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zobers
01-12-09, 04:23 PM
Hi ladies,

I went to the NEC bike show today and had a quick chat with a lovely lady from hottrax motorcycle events. I mentioned the forum to her and I mentioned maybe organising a women only track day (before any men moan, I love you all but sometimes you are a wee bit too competitive :P). I just thought I would come on here and figure out whether people are interested in this and if so how many. The numbers would need to be around 20-40 ladies and I would imagine the trackday would be on a track around the midlands, maybe Mallory park or Cadwell.

So what do you all think and if you are interested pop yourself on the list and I will let Hottrax know if we can get the numbers up.

1) Zobers

Red Herring
01-12-09, 04:27 PM
Is it going to be a proper girls only track day or are you going to let a few blokes come along to show you which way to go, take your bikes off their stands and to pick them up out of the gravel traps?......

sv-robo
01-12-09, 04:29 PM
Don't be daft!:p


(Runs & hides8-[)

BanditPat
01-12-09, 04:30 PM
Am I a girl? if I am count me in!!

zobers
01-12-09, 04:30 PM
It's alright we are capable of asking directions if we need to. Men are welcome to come and watch and make the tea. :)

beabert
01-12-09, 04:38 PM
how about a blokes only track day on the same day lol

dawn07
01-12-09, 04:39 PM
:grin:Great idea, but a bit too far away for me,sor

DanAbnormal
01-12-09, 04:45 PM
It does make me chuckle to myself when people want to segregate themselves. Can you imagine if we said a men only trackday and how sexist that would be. Equality when it suits eh? :rolleyes:

But enjoy your trackday. You might want to phone ahead and tell them that no men are to be allowed on that day as well. You know, do it properly. :p

speedplay
01-12-09, 05:25 PM
Equal rights and all that,

I've just declared our kitchen a "women only room".

Seems only fair.

ArtyLady
01-12-09, 05:29 PM
:smt116 you lot!!

Zobers I would come (purely because there wouldn't be any testosterone showing off ;)) but wouldn't be able to commit to the expense and distance :(

Dave20046
01-12-09, 05:50 PM
I'll bring the mugs!

BanditPat
01-12-09, 05:54 PM
I'll bring the jugs!

I think thats sorted mate...

TheOnlyNemesis
01-12-09, 06:21 PM
Women only car park

http://www.natives.co.uk/features/jokes/car%20park.gif

Daimo
01-12-09, 06:29 PM
I can understand a womens only trackday.

BUT

This is what a novice session is for. There's been plenty of women at the trackdays i've seen/been to. If a lady doesn't have confidence, then they should try a "novice taster" session only one evening like I done for the first time. Some people could have walked the bike faster round bends, so just because males are there means nothing.

Love the equalities statement though :lol:

Sosha
01-12-09, 06:39 PM
Mmmm - I've been to "Novice" sessions where novice translates as "Novice plus anyone else we can't fit into any other group" (not realy complaining)

If you were looking for something more civilised I recon one of the "Novice Only" trackdays would prob. cover it without going the segregation route

robh539
01-12-09, 06:42 PM
I'll bring the mugs!

Dave are you sure you spelt that right?...........Taxi

well i think ill have to pop down a watch this, ladies in leather ;)

Dave20046
01-12-09, 06:58 PM
not seen zobers avatar?
muggy juggy leather clad action

robh539
01-12-09, 06:59 PM
not seen zobers avatar?
muggy juggy leather clad action

yeah fair point. lol

ill see you there then

Dave20046
01-12-09, 07:03 PM
p.s I'm glad this thread hasn't descended into sexist drivel

speedplay
01-12-09, 07:12 PM
I think we should start a "men only watching girls trackday" thread.

Ill bring the popcorn ;)

ArtyLady
01-12-09, 07:15 PM
You're all :offtopic:

robh539
01-12-09, 07:18 PM
I think we should start a "men only watching girls trackday" thread.

Ill bring the popcorn ;)

Ill get the beers in, :D

Dave20046
01-12-09, 07:27 PM
kleenex?

phil24_7
01-12-09, 10:27 PM
No Limits arange women only track days occasionally, as do girlsbike2, so you may not need to organise you own, only pick the right day. Be warned though, I know 1 or 2 girls that are ridiculously quick!

Lozzo
01-12-09, 11:12 PM
No Limits arange women only track days occasionally, as do girlsbike2, so you may not need to organise you own, only pick the right day. Be warned though, I know 1 or 2 girls that are ridiculously quick!

So do I, one of them is an instructor with No-Limits, another is my ex-girlfriend, who I recently sold a 2001 929 Fireblade to.

thulfi
02-12-09, 04:20 AM
Women only car park

http://www.natives.co.uk/features/jokes/car%20park.gif

lol! aaand to follow on from that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0e6xA5G_8

watch this people. its hilarious!

