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Hey all,
Is it really worth spending the extra cash on R&G crash bugs when I can get other ones on the internet for less than half the price. Thanks
KArtik
ive just bought some r&g bungs and they do just look a bit more sturdy, ive seen some dodgy lookin ones online for about 30 quid,
i suppose it might be one of those things where you get what you pay for
andrewsmith
07-09-10, 02:13 PM
With a pointy R&G are the best
with the curvy's there is arguments for Motosliders (US based factory) being better than R&G. At the current exchange rates i think R&G's are about the same price
toby_smith
07-09-10, 03:08 PM
Hey all,
Is it really worth spending the extra cash on R&G crash bugs when I can get other ones on the internet for less than half the price. Thanks
KArtik
I have R&G bungs. A few weeks back I had a spill. The damage was as follows.
Broken brake pedal.
Tiny scuff on exhaust, mirror and indicator.
Broken lower fairing
Cracked screen
Now if I didnt have the R&G bungs (which held up incredibly well) I would have needed to repair, replace or repaint the following bits:
Tank,
Upper fairing
Tail panels
Probably levers
etc etc etc
Obviously I havent used the cheap ones on eBay but I can wholey recomend the R&G ones.
Plus if your bike is fully faired you don't have to cut the fiarings with the R&Gs as they mount onto a plate between two of the engine bolts
Drew Carey
07-09-10, 03:11 PM
If you do a search on here there are some posts showing the results of cheaper alternative bungs. Having had a major spill on the motorway the R&G's saved my bike.
Motosliders are very good, in fact if you had a pointy without lower fairings I would suggest them over R&G.
But please, don't buy the cheap versions. Someone from here crashed with the Suzuki ones on and they may as well have had a whole edam either side of the bike. They snapped instantly and didn't protect anything.
sweet - thanks for the info... everyone seems to recommend R ang Gs
Drew Carey
07-09-10, 03:24 PM
They are good, plus, if you damage say one side, you dont need to buy the whole kit; they supply all individual components seperately.
I dropped my SV when it had the basic bungs on it and they bent and cracked the fairing. I put R&G's on it after that because I was not confident the other ones would do anything if in an off. R&G's all the way.
Tom_the_great
07-09-10, 03:34 PM
Thread hijack sort of.... i bought some R&G's from someone on here for 03 onwards... i have a fully faired sport can i just unbolt the current crappy ones and attach the bungs on the current brackets or do i need to remove the fairing and put all the engine bar with mounts on as i have had conflicting storys...
Drew Carey
07-09-10, 03:52 PM
If it was me, I would change the lot. They are designed to work with the R&G system. Would make no sense to keep half of it inferior and only add the bungs.
Milky Bar Kid
07-09-10, 04:12 PM
My R&G's have been worth their weight in gold. If I hadn't had them, I would have been looking at upwards of a grands worth of damage to my bike when it fell over when the stand sunk into crappy tar that hadn't been laid properly!
badsaboy
07-09-10, 05:19 PM
R&G's come with alloy brackets which are bolted onto the engine. the crash bungs then onto the brackets. Cheapies @bay stuff mount to the fairing brackets which can bend very easily and therefore don't really protect in a spill. trust me I've made the mistake and bought the cheapies and have seen the error in my ways!!!!
Milky Bar Kid
07-09-10, 05:24 PM
Is it right enough that R&G will supply the bungs seperately? As my left bung is all scuffed now and I would like to replace it.
sweet - that's it you've convinced me --- R&G all the way baby
El Saxo
07-09-10, 05:30 PM
Hey all,
Is it really worth spending the extra cash on R&G crash bugs when I can get other ones on the internet for less than half the price. Thanks
KArtik
In short, yes. Take it from someone who crashed with vastly inferior Motrax DHM crash mushrooms fitted - my fairing was totalled and my ally indicators actually did a better job of withstanding the impact to the left side of the bike. I now have R&Gs fitted.
Thread hijack sort of.... i bought some R&G's from someone on here for 03 onwards... i have a fully faired sport can i just unbolt the current crappy ones and attach the bungs on the current brackets or do i need to remove the fairing and put all the engine bar with mounts on as i have had conflicting storys...
If it was me, I would change the lot. They are designed to work with the R&G system. Would make no sense to keep half of it inferior and only add the bungs.
