Gearbox buying advice for K3 needed

[muzikill]

My K3 was registered in the uk november 03. I have been told that only k3 and older gearboxes would fit it, is this right coz there a few newer ones!

Theres a few on ebay on the following link, some buying advice would be appreciated!
There are some on it that say would suit 03,04,05 etc that can't be right can it?

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=sv+650+gearbox&_sacat=See-All-Categories

[barwel1992]

i think some parts will fit others wont like i think its the selector barrel that dosn't fit but not 100%

LINK (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-SV650-SV-650-K3-engine-gearbox-gear-box-03-K4-04-/310185664564?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item483881a034)

[zadar]

99-03 are same. 04 and up are different.
Difference is in drive shaft only. 04 and newer shaft is little longer and uses extra washer and o-ring on end. All other parts are same.

[muzikill]

I thought so, so buying anything 04 upwards aint gonna work eh?

thanks for the advice again zadar! - im going round in circles trying to get the right parts. What you guys think about the ebay ones?
Will it be ok to use the barrel & forks i still have?

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=162680&page=2
This page shows the forks tbh there's hardly a scratch on em!

[muzikill]

Ive been rallying round trying to get hold of a good part at a good price and a few have asked for the driveshaft length for a k3 just in case they send the wrong one. Does anyone know what the size is? - i wont be back up to the garage where the bike is until the weekend to check myself.

[zadar]

216mm.

[muzikill]

Zadar these are the measurements on mine..... i went up tonight to check (changed the spark plugs and the air filter on the cage whilst i was up there!)

Driveshaft (the shaft that has the selector drum, 2 selector forks) the shaft the connects to the chain that drives the back wheel
200mm

Transmission (the takes the power from the crank through the clutch)
215mm

These differ from yours!

[zadar]

Driveshafts is same on all, 200mm.
Countershaft 99-03 is 215.8mm and 04-up is 217.5mm.
Little under 2mm difference.

[muzikill]

ta zadar, sorted for specs for some calls tomorrow - 2mm diff! - wtf, why did they bother changing it eh?

[zadar]

Change is cases.

[barwel1992]

Change is cases.

out of curiosity what are better ?

[zadar]

No difference imo. 2nd gen cases are better just for fact they are deeper and oil pick up is little better. Still not fix if you like wheelies :). In same time they are worst in other aspects.

[barwel1992]

No difference imo. 2nd gen cases are better just for fact they are deeper and oil pick up is little better. Still not fix if you like wheelies :). In same time they are worst in other aspects.

cool, interesting that they haven't changed them for the newer models if there are still design flaws

[zadar]

Design flaws are not issue if bike is used as intended. Street guys don't have much problems, it is racers that find flaws :)

[barwel1992]

ahh i see, or people like me that like to pi$$ around with stuf :D

[muzikill]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160401309100&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123

bought! - 01 gearbox with 8k miles on it (so they say!), you take yer chances.

Thanks for the advice!

btw. i noticed loads of flaws in the cases when i split it, the area between the crank and maximum downstroke of the pistons doesnt 'meet' when the two cases come together, plus loads of raggy edges around that area!

[muzikill]

Driveshafts is same on all, 200mm.
Countershaft 99-03 is 215.8mm and 04-up is 217.5mm.
Little under 2mm difference.

I'm reviewing this thread before i put the cases together, your earlier post says it's the driveshaft that's different but this post says otherwise. Plus i dont know what you mean by 'countershaft'. All i can see in the official manuals ar transmission and drive shaft. If you can re-clarify this i would be grateful!

[yorkie_chris]

Drive shaft is obvious (drives sprocket), the countershaft is the other one because it spins counter to the driving (crank) and driven (output) shafts.

[zadar]

Yep, drive shaft is the one with sprocket.

[muzikill]

Ok, so i should check my transmission (countershaft) lengths just in case?

sorry for going on a bit but i am being very, very cautious. the missing taper on the gear on the transmission kinda freaked me out ....

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah check to be safe.

If you get them wrong I think it ***** up fitting the clutch