Von Teese
02-12-09, 07:10 AM
No Limits arange women only track days occasionally, as do girlsbike2, so you may not need to organise you own, only pick the right day. Be warned though, I know 1 or 2 girls that are ridiculously quick!

No Limits and Girls Bike 2 are now one and the same.
Bikerchick82 works for Girls Bike 2 and she is a real racer girl...very very quick on track.

Ive never done a track day yet and Im not too fussed, I did the BikeKraft day with the police and that was a small taster I guess.
Track days seem fun and they are much easier than riding on the road with cars and other hazards so I would love to give it a go and see what Im really capable of, however 2 things on this.

1) I dont want to risk wrecking my paint job
2) I wouldnt want to do a track day where Mr VT doesnt get to have a go, I think that would be very unfair to him.

metalangel
02-12-09, 07:33 AM
Stuff the track day, I wanna be watching the locker room showers afterwards!

kitkat
02-12-09, 08:47 AM
i have done 4 track days at knockhill. 2 organised by IAM, 1 girls only and an SV night. The SV night was the best because I knew a lot of people and it was a laugh, the IAM nights were good (Colin McRae turned up in his helicopter and joined in on his GSXR) and the girls only was a nightmare, had their boyfriends etc watching and the girls were so aggressive and felt they had to prove something. It really put me off. Not that all events will be like this.

zobers
02-12-09, 09:05 AM
Ok thank you all for the comments. I was just testing the water really, to see how much interest there would be. I will have to give it a go next year when I have collected my marshalling track points. My only real connern was that, from my experience on the road, if a female overtakes a male then there is some kind of need for the male to show how manly they are and end up doing something rediculously stupid just to get back in front, I believe this would be some what worse on a track. :( Of course this doesn't include all men!

Gonna have to tuck my hair and b00bs away somehow then!

robh539
02-12-09, 09:09 AM
Ok thank you all for the comments. I was just testing the water really, to see how much interest there would be. I will have to give it a go next year when I have collected my marshalling track points. My only real connern was that, from my experience on the road, if a female overtakes a male then there is some kind of need for the male to show how manly they are and end up doing something rediculously stupid just to get back in front, I believe this would be some what worse on a track. :( Of course this doesn't include all men!

Gonna have to tuck my hair and b00bs away somehow then!

I don't mind being behind women at all ;)

Dave20046
02-12-09, 09:35 AM
Ok thank you all for the comments. I was just testing the water really, to see how much interest there would be. I will have to give it a go next year when I have collected my marshalling track points. My only real connern was that, from my experience on the road, if a female overtakes a male then there is some kind of need for the male to show how manly they are and end up doing something rediculously stupid just to get back in front, I believe this would be some what worse on a track. :( Of course this doesn't include all men!

Gonna have to tuck my hair and b00bs away somehow then!
Only if they're a pleb, think the only two girls SV'rs I've ridden with have been better than me. Graciepants has overtaken me too (ahem cbr vs sv motorway ahem)

Alpinestarhero
02-12-09, 09:38 AM
Is it going to be a proper girls only track day or are you going to let a few blokes come along to show you which way to go, take your bikes off their stands and to pick them up out of the gravel traps?......

maybe you and that bloke on the R1 at brands wil be allowed in, so I can stand trackside and enjoy a good race :cool::D

Red Herring
02-12-09, 12:28 PM
Thanks, my mate reckons I am riding a bit like an old........these days.

On a serious note I'm with the OP on this one. Lots of riders are put off doing their first track day because of worries over one thing or another and although you later find out that most of them were completely unfounded it sometimes takes a little organization just to create the situation where they can have their first go. I've run quite a few "first timer" track sessions now and it can be done quite simply if you get in with the right organizer who is prepared to give you your own "session" on one of their days. The only word of caution I would have is you need to be careful over what the criteria is for entering. If riders are all from the same club/group, ie: mates, they tend to look out for each other, which after all is one of the main reasons for having your own group and having riders of different abilities isn't such an issue. Likewise if they are all first timers they will generally all have the same priority. The problem can come if you take a group of riders who have no common link that is going to make them want to look out for each other, and a gender oriented group has that potential. If anything you could argue there is a motivator in there for some of the riders to actually try and prove a point which you might not have had if the "focus" of the group hadn't brought attention to their gender.
Personally I think if the OP is nervous about getting out on the track for the first time she should go to one of the "Novice only" days run by several top organizers. That way the whole day is set up around them.

-Ralph-
02-12-09, 12:33 PM
or are you going to let a few blokes come along to show you which way to go, take your bikes off their stands and to pick them up out of the gravel traps?......

