Sorry, Sorry, GSXR conversion question

[Jordysport]

Apols i am sure you lot have heard it all before, but my calipers are siezed and pads and discs arn't looking healthy hence i am looking at a GSXR front end conversion, i would like inverted forks, for the unsprung weight. and the bigger gixxer calipers for the better braking.

i am very mechanically minded (Motorsport Engineer) and been working on cars. and from looking at the front end its only 8 bolts holding the front end on: (4 bolts on each yoke) is this correct..

what front end do i need ???? GSXR 600 , 750 , 1000 (what years??)

and i need the forks down??

Do i need the yokes aswell etc etc .

any other advice,

where to buy them from Ebay? breakers?

Many thanks

[Bibio]

you need a complete front end preferably from the same bike. wheel, mudguard, callipers, yokes and so forth.

[Jordysport]

you need a complete front end preferably from the same bike. wheel, mudguard, callipers, yokes and so forth.

Apolygies i am very new to bikes, could you explain.

so i need a front end from the same year bike as my own (2004)

obviously i need everything below the forks (wheel mudguard calipers, discs pads)

the yokes? are they the top and bottom bits that the forks bolt to?

if i need the yokes aswell, how do the yokes bolt to the frame?? or is it headstock?

thanks for your patience.

[Bibio]

yes you need everything including the yokes (complete front end) from a GSXR preferably from years 2000 onwards. you dont have to match the same year as your bike. to stay safe go for gsxr 600/750 2004-2005 as there are a lot of permutations that fit those forks using different callipers discs and so forth.

[stew]

from what i have read

you need

taperd head stock bearings
top and bottom yokes (yep the bits the forks conect to)
forks
calipers
wheel ect

then you have to find away of getting the spedo to work, if you have the sv650 s you need the clipons from a tl

i also think there is somthing with the brake lines aswell

but im sure that someone who has done it will be along soon to tell you more.

[DarrenSV650S]

The handiest link ever :) http://www.gregoryli.com/search/label/DIY

[Jordysport]

from what i have read

you need

taperd head stock bearings
top and bottom yokes (yep the bits the forks conect to)
forks
calipers
wheel ect

then you have to find away of getting the spedo to work, if you have the sv650 s you need the clipons from a tl

i also think there is somthing with the brake lines aswell

but im sure that someone who has done it will be along soon to tell you more.

i thought the Tapered head stock bearings were only for curvys not pointys??

[Bibio]

you dont need tapered bearings. but since your in there then why not do it and never look at them again.

go and find a pair of forks you would like to use and post a pic or tell us the bike and year they are off and we can take it from there.

[stew]

oops

didnt see it was pointy
1 to many stellas me thinks

[Jordysport]

http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=102045

Something like that, pretty shnazzy

don't know what i need really.

[yorkie_chris]

Info for modern stuff
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=135430

If you are mechanically minded then what made you think 54mm worth of USD fork will fit through a 41mm hole? :-P

[Jordysport]

Info for modern stuff
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=135430

If you are mechanically minded then what made you think 54mm worth of USD fork will fit through a 41mm hole? :-P

As i said i am mechanically minded but i am NOT a biker, i have been riding for 4 days, on a 125, passed my test, and its my first bike. i am starting to get used to how simple bikes are compared with cars but i am not there yet. and i didn't know the fork diameters.

[Jordysport]

So what do i need if i wanted to fit 2004/05 GSXR 600/750 front end:

"2004/05 600/750 (same)
gold/chrome legs, gold calipers
300mm rotors
850 springs
30mm offset, 54mm lower clamp
Right offset ignition top clamp, 25mm bore"

So i will need:

- Wheel
- Caliper
- Discs, Pads
- Spindle, Forks
- Top Clamp (sorry name has evaded me)
- Lower Clamp
- Clip ons?????
- Brake Resivoir and lines

and from my understanding that bolts with one Bolt through the headstock with bearings at each end.

this may sound silly, so apolygies first. can i take the fairings off a Gixxer 600 04/05 and take the headstock bolt out and take the whole front end off, and bolt it on the frame of the SV??

[yorkie_chris]

It would be cheaper and easier to fix your calipers.

But GSXR kit is pretty good, though don't rule out the possibility of having to rebuild your new calipers anyway.

Basically, take an entire front end from any GSXR. To keep it simple don't mix and match from different years, though this can be done.

Cheapest and easiest USD is probably the Y-K3 GSXR750 parts. Decent forks, decent calipers, wheel looks same.
The steering stops and steering lock will function properly.

Is your bike an S model or a naked? It's harder with naked as you need to mount handlebars and clocks. S model is relatively easy.

You'll also need a different speedo sensor but that's simple enough.


Wrt head bearings, any GSXR from 1996 to present uses the exact same bearings as your SV, so it's up to you whether to replace with new while you're in there. If your SV has fairly low miles it's pretty likely it has stock bearings, in that case you can probably drop the GSXR parts straight on without changing a thing.

