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Ernst
21-10-10, 06:34 PM
Yesterday I started my engine and clicked it in the first gear.... immediately the engine was switched off. Switched off, like I put out the jiffy or so.
The jiffy switch has been disabled though.
I repeated this several times but every time the engine stopped. Then after a while it kept running without a problem.

Does anyone know if there is a safety switch in the gearbox?
(If yes... it has to be disabled, like I will undo the clutch handle switch!)

edit: '00 sv650


Thanks

mjc
21-10-10, 06:41 PM
By 'jiffy switch' do you mean the sidestand cut out switch, or the clutch switch?

Ernst
21-10-10, 06:43 PM
By 'jiffy switch' do you mean the sidestand cut out switch, or the clutch switch?

side stand switch!

Berlin
22-10-10, 08:13 AM
Well from that diagnosis, its faulty. Check your connection :)

yorkie_chris
22-10-10, 10:25 AM
Relay can also go faulty even if switch is fine. I prefer to bypass whole relay.

Ernst
22-10-10, 11:09 AM
Yesterday I started my engine and clicked it in the first gear.... immediately the engine was switched off. Switched off, like I put out the jiffy or so.
The jiffy switch has been disabled though.
I repeated this several times but every time the engine stopped. Then after a while it kept running without a problem.

Does anyone know if there is a safety switch in the gearbox?
(If yes... it has to be disabled, like I will undo the clutch handle switch!)

edit: '00 sv650


Thanks

I have noticed that my text has been edited.
Strange.

simesb
22-10-10, 11:18 AM
I have noticed that my text has been edited.
Strange.

That be the forum fairy at play ;)

philbut
22-10-10, 03:36 PM
Relay can also go faulty even if switch is fine. I prefer to bypass whole relay.

+1 had this issue on my '02 SVs. Kept killing the engine mid corner! eventualy narrowed it down to the relay, not the switch. bypassed and problem solved.

Ernst
22-10-10, 05:17 PM
+1 had this issue on my '02 SVs. Kept killing the engine mid corner! eventualy narrowed it down to the relay, not the switch. bypassed and problem solved.

I have gone through the electrical diagram but I cannot clear how and which realy I should bypass.

Would you be able to produce a more or less detailed decription of what you have done?
:)

philbut
22-10-10, 05:46 PM
Been a while since I owned an SV mate. I know there is a relay pack (I think next to the fuse box) under the riders seat. the relay will a number of wires entering it -you need to bridge the two wires whch control the ignition system, thus bypassing the relay all together. Someoen who still has a curvy should be able to give you a better answer as without looking, I can't really be any more accurate.

Maybe YC can help, I know he still has a curvy.

DarrenSV650S
22-10-10, 05:51 PM
jiffy switch.... that's a new one

Ernst
22-10-10, 05:51 PM
Been a while since I owned an SV mate. I know there is a relay pack (I think next to the fuse box) under the riders seat. the relay will a number of wires entering it -you need to bridge the two wires whch control the ignition system, thus bypassing the relay all together. Someoen who still has a curvy should be able to give you a better answer as without looking, I can't really be any more accurate.

Maybe YC can help, I know he still has a curvy.

Thanks anyway:)

I have changed my front sprocket from 15 to 14 today by the way, and gosh it is quicker now! I think the previous owner hired Geoff Capes to tighten te nut. It took me an hour of fighting, swearing and bleeding to undo it.
This info is not quite relevant to the subject, so be it :)

Ernst
22-10-10, 05:53 PM
jiffy switch.... that's a new one

Why ?
In holland we say "jiffy" to sidestand, so I assumed it an english word :)

yorkie_chris
22-10-10, 06:23 PM
I have gone through the electrical diagram but I cannot clear how and which realy I should bypass.

Would you be able to produce a more or less detailed decription of what you have done?
:)

Relay has 6 wires

blue
blue black
green
orange black
orange yellow
sky blue (light blue)

simply join orange black and orange/yellow together in a robust way like solder and heatshrink.

fyi you can also join blue and blue/black together to omit the relay coil from the neutral light switch (if you wanted to use a different indicator flasher device or something)

mikerj
22-10-10, 10:55 PM
Why ?
In holland we say "jiffy" to sidestand, so I assumed it an english word :)

It's an American term, came from Harley's originally.