Men are welcome to come and watch and make the tea. :)

I'm reliably informed that means "yes please!"

yorkie_chris
02-12-09, 01:41 PM
Loving the equality comments :smt043

Is it going to be a proper girls only track day or are you going to let a few blokes come along to show you which way to go, take your bikes off their stands and to pick them up out of the gravel traps?......

:smt043

This thread rules.

robh539
02-12-09, 02:13 PM
Thanks, my mate reckons I am riding a bit like an old........these days.

On a serious note I'm with the OP on this one. Lots of riders are put off doing their first track day because of worries over one thing or another and although you later find out that most of them were completely unfounded it sometimes takes a little organization just to create the situation where they can have their first go. I've run quite a few "first timer" track sessions now and it can be done quite simply if you get in with the right organizer who is prepared to give you your own "session" on one of their days. The only word of caution I would have is you need to be careful over what the criteria is for entering. If riders are all from the same club/group, ie: mates, they tend to look out for each other, which after all is one of the main reasons for having your own group and having riders of different abilities isn't such an issue. Likewise if they are all first timers they will generally all have the same priority. The problem can come if you take a group of riders who have no common link that is going to make them want to look out for each other, and a gender oriented group has that potential. If anything you could argue there is a motivator in there for some of the riders to actually try and prove a point which you might not have had if the "focus" of the group hadn't brought attention to their gender.
Personally I think if the OP is nervous about getting out on the track for the first time she should go to one of the "Novice only" days run by several top organizers. That way the whole day is set up around them.

Agreed with above, having just done my first TD. I was nervous, and was having second thoughts a bit even on the way over. But the cheery banter a great bunch of orgers made me relax and have fun, just get on with it.
Had i have just rocked up on my own and gone around i wouldnt of enjoyed it so much.

It was quite daunting as when i turned up there was no SV about and lots of vans/trailers. Then the org turned up. :smt043

Deffo great idea, Ill come watch and return the favor taking random pics of tarmac Zobers :D

looking forward to more TD meets next year.

zobers
02-12-09, 02:21 PM
Agreed with above, having just done my first TD. I was nervous, and was having second thoughts a bit even on the way over. But the cheery banter a great bunch of orgers made me relax and have fun, just get on with it.
Had i have just rocked up on my own and gone around i wouldnt of enjoyed it so much.

It was quite daunting as when i turned up there was no SV about and lots of vans/trailers. Then the org turned up. :smt043

Deffo great idea, Ill come watch and return the favor taking random pics of tarmac Zobers :D

looking forward to more TD meets next year.

That's a deal Rob. I really wish I had been on that trackday with you all now- I have been trying to wait until I get used to the new bike but think I was just putting it off actually doing a trackday.

I am going to look up the novice only days and maybe book myself in for an advanced cornering course too.

If I did get an all girl trackday sorted I would make sure to get pictures of all the ladies for you gents! Just don't tell them. Maybe a naked trackday instead?

robh539
02-12-09, 02:27 PM
That's a deal Rob. I really wish I had been on that trackday with you all now- I have been trying to wait until I get used to the new bike but think I was just putting it off actually doing a trackday.

I am going to look up the novice only days and maybe book myself in for an advanced cornering course too.

If I did get an all girl trackday sorted I would make sure to get pictures of all the ladies for you gents! Just don't tell them. Maybe a naked trackday instead?

Sorted, ill be the official photographer on the day then ;)

I think the best way it, get to grips with a new bike would be a TD. If you do Ill be up for the cornering one if open to blokes ? lol

Red Herring
02-12-09, 03:13 PM
Hi Zobers,
Glad you're taking the plunge so to speak, but when you do book one up give some thought to the track. Cadwell is tempting to you because it's not so far but it's quite a challenging and unforgiving track for first timers, (although quite a few on here did alright around there recently). Silverstone is nice and close but it's an awesomely fast circuit that could leave you wondering where you're going, I'd be tempted to go somewhere like Mallory which has a nice combination of bends and nothing that jumps out at you unexpectedly. Either way I hope you have a good time.

zobers
02-12-09, 03:43 PM
Hi Zobers,
Glad you're taking the plunge so to speak, but when you do book one up give some thought to the track. Cadwell is tempting to you because it's not so far but it's quite a challenging and unforgiving track for first timers, (although quite a few on here did alright around there recently). Silverstone is nice and close but it's an awesomely fast circuit that could leave you wondering where you're going, I'd be tempted to go somewhere like Mallory which has a nice combination of bends and nothing that jumps out at you unexpectedly. Either way I hope you have a good time.