+1, the engine bar & mounting brackets are part of the reason they work so well. It doesnt matter which bung you fit on the end if the brackets are just going to bend / snap on impact.
Drew Carey
07-09-10, 07:00 PM
Is it right enough that R&G will supply the bungs seperately? As my left bung is all scuffed now and I would like to replace it.
Yup, they do indeedy nicalalalalalalalala......can't remember how much they were. But after a low speed slide on ice I replaced one bung and one bolt.
Drew Carey
07-09-10, 07:04 PM
The full bracket system is solid. When my bike went over on the mway it slid along on the crash bung for a good 30+ meters. If it had been the cheaper bungs they would have snapped on impact. Thus meaning it would have slid the rest on tank / frame.
The cheap bungs etc "might" stop the bike getting dinked if you dropped it whilst stationary, but I can't seem them protecting the bike if it was in motion.
Milky Bar Kid
07-09-10, 07:32 PM
Yup, they do indeedy nicalalalalalalalala......can't remember how much they were. But after a low speed slide on ice I replaced one bung and one bolt.
Thanks Drew
Mighty Boosh
07-09-10, 08:36 PM
When fitting bungs they need to be torqued to the correct level to work at thier best.
If the round hole in the lower fairing doesn't line up perfectly, loosen the bracket on the radiator and the one by the gear / brake lever to aid linage .
HTH.
I have R&G bungs.
Obviously I havent used the cheap ones on eBay but I can wholey recomend the R&G ones.
If you intend doing Cadwell TAKE THEM OFF! :) If the bike slides off the track, the crashbungs will send it into oblivion!
Ask Chris how many cartwheeled in March ;)
C
lukemillar
08-09-10, 12:24 AM
If you intend doing Cadwell TAKE THEM OFF! :) If the bike slides off the track, the crashbungs will send it into oblivion!
Ask Chris how many cartwheeled in March ;)
C
Not true. It's a gamble either way and every crash is different so it's hard to predict.
I have had 2 medium speed off track excursions and the bike didn't flip on each occasion from the bungs.
Having said that, mine barely protrude further than the fairing line - maybe 2 inches.
SUPERSTARDJ01
08-09-10, 02:30 PM
YES
benji106
08-09-10, 02:49 PM
My R&G's have been worth their weight in gold. If I hadn't had them, I would have been looking at upwards of a grands worth of damage to my bike when it fell over when the stand sunk into crappy tar that hadn't been laid properly!
Sorry for the hijack but this post has just ruined the image I had in my head of a giant sinkhole opening up under MBK's bike in the car park. Not sure why but that is the picture that was painted in my head when I read the original broken shiny shiny thread. Stand sinking in, pah, thats not very dramatic. anyway, carry on :p
EDIT: Dramatic or not was still gutted for you btw.
Not true. It's a gamble either way and every crash is different so it's hard to predict.
Very true but at Cadwell its not worth the risk. I agree that every track is diferent. I use them at Easfortune and Knockhill but I'd take them off for Cadwell.
I have had 2 medium speed off track excursions and the bike didn't flip on each occasion from the bungs.
Me too but at Cadwell its different. Its a very narrow track and there's a trough at the dge of the tarck followed by soft ground. If a crash bung goes of the track it'll very likely likely cartwheel the bike. In March we saw three 675's completely (and utterly) trashed due to this (narrow bike) And many other bikes too. There were only 5 of us left at the end of the day. Nearly 30 bikes were kaput!
Having said that, mine barely protrude further than the fairing line - maybe 2 inches.
Doesn't matter in soft ground. It'll flip it :)
C
yorkie_chris
08-09-10, 03:40 PM
If you do a search on here there are some posts showing the results of cheaper alternative bungs. Having had a major spill on the motorway the R&G's saved my bike.
Motosliders are very good, in fact if you had a pointy without lower fairings I would suggest them over R&G.
But please, don't buy the cheap versions. Someone from here crashed with the Suzuki ones on and they may as well have had a whole edam either side of the bike. They snapped instantly and didn't protect anything.
Actually motoslider now make a part to suit full-fairy model.
