Mac vs. PC

[metalangel]

Macs might be initially expensive to buy, but total cost of ownership is lower because they hold their value.

Meaningless if you run it until it breaks.

[Bluefish]

I thought they didn't break ;)

[Filipe M.]

I thought they didn't break ;)

They do if you hit them hard enough ;)

[the_lone_wolf]

http://www.lolcaption.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/funny-fail-pics-lolcaption-epic-windows-screen-failure.jpg

[hindle8907]

^^ :D i like that 1

[SoulKiss]

^^ true, all apples gear holds it value very well.

Who buys anything based on resale value?

I buy based on whether it does what I want it to, and then use it till it doesn't.

Whether thats because it breaks, or gets worn out or just gets obsolete, it doesn't matter.

[_Stretchie_]

I will be honest here.

I have no preference, and I have no idea what half of the posts meant but it's going slow at work and I'd thought I'd jump on a bandwagon of any kind... SO....

I thought this was funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_kGL3M5Cg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IraQfhlMwi4&feature=related

[hindle8907]

Who buys anything based on resale value?

I buy based on whether it does what I want it to, and then use it till it doesn't.


+1

I didnt say i buy anything based on resale vaule i was just agreeing whith the person that posted macs hold their value.
But it is nice to know you can sell your equipment after a few years of ownership when you want to upgrade and get more than half the money back which you paid for the hardware in the first place to fund the new hardware.

[hindle8907]

and by the way I'm a PC not a Mac ;)

[beabert]

And a curvy, change your pic :-p

[hindle8907]

And a curvy, change your pic :-p

noooo never !!!! im still coming to terms that shes gone :(

[metalmonkey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXdk-dkQ_E&feature=player_embedded

Not sure if its been posted before, but it made me laugh.

[the_lone_wolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXdk-dkQ_E&feature=player_embedded

Not sure if its been posted before, but it made me laugh.I don't get it, is it just the guy spazzing out? At least Windows XP had the good grace to tell you when it's crashed, Macs just give you a spinning umbrella and deny all knowledge...;)

Does take me back though, haven't heard the fatal error noise since I left XP for Vista then 7 several years ago!!

[timwilky]

This thread reminds me of the arguments we had about retaining VAX or going Sun about 25 years ago. Except it was between people who knew what they were talking about. Vax was solid, stayed going for years between reboots. Sun & SunOS was brash and new, programs flew on it. But it lacked the tools needed to manage it out of the techie world. Well Vax was lost to a company who did not understand the place of minis, and they in turn were taken over by a company who did. And Sun was lost to Oracle, so much for hardware companies running software, the world changed.

So at the end of the day who cares of PC, Mac, Linux etc. In 20 years time who will give a damm?

[kaivalagi]

So at the end of the day who cares of PC, Mac, Linux etc. In 20 years time who will give a damm?

But 20 years ago I am sure the VAX versus Sun argument was very much alive...just like this one now right?

And it's not quite as simple as it was then, there's more content/purposes of tech to argue about...back then it was more about computing power and platforms and less about the miriad of options for the desktop or the enterprise solutions available.

If we were arguing server tech then the closest I can think of would be Windows versus Linux/AIX...the windows advocates will undoubtedly think Linux/AIX is an overly complicated painful system to work with which doesn't support enough of the off-the-shelf solutions available and Windows is simple to administer and does the job nicely whereas the Linux/AIX advocates will think Linux/AIX is all powerful, efficient, solid and supports anything enterprise worth supporting whilst Windows is full of unnecessary bloat and crashes a lot....what gets me is when a corporation builds a system using Java and Apache tech on the windows platform......both platforms have their place in my opinion

Same goes for Mac versus PC, I just won't spend the silly money on Mac because I have Linux, but that's just me ;)

[phi-dan]

But 20 years ago I am sure the VAX versus Sun argument was very much alive...just like this one now right?