Mallory would be the one. I have been for bsb and to watch a few track days, I feel like the track wont surprise me and so would definately be the way forward. However I will be very wary of edwinas when I ride it after seeing all the offs the other day. Thanks for the advice Red Herring, really appreciate it.

Biker Biggles
02-12-09, 06:08 PM
Dont rule out Rockingham national as a first time track.It is quite technical but very forgiving if you get it wrong,and I think its safer to crash there than Mallory.

phil24_7
02-12-09, 09:27 PM
The Rock national was my first trackday, and was immense fun, it's still my favourite track.

zobers
02-12-09, 09:29 PM
I will check it out. Not too sure where it is so will have a quick browse on tinterweb. Thank you.

phil24_7
03-12-09, 11:43 PM
Just by Corby, in Northampton.

Von Teese
03-12-09, 11:47 PM
Zobers, its really near to us, if you want to come and stay over or anything you are welcome to ... or even just pop in for a cuppa.

Is this for the novices thing or girly track day? If its novices I might join you and if its girly, its close enough for me to join without feeling too bad about Mr VT not getting a go.

Cazza
04-12-09, 12:33 AM
1) I dont want to risk wrecking my paint job


But you ride on the road, VT, with the cars and hazards you mention? You're more likely to wreck your paintjob on the road than doing a trackday, surely?

FWIW, my opinion is that to get the best out of a trackday when you're a novice / a bit nervous - is to go with some people you like and trust and who will be in the same group as you, regardless of gender.

If I had a choice between a mixed trackday or female only, I'd definitely choose the mixed one. Undiluted testosterone might be one thing... but undiluted lady hormones, PMS and passive agressive competitiveness? Mmm... no thanks! ;)

I like doing trackdays with my Org friends, and most of them are lovely people who happen to be chaps.

Spiderman
04-12-09, 12:47 AM
I like doing trackdays with my Org friends, and most of them are lovely people who happen to be chaps.

i resemble that remark, in a positive way for a change. Phew.

5hort5
04-12-09, 12:48 AM
i resemble that remark, in a positive way for a change. Phew.

Are you sure - I heard different ;-)

Von Teese
04-12-09, 01:31 AM
But you ride on the road, VT, with the cars and hazards you mention? You're more likely to wreck your paintjob on the road than doing a trackday, surely?
Having never done a track day, I have visions of myself getting carried away like I would never dream of doing on the road...and wiping out!

i resemble that remark, in a positive way for a change. Phew.
hmmmm now that you mention it , the likeness is uncanny!

Spiderman
04-12-09, 01:35 AM
wait...what?? I'm a chap, i'm lovely and i do trackdays. What more could any hot blooded young lady want in a man??

Von Teese
04-12-09, 01:42 AM
Thats what makes you irresistable! ;)

Spiderman
04-12-09, 01:46 AM
pah, i now you dont mean it. Anyway...i;m telling myself of now for derailing this thread.

Bad Spidey, bad! Go sit in the corner now.

:oops:

bikerchick82
04-12-09, 03:19 AM
wait...what?? I'm a chap, i'm lovely and i do trackdays. What more could any hot blooded young lady want in a man??

A mute button? ;)

As VT has mentioned, I work for No Limits/GirlsBike2 and the Girls only track days are all run by No Limits that GirlsBike2 advertise.

I'm a bit of a track day addict myself and can see both sides to this, it is a great way for women with confidence issues to get out on track without worrying about a bloke cutting them up or an overdose of testosterone on track. On the other hand, Girls only track days are few and far between, would you be happy to do one track day at say Rockingham (I choose that because it's where the GirlsBike2 t/d's are held) and then go and book into another t/d at a different track where you'll have the blokes surrounding you?

I did my first track day at Cadwell back in 2006, I was the only female there in any group and I had a real blast, for me it was a fantastic day and I really enjoyed it (by that I mean I got hooked!) I've always ridden out with the blokes though and am quite happy keeping up with the fast lads at the front of ride outs or on track. (Don't listen to VT if she starts talking about my "fly by's" though....LOL)

The best bit of advice I could give a female wanting to do a track day is to just go and book one in novice group (I'd be tempted to stay away from Focused Events for this though, they have a habit of slotting anyone in any group if one group gets full) and get an instructor out there with you, I don't know about other TDO's but No Limits offer free instructors all day for anyone who wants them, we have our very own Chebs (Lisa) who is a demon and is an awesome instructor, I've been out with her myself (you never stop learning!) and managed to improve my riding considerably after just one session with her - she did teach me a bad habit of straight lining the chicane at Rockingham National though ;) I had to try it once she told me it was the fastest route! - She'll (or any instructor) will go out with you, show you the correct lines and then get you out in front of them so that they can then watch you ride and pick up on anything that needs some improving, after you've finished your session, they'll come back in with you and de brief you on it, this will include picking any points where you most need to do some work but also pick out your good points and praise you....No one likes to be constantly told what needs work!