Milky Bar Kid
08-09-10, 05:25 PM
Sorry for the hijack but this post has just ruined the image I had in my head of a giant sinkhole opening up under MBK's bike in the car park. Not sure why but that is the picture that was painted in my head when I read the original broken shiny shiny thread. Stand sinking in, pah, thats not very dramatic. anyway, carry on :p
EDIT: Dramatic or not was still gutted for you btw.
LOL! No there was a fairly big hole in the tarmac! Not quite a sink hole....
Drew Carey
08-09-10, 07:33 PM
Actually motoslider now make a part to suit full-fairy model.
Cool, didn't know that.
aliwakeskate
08-09-10, 08:25 PM
I tested the motosliders on my naked pointy last week in wales to see if they live up to the hype. Which they certainly do!! Bike slid down the road on it's left hand side and the only damage on that side was snapped gear peg and scratched bar end. The motoslider took the entire impact and abrasion. Without them, the left hand side of the bike would have been a right mess.
The right hand side of the bike, well that's a different story..... that side took the impact of a diesel enduced poweslide into a crash barrier before ejecting me into the bushes with bike sliding down the road. nice. Crash bung didn't stop the tank from getting bashed on the right but I swear it saved my leg from getting damaged as I was squashed between the bike and the barrier with the crash bung scraping the barrier as opposed to my leg!
So I would 100% fit crash bungs either motosliders or R&G as there is no way a cheap inferior bung would have protected the bike or me as much.
yorkie_chris
08-09-10, 10:08 PM
I can't overstate just how much of a complete folly the OEM bungs are on the fairy models.
If you have these on your fairy bike, they will pop off or bend inwards in a tiny lowside and offer no protection at all.
christopher
08-09-10, 10:20 PM
I can't overstate just how much of a complete folly the OEM bungs are on the fairy models.
If you have these on your fairy bike, they will pop off or bend inwards in a tiny lowside and offer no protection at all.
I can attest to this :rolleyes:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=144635&highlight=hardy&page=32#post2188174
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=144635&highlight=hardy&page=33#post2188375
danf1234
09-09-10, 09:50 AM
Thats shocking to say they are OEM. Maybe its a sales play to make you buy new fairings
mike_avfc
10-09-10, 08:48 PM
dropped my bike on a mountain in the alps in July - 0mph as i put my foot down and the ground was a few inches lower than i thought. - not a mark on it - i'd have been f&*(ed without the R&G's. worht their weight in gold.
Al_Sweetman
20-09-10, 05:27 PM
Is it right enough that R&G will supply the bungs seperately? As my left bung is all scuffed now and I would like to replace it.
I'm going to say no having tried to do this last week after an off (still getting parts through now).
Phone up HG as girl in there said they could ... got a call back after speaking to R&G supplier who informed them they don't do that any more, and I'd need to pay over £70 for an entire new set - not even the new style either - they're not out for the SV yet.
Ultimately I've managed to get a fleabayed bung from a bloke in the same situation who had to buy the set. £23 to me so it is possible but quite rare.
Cheers,
A.
christopher
20-09-10, 05:53 PM
Errm, phone up R&G directly and they'll sort you out. I bought a crash bung, the bolt it fixes with, and the left side mount for a fully faired SV650SK5. You certainly do not have to buy the full set! Don't go through a third party such as Hein Gericke (guessing that's who you meant by HG), just go direct.
Might be different for a curvy, but I doubt it!
Al_Sweetman
20-09-10, 06:02 PM
Errm, phone up R&G directly and they'll sort you out. I bought a crash bung, the bolt it fixes with, and the left side mount for a fully faired SV650SK5. You certainly do not have to buy the full set! Don't go through a third party such as Hein Gericke (guessing that's who you meant by HG), just go direct.
Might be different for a curvy, but I doubt it!
Ahh ok - yeah it was Hein Gericke. Will try going direct next time - but either way can't complain w/ £20-something from ebay.
A
christopher
20-09-10, 06:12 PM
Almost the same as R&G direct then ;) Just dug up the email confirming prices, this was on the 15/06/10. Retail prices were bung £23, bolt £1, and the mount was £16.00.
I got them all a bit cheaper by calling up and asking the question. Also got delivery free, not sure if it should have been.
Can't fault their service and help, got the items the next day and was sent 2 different bolts as the person I spoke to wasn't sure which was which (one side is longer than the other) and their system was slow at the time, and instead of delaying my order he put both in for the same cost!
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