I do actually. I'm on call and I need to know where I'll be in case I have to respond to a call.

Yes it is actually. Northy kept everyone in the loop at the past rideouts. My annual rideout was arranged on day one and everybody knew the route, stops accommodation.

Is there particular any reason it's being kept a secret???

Quiff Wichard

06-06-10, 06:23 PM

hey dont flame Quedos guys.. she doin a grand job.. I am sure it takes some organising and therefore requires some appreciation .. maybe she dont want to post it ont he public forum.. maybe a PM might get a response rather than havin a pop on the thread...

me looking forward to it.. a lot

Quiff Wichard

06-06-10, 06:26 PM

padded cycling shorts.

only troubble with them are you will get the '''does my bum look big in these?'''

was goin to say the same thing.. we use cycling shorts.. in fact my pair were bought in inverness at last years GM.

plus paul if she aint got a tribo seat for the pillion - get one.. she will be gripping her bum cheeks to stay on.. AND buy some love handles for her to hold on to.. lot more relaxed then..

about £30 for the two and about £15 for the cycling shorts .. good investment if it makes her feel comfier and more comfident.. AND enjoys it.

dyzio

06-06-10, 06:39 PM

Yes I do actually. I'm on call and I need to know where I'll be in case I have to .
Yes it is actually. Northy kept everyone in the loop at the past rideouts. My annual rideout was arranged on day one and everybody knew the route, stops accommodation.
Is there any reason it's being kept a secret???

Surely you don't mean the last years GM.
Your rideout is a lot sompler isn't it? Get to Aviemore via Glenshee and Lecht road. You don't have 50 people to think about.

hey dont flame Quedos guys.. she doin a grand job.. I am sure it takes some organising and therefore requires some appreciation ..
My point exactly.