I can recommend Rockingham National as a smaller track with some technical parts, or Rockingham International for those who want to pick up a bit more speed, Cadwell should only really be done if you're confident for your first time, it's one of those tracks which could put you off track days if not handled right.
Mallory isn't one of my favourites for various reasons but that's just me.
Silverstone is another one to be done if you're fairly confident to begin with, it is very fast and can be quite daunting if you're not too keen on high speed cornering.

If none of the above makes sense then I apologise, it's almost 3:30am and I should be sleeping :smt043

Von Teese
04-12-09, 09:02 AM
Good bit of imput there chick!

zobers
04-12-09, 09:04 AM
Zobers, its really near to us, if you want to come and stay over or anything you are welcome to ... or even just pop in for a cuppa.

Is this for the novices thing or girly track day? If its novices I might join you and if its girly, its close enough for me to join without feeling too bad about Mr VT not getting a go.


Thank you, I will have a look, it is quick a way from me. From what I have gathered, it's a novice trackday and to be honest just having another lady there with me would probably help.



If I had a choice between a mixed trackday or female only, I'd definitely choose the mixed one. Undiluted testosterone might be one thing... but undiluted lady hormones, PMS and passive agressive competitiveness? Mmm... no thanks! ;)


Point well put, didn't think about psycho females around that time of the month. :smt096

A mute button? ;)

As VT has mentioned, I work for No Limits/GirlsBike2 and the Girls only track days are all run by No Limits that GirlsBike2 advertise.

I'm a bit of a track day addict myself and can see both sides to this, it is a great way for women with confidence issues to get out on track without worrying about a bloke cutting them up or an overdose of testosterone on track. On the other hand, Girls only track days are few and far between, would you be happy to do one track day at say Rockingham (I choose that because it's where the GirlsBike2 t/d's are held) and then go and book into another t/d at a different track where you'll have the blokes surrounding you?

I did my first track day at Cadwell back in 2006, I was the only female there in any group and I had a real blast, for me it was a fantastic day and I really enjoyed it (by that I mean I got hooked!) I've always ridden out with the blokes though and am quite happy keeping up with the fast lads at the front of ride outs or on track. (Don't listen to VT if she starts talking about my "fly by's" though....LOL)

The best bit of advice I could give a female wanting to do a track day is to just go and book one in novice group (I'd be tempted to stay away from Focused Events for this though, they have a habit of slotting anyone in any group if one group gets full) and get an instructor out there with you, I don't know about other TDO's but No Limits offer free instructors all day for anyone who wants them, we have our very own Chebs (Lisa) who is a demon and is an awesome instructor, I've been out with her myself (you never stop learning!) and managed to improve my riding considerably after just one session with her - she did teach me a bad habit of straight lining the chicane at Rockingham National though ;) I had to try it once she told me it was the fastest route! - She'll (or any instructor) will go out with you, show you the correct lines and then get you out in front of them so that they can then watch you ride and pick up on anything that needs some improving, after you've finished your session, they'll come back in with you and de brief you on it, this will include picking any points where you most need to do some work but also pick out your good points and praise you....No one likes to be constantly told what needs work!

I can recommend Rockingham National as a smaller track with some technical parts, or Rockingham International for those who want to pick up a bit more speed, Cadwell should only really be done if you're confident for your first time, it's one of those tracks which could put you off track days if not handled right.
Mallory isn't one of my favourites for various reasons but that's just me.
Silverstone is another one to be done if you're fairly confident to begin with, it is very fast and can be quite daunting if you're not too keen on high speed cornering.

If none of the above makes sense then I apologise, it's almost 3:30am and I should be sleeping :smt043

Some great advice there BC82. There are a few reasons Mallory is the one I thought I would do first- distance from home (10miles), I know the track pretty well and it doesn't seem to technical (although Edwinas is gonna scare me, too many people falling off there at the weekend) or fast.

Cadwell scares me to death when I go to watch BSB so you are definately right about not doing that as the first one. Right I am off to check out this Rockingham place! :smt107

Von Teese
04-12-09, 09:12 AM
Thank you, I will have a look, it is quick a way from me. From what I have gathered, it's a novice trackday and to be honest just having another lady there with me would probably help.
Well let me know some dates, you are welcome to come up and stay over at ours and we can take the bikes in the van so that we can have tea/coffee/food and shelter.



A mute button? ;)
Love it!!! Haha!


PMS and passive agressive competitiveness?

PMS...doesnt that stand for Pass My Shotgun?