[yorkie_chris]

this may sound silly, so apolygies first. can i take the fairings off a Gixxer 600 04/05 and take the headstock bolt out and take the whole front end off, and bolt it on the frame of the SV??

You don't need to take the fairings off but yeah pretty much.

It's not a bolt per se, the step is pressed in to the bottom yoke, there are 2 castellated nuts on top to adjust the bearings. Little bit of a knack to doing them correctly but not much.


04/05 parts will bolt on same as the 00-03 parts I mention, just more expensive because they are newer and radial brakes.

[Jordysport]

It would be cheaper and easier to fix your calipers.

But GSXR kit is pretty good, though don't rule out the possibility of having to rebuild your new calipers anyway.

Basically, take an entire front end from any GSXR. To keep it simple don't mix and match from different years, though this can be done.

Cheapest and easiest USD is probably the Y-K3 GSXR750 parts. Decent forks, decent calipers, wheel looks same.
The steering stops and steering lock will function properly.

Is your bike an S model or a naked? It's harder with naked as you need to mount handlebars and clocks. S model is relatively easy.

You'll also need a different speedo sensor but that's simple enough.


Wrt head bearings, any GSXR from 1996 to present uses the exact same bearings as your SV, so it's up to you whether to replace with new while you're in there. If your SV has fairly low miles it's pretty likely it has stock bearings, in that case you can probably drop the GSXR parts straight on without changing a thing.

Found quite a useful thread for anyone looking at doing this:

http://eviltwinsbk.com/forumz/index.php?topic=91.0

Mine is a Pointy SV S it is manufactured in january 2004 on a 53 plate so is this a SV SK4? so using a 2004 GSXR 600/750 should be fine,
and mine has 25k miles but the head stock bearings have been changed last year.

Tbh the brakes are the most important thing so i don't mind paying £500 for a decent setup as new Discs, Pads, calipers are that for the SV!! so my logic is i may aswell upgrade.

Thank you for your help Btw, i know how frustrating it can be with a noob :smt016

[yorkie_chris]

You will need to change at least the lower bearing then to ensure they match.

Your calipers are probably fine if fettled, your discs are probably fine, and pads are cheap. I think you're going about this for the wrong reasons TBH, you should be able to ride the *rse off your current suspension before upgrading IMO. But don't let me stop you.

[Jordysport]

You will need to change at least the lower bearing then to ensure they match.

Your calipers are probably fine if fettled, your discs are probably fine, and pads are cheap. I think you're going about this for the wrong reasons TBH, you should be able to ride the *rse off your current suspension before upgrading IMO. But don't let me stop you.

no trust me there F**ked the pad retaining pin is siezed after a days of soakin and trying, plus the pistons are siezed, the discs have massive lips on them and the right bends alot more than the left.

[yorkie_chris]

So drill a small hole to drift the pin out, those seizing is standard. Pump the pistons out by using hydraulic help and a G clamp and clean the crap from behind dust seal. Replace the discs with some used items.

PM Berlin or husky03 on here, berlin probably has discs and/or calipers and husky03 probably has some refurb'd calipers.

[Jordysport]

PM'd

but if i was to look at the gixxer conversion where would i look at getting the parts?? any suggestions. not too many on ebay, and going to try some breaker searches

[yorkie_chris]

Breakers, ebay, GSXR forums

[Speedy]

Or ebay.com

LOADS of complete front ends on there....minus wheel.
They will ship to UK too....(I was going to get a whole front end shipped over but some had scratches and I'm a real fussy bugger! :-P)

[Jordysport]

Or ebay.com

LOADS of complete front ends on there....minus wheel.
They will ship to UK too....(I was going to get a whole front end shipped over but some had scratches and I'm a real fussy bugger! :-P)

yeah theres a really nice set for £600 odd posted.

[Speedy]

Well.....I paid £500 for a set of forks, lower tripple, axle and calipers a couple of weeks ago....UK seller though, but like I said, I'm ultra fussy, these are MINT-MINT condition.
I don't need the controls or top yoke etc as I've got a "special" top yoke and I will be using the original SV master cylinder etc....

[Jordysport]

Ok seriously looking at this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270738356095&category=35595&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

will i just need the Wheel and discs to go on from a similar model.
plus what do you think of them is it a reasonable price, may be able to knock a hundred off or so, if not to go through ebay massive fee's. (but still paypal goods.

[yorkie_chris]

Looks good, might be worth contacting Dan Sewell at TWF racing though, he's got some for sale. IIRC, USD350 for forks and yokes.
http://www.dansewell.com/SVParts/

For the comparable price you should easily be able to source some TL1000S clipons and a braided line kit. You don't need or want the GSXR switchgear or clipons really.