Slightly off topic, but our VAX box at work is being replaced this week, after many arguments about keeping the system on VAX or upgrading to something vaguely Windows based... Turns out we're moving to something that lets us use the system that the VAX box ran, rather than upgrading entirely. npfit/cfh - gotta love it :rolleyes:

[ThEGr33k]

A lot of people seem to go for mac's because they look good. Hmph.

[beabert]

We used VAX, our carpets were spotless

[barwel1992]

We used VAX, our carpets were spotless

im sorry but dyson are the way to go ;)

[Binky]

Probably been covered a million times, and only skimmed through this thread, but i used macs for a few years before eventually buying one after my PC got way too old.

They are nearly twice the price of equivalent stuff. (I have a desktop Imac) But they seem to work a hell of a lot better. I can download fonts from the internet and install them in a second, then they are ready for me to use in Illustrator, In Design or Photoshop in seconds. When trying the same on a PC it seemed to take ages or just too hard.

There are millions of other short cuts that just save me acres of time when working. Ease of use for me really. Time will tell if it ages well and lasts me a long time, i'm hoping it frigging will.

But as others have mentioned, i wouldn't go back to a PC out of choice. Only financial constraints would send me back really.

[beabert]

im sorry but dyson are the way to go ;)

Oh the age old VAX vs dyson lol

[hindle8907]

LOL shake and Vac

[wyrdness]

From PC World Magazine's Laptop Reliability and Service survey 2010 (http://www.pcworld.com/article/211402/reliability_and_service_laptops.html):


http://zapp5.staticworld.net//news/graphics/211081-laptopchart_800_original.jpg

[larigos]

Mac all the way - tell me what other company replaces a power pack after 3.5 years worth of abuse - out of warranty by 2.5 years. Also being one of academic persuasion I have Uni discount on macs not that I need to buy one right now. However, don't mind meeting people in city centre to help give discount - can be close to £100 off a MacBook.

[beabert]

Mac all the way - tell me what other company replaces a power pack after 3.5 years worth of abuse - out of warranty by 2.5 years. Also being one of academic persuasion I have Uni discount on macs not that I need to buy one right now. However, don't mind meeting people in city centre to help give discount - can be close to £100 off a MacBook. I should think so for the price youre paying,

[fastdruid]

If we were arguing server tech then the closest I can think of would be Windows versus Linux/AIX...the windows advocates will undoubtedly think Linux/AIX is an overly complicated painful system to work with which doesn't support enough of the off-the-shelf solutions available and Windows is simple to administer and does the job nicely whereas the Linux/AIX advocates will think Linux/AIX is all powerful, efficient, solid and supports anything enterprise worth supporting whilst Windows is full of unnecessary bloat and crashes a lot....what gets me is when a corporation builds a system using Java and Apache tech on the windows platform......both platforms have their place in my opinion

Don't group Linux and AIX together. Linux users/advocates think AIX is an overly complicated painful system to work with which doesn't support enough of the off-the-shelf solutions available...

It used to be said [...] that AIX looks like one space alien discovered Unix, and described it to another different space alien who then implemented AIX. But their universal translators were broken and they'd had to gesture a lot.


Druid

[Bluefish]

Yeah but asus which comes second costs a quarter of the price of a mac ;)

[kaivalagi]

Don't group Linux and AIX together. Linux users/advocates think AIX is an overly complicated painful system to work with which doesn't support enough of the off-the-shelf solutions available...
And some people don't :)
Smitty FTW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX_SMIT

Most (if not all) companies I've worked with divide off Windows servers to one department and Linux/AIX etc to another (mid-range). It's probably that way because the mid-range team expertise started out due to AIX platform requirements support followed by Linux servers coming along more recently...

[ThEGr33k]

Yeah but asus which comes second costs a quarter of the price of a mac ;)


Indeed... £400 for a decent Asus PC, £1000 for a decent Mac... id expect almost perfect service for the premium.

If Asus didn't package most of the crap they do then they would improve the ratings a lot, also Windows 7 will help, vista sucked and caused loads of issues!!!!

[fastdruid]

And some people don't :)
Smitty FTW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX_SMIT


Ah yes, 'SMIT happens'. ;-)

Druid