Dave20046
04-12-09, 09:14 AM
I'm a bit of a track day addict myself and can see both sides to this, it is a great way for women with confidence issues to get out on track without worrying about a bloke cutting them up or an overdose of testosterone on track. On the other hand, Girls only track days are few and far between, would you be happy to do one track day at say Rockingham (I choose that because it's where the GirlsBike2 t/d's are held) and then go and book into another t/d at a different track where you'll have the blokes surrounding you?

Is it less of a problem when a woman cuts you up or is your point that women do not cut people up?

Von Teese
04-12-09, 09:18 AM
Dave, I dont think that you would need to worry about BC82 cutting you up, she would probably be in front of you already *heeheeeee x

Its funny though because it DOES show the difference between men and women, women are reticent, nervous and have a strong sense of self-preservation while they are learning. Most like to take it slow and steady until they know they are getting it right. After that...watch out, they are like demons. Men on the other hand will push the limits from the start and do things beyond their capabilities straight off, bravery? stupidity? testosterone?

Of course this is a generalisation from my observations only and does not resemble the real world, no animals were hurt in making this post.

Dave20046
04-12-09, 09:49 AM
Dave, I dont think that you would need to worry about BC82 cutting you up, she would probably be in front of you already *heeheeeee x

Its funny though because it DOES show the difference between men and women, women are reticent, nervous and have a strong sense of self-preservation while they are learning. Most like to take it slow and steady until they know they are getting it right. After that...watch out, they are like demons. Men on the other hand will push the limits from the start and do things beyond their capabilities straight off, bravery? stupidity? testosterone?

Of course this is a generalisation from my observations only and does not resemble the real world, no animals were hurt in making this post.

:smt075

bikerchick82
04-12-09, 12:45 PM
Is it less of a problem when a woman cuts you up or is your point that women do not cut people up?

Not at all....Anyone who has ridden on the road knows that women in 4x4's are the worst people for cutting up others ;)

I was answering in relation to the OP, if you would like me to answer in relation to men going out on track for the first time then I can word it accordingly :D

Zobers, if you have any questions then feel free to PM me (on any site we're on lol!) and I'll do my best to answer you :D

Dave20046
04-12-09, 12:52 PM
I was answering in relation to the OP, if you would like me to answer in relation to men going out on track for the first time then I can word it accordingly :D


Quite a statement that. I went on the track last weekend and I'd like to think I was courteous. I got laughed at for doing shoulder checks. Only people I got cut up by were people that'd been doing it a while (judging by there track bikes) and one person who fluffed up.

zobers
04-12-09, 12:56 PM
Quite a statement that. I went on the track last weekend and I'd like to think I was courteous. I got laughed at for doing shoulder checks. Only people I got cut up by were people that'd been doing it a while (judging by there track bikes) and one person who fluffed up.

You were very courteous Dave, in fact while I was watching I was wishing that I had been booked in for your trackday. The org seem genuinely careful and considerate not like some of the wanna be racers who were on their track bikes in the novice group :smt011.

Dave20046
04-12-09, 12:58 PM
You were very courteous Dave, in fact while I was watching I was wishing that I had been booked in for your trackday. The org seem genuinely careful and considerate not like some of the wanna be racers who were on their track bikes in the novice group :smt011.
They're doing another one :) can't remember if it's mammory park or cadwell (or both) but it's on the 12th!

bikerchick82
04-12-09, 01:36 PM
Quite a statement that. I went on the track last weekend and I'd like to think I was courteous. I got laughed at for doing shoulder checks. Only people I got cut up by were people that'd been doing it a while (judging by there track bikes) and one person who fluffed up.

Huh?

Has something got lost along the way here?

I've not said that blokes aren't courteous on track, in fact I said that I did my first track day and was the only female there, I think I said I had a blast?

Some females are very nervous though and don't like riding with blokes on the road (not saying you're one Zobers - You've got a Kwak, you'll do ;)) so I was only answering a question from that point of view......

Sorry if my posts have offended, that's not what I meant to do :(

Although on the point of shoulder checks, you shouldn't have been laughed at for it although you should have been told not to do it. You concentrate on the bike/s in front, not behind, you start treating the track like a road ride and someone is going to come a cropper, it's the bloke behind you that has to watch what you're doing, not the other way around.

Von Teese
04-12-09, 02:03 PM
Meh, Kate dont worry he didnt mean it like that....besides I know you are stressed at the moment and im sure you didnt offend anyone!

And Dave....MAMMORY park you should stop looking at Zobers's avatar when you are typing! lol

zobers
04-12-09, 02:24 PM
They're doing another one :) can't remember if it's mammory park or cadwell (or both) but it's on the 12th!

12th of december? are you mad, it's bloody freezing. :)

I probably will PM you at some point BC82 just for some more advice, I respect you (you are as kwacky as me).

VT maybe I should wear my cup on the track day, I might get to overtake the men that have fallen off because of the distraction ;)

robh539
04-12-09, 02:37 PM
Yes Daves right Im a poss for the 12th mikes back there and a few others, deffo mad.

Vt Dave(we) can't help but notice.

Von Teese
04-12-09, 02:39 PM
Wear the cup! Wear the cup lol!

Spiderman
04-12-09, 05:20 PM
A mute button? ;)



Love it!!! Haha!


*Wonders what it would be like to be loved*

Von Teese
04-12-09, 05:41 PM
*Wonders what it would be like to be loved*

:smt007
AWWWWWWWwwwwwwwww! :smt054:love::smt060:smt049:kiss::smt057:smt055

I wuv you tho!

Milky Bar Kid
04-12-09, 07:47 PM
:smt007
AWWWWWWWwwwwwwwww! :smt054:love::smt060:smt049:kiss::smt057:smt055

I wuv you tho!


Stop with all the narcasisstic "I love you" ego boosting stuff...!!HEHEHEHEH!;)






Running away now.

speedplay
04-12-09, 08:23 PM
Having never done a track day, I have visions of myself getting carried away like I would never dream of doing on the road...and wiping out!



I may let you use my track bike if your serious about going...;)

robh539
04-12-09, 08:44 PM
I may let you use my track bike if your serious about going...;)

There's an offer you can't refuse :)

Von Teese
04-12-09, 10:06 PM
I may let you use my track bike if your serious about going...;)

Didnt know you had one!

speedplay
04-12-09, 10:21 PM
Didnt know you had one!

Theres a lot you dont know ;)

Someone on here knows what I have been looking at ;)

phil24_7
04-12-09, 11:44 PM
The best bit of advice I could give a female wanting to do a track day is to just go and book one in novice group (I'd be tempted to stay away from Focused Events for this though, they have a habit of slotting anyone in any group if one group gets full) I have heard this too. and get an instructor out there with you, I don't know about other TDO's but No Limits offer free instructors all day for anyone who wants them, we have our very own Chebs (Lisa) who is a demon and is an awesome instructor, I've been out with her myself (you never stop learning!) and managed to improve my riding considerably after just one session with her - she did teach me a bad habit of straight lining the chicane at Rockingham National though ;) I had to try it once she told me it was the fastest route! Not a bad habit if it's quick, and it's how most of the fast group take it! - She'll (or any instructor) will go out with you, show you the correct lines and then get you out in front of them so that they can then watch you ride and pick up on anything that needs some improving, after you've finished your session, they'll come back in with you and de brief you on it, this will include picking any points where you most need to do some work but also pick out your good points and praise you....No one likes to be constantly told what needs work! I can't recommend this enough. They follow you for a bit, pull you into the pits, talk you through what they want you to do and then show you the right way. Afterwards, a debrief helps give you things to work on in the following sessions.

I can recommend Rockingham National (Immense) as a smaller track with some technical parts, or Rockingham International (My least favorite track. The joins between the speedway and the national track, and the chicane at the end of the start/finish straight need some serious work in my opinion. They ruin an amazing track, for the sake of getting extra numbers on track) for those who want to pick up a bit more speed, Cadwell should only really be done if you're confident for your first time, it's one of those tracks which could put you off track days if not handled right.
Mallory isn't one of my favourites for various reasons but that's just me.
Silverstone is another one to be done if you're fairly confident to begin with, it is very fast and can be quite daunting if you're not too keen on high speed cornering. (I would also recommend Anglesey for a good mix of corners and straights, with what seems like almost infinite amounts of grip!)

See my notes above in red.

zobers
04-12-09, 11:49 PM
Thanks Phil much appreciated. I will check out Anglesey too then. I looked at Rockingham international earlier and it seemed too complicated for my first go anyway- I think it would be better if I could learn the track pretty quickly and then just concentrate on going a bit quicker. :)

Sorry for bad english, too much cider.

phil24_7
04-12-09, 11:55 PM
It may look complicated, but it's very short (Rockingham National). this means your do more laps per session, so you learn the track much quicker. Use the instructors in the second session and you'll be right as rain by lunch. Angelsey is much the same, a tight technical bit and a faster bit, but it's SO grippy!

Cazza
05-12-09, 03:30 PM
Brands Hatch is my favourite 'straightforward' circuit. It's simple to learn, has great corners and up and down bits and you can see all of the circuit from the front or the back of the pit garages, so you can easily watch people in other groups too. I did my first trackday here (on a GS500).

Cadwell was soooo technical and I'm afraid to say I hated it at first. But after a few laps I started to get a feel for it, and then I managed my first ever wheelie :p. I'd do it again, but certainly wouldn't recommend it for a first-timer.

Whichever one you choose to do, have a great time! And VT, stop faffing around about 'binning it' and get your **** on a trackday next spring. You'll love it and wonder why you didn't do it sooner. :D

bikerchick82
05-12-09, 03:48 PM
Tell you what VT....If you book a track day (lets say at Rockingham) then I'll book on the same one, I'll take my ZX6R out again......Not before March though!

Von Teese
05-12-09, 06:15 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me chick!
Its a date!! I will let you know when I can go once Ive had a look at track days and when I have rest days and we can let the other girls know too so that if they want to book the same day and meet up and ride together we can do that, at least that will be more of a sympathetic group to ride in for the first track day for us newbies.

lukemillar
05-12-09, 06:28 PM
I went on a girls only trackday! It was organised by Girls 2 bike(?) or something like that and had Feisty Girls Racing turn up as well for support/tuition.

Problem was that they couldn't get the numbers together for a whole day, so booked out a group instead with mixed riders in the other 2.

It was at Mallory and worked quite well because partners were allowed to join in!

bikerchick82
05-12-09, 07:13 PM
GirlsBike2 - And yes, I've already mentioned about the trackdays we organise ;)

Rai86
05-12-09, 07:20 PM
A group of us book a track called Llandow once a month to go and train on. It is a smallish track but is quite funky. But the reason why we go there is cus we can book the whole track all day for £70 quid to ourselves

We have a range of experience, from a lady who is learning to ride & kids that race to me learning to race, and the big boys who race supermoto etc

It works really well, and you end up getting soooo much track time. Last time we had 15 mins on 15 mins off - was blinking knackered by the end

Might be worth lookin at for a girls track day... good for a first track day if people are nervous as you dont end up with prats sticking it up the inside on corners.

lukemillar
05-12-09, 07:33 PM
GirlsBike2 - And yes, I've already mentioned about the trackdays we organise ;)

My apologies - must have missed that! I skipped the rest after page 2 as it seemed to be deteriorating into a "blokes mocking the girls" thread! :wink:

Was a very good day - probably my favourite TD :thumbsup:

bikerchick82
05-12-09, 07:50 PM
I'll let you off then :smt043

Von Teese
05-12-09, 08:33 PM
I skipped the rest after page 2 as it seemed to be deteriorating into a "blokes mocking the girls" thread!
:smt054

zobers
05-12-09, 08:35 PM
:smt054

+1 :smt055

bikerchick82
06-12-09, 04:29 PM
Ooooo would you look at what I just found?

http://nolimitstrackdays.com/acatalog/rocky280310.html#ainterrock10_2e02

Rockingham National, Sunday 28th March 2010 - £89

How many girls are up for that?

Biker Biggles
06-12-09, 04:57 PM
Thats not a girls only day is it?
Quite tempting too.

Fizzy Fish
06-12-09, 07:25 PM
I'd definitely be up for a trackday with the girls :D Ideally not girls only though, as it's nice to have other friends around as well. Plus the quick girls I know are the biggest maniacs of all! :lol:

Rockingham is definitely a possible - what's it like as a track?

Biker Biggles
06-12-09, 07:38 PM
Its flat and some say a bit souless but its good for SVs as its mainly corners.Theres a very long left hander and some tricky lines to learn,but you can get it all wrong without crashing.Good facilities and one of the safer tracks to fall off.

bikerchick82
06-12-09, 10:21 PM
My last vid from round Rockingham National...Judge for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF5sok5fVmQ

And no, that's not a Girls only track day, I just thought it fit the bill nicely!

phil24_7
06-12-09, 10:27 PM
I may be up for this. as my usual trackday companion will be off to Portimao that month with no limits! :(

Von Teese
07-12-09, 03:50 AM
I'm up for that Katie, I will bring Mr VT too, someone needs to make the bacon butties ;)

Biker Biggles
07-12-09, 05:27 PM
My last vid from round Rockingham National...Judge for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF5sok5fVmQ

And no, that's not a Girls only track day, I just thought it fit the bill nicely!

There you go.Described far better than I could.Almost like being there again.:D

Von Teese
07-12-09, 06:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF5sok5fVmQ


OMG! I hate you!!!!!

When are you going to teach me to ride properly?

bikerchick82
07-12-09, 06:30 PM
28th March 2010? LOL

I tried teaching you how to ride properly last time we went out together.....You just moaned about my fly by! (Or to be correct the fact that you had to change your pants after my fly by! ;) )

Von Teese
07-12-09, 11:39 PM
Teach me lol..you are too quick, I was riding alone most of the time...I want a proper lesson lol....knee down, remember you promised!!

(Oh you coming to mine tomorrow to get your hair done?)