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hongman
28-06-11, 09:34 PM
Thought so.

Heard some tall riders complain about the angle at which their legs/knees stick out make it harder, but I couldnt see how!

ibanezlynx
29-06-11, 06:25 AM
When i ride my knees are quite high. when i put my feet behind the footrest my knees go lower. I'm not that tall at 6 ft. I guess i just need more practice. Ill try pushing my knee down rather than out. I didn't realise people rotated on the seat. I'm sitting as far as i can forwards and then slide sideways off the seat.

The Idle Biker
29-06-11, 06:36 AM
If you have sports handlebars, put your head down and around the side of the bike, like you are trying to look around it. Get your bum right off the seat and get your bum in line with your head. Stick your lowest foot on the end of the peg. Try it on a roundabout where you have good visibility of the junctions and select a smooth gear not first which can be jerky on an SV. Try that. The longer legs you have, the better.

hongman
29-06-11, 07:36 AM
You want to sit back, not forward

-Ralph-
29-06-11, 08:27 AM
Nice one mike, can get on now with getting faster instead of getting your knee down ;)

:smt038

It's allllllll about the body positioning.

It is indeed, and it's not about very much else

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg86/AJBRADBURY1979/kneedown.jpg

Yep, you've pretty much got the right look there mate :cool:

I ain't had my knee down in about 6 or 7 years... I've only done it on the SV, Gixer or the triumph I haven't been near... I'll be like a little kid again if I do it...

And this is the fastest road rider I know.

Yer decided against the teardrop ones, I wont be able to swap them over and everyone will know I cant get the left knee down.

:smt046 Busted!

Just to show that you can be fast without getting your knee down

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230717_10150248017485465_521470464_8932156_2248299 _n.jpg

Most folk can be a lot faster without their knee down. I wear textiles, so no knee sliding for me (though I do have one knee sown up, but that was an accident), and I can't count how many riders I've followed on rideouts, where they are climbing over the bike and hanging off like a monkey (they look just like Andybrad does in that playpark actually), knee down on corners, and I'm sitting behind them swearing at them to stop rrsssing around and get a frikkin move on.

Knee down on the road is purely for fun or novelty, do it once or twice to give you a grin, but please don't do it every frikkin corner, it's really annoying for the guy stuck behind you. The number of riders hanging off and you think "Yeah, well done! Now what about the next corner which goes the other way? You've got to climb right over the other side that bike again, and your going slower than me, 'cos you need to give yourself the time to get into position for the other knee down. Your holding me up and I'll I did was countersteer and shift one butt cheek". If your not hanging way off one side of the bike, you can change direction as quick as you can think, you don't need to move that far.

Keep it for the track where you do the same corners over and over and have plenty time to set up your body position before each corner, and don't need to change direction quickly. That's where knee down will make you quicker. On the road climbing over the bike like a monkey slows you down. It's smooth riding and the ability to adjust to changing conditions makes you quick on the road, not fancy riding.

Dave20046
29-06-11, 08:44 AM
taller is much easier, i go out riding with a guy who is quite tall 6'3 ish, and he can get his knee down by barley leaning off the bike as his knees stick out so far/

I don't know, I'm 6,2 get my toes down every so often ,front and back tyres used right to the edge and I hang off a bit and I've only ever scraped a knee twice.
I figured if your taller your knees are higher up making it a bit harder ,but I accept I probablyonly think that because I can't really do it!

hongman
29-06-11, 08:44 AM
Most folk can be a lot faster without their knee down.

This.

I'm one of them, on and off the track!

Tis purely fun for me :)

mister c
29-06-11, 09:14 AM
I still tend to move around on the bike as it feels more stable (to me anyway) in the bends, but its very rare my knee comes out, like people say, it's novelty value more than anything else

-Ralph-
29-06-11, 09:59 AM
I still tend to move around on the bike as it feels more stable (to me anyway) in the bends

That's because the suspension works better if the bike is a bit more upright and allowed to move, whereas if you sit bolt upright and lean the bike right over, your asking the bike to do all the work and you just have to go with it, you have no flexibility. Less important on tourers and stuff where the suspension has been set up that way.

Shoulders & head (happens anyway if you're counter steering correctly) in normal A to B riding, and if I'm cracking on a bit or worried about the lean angle I'll shift one butt cheek off the saddle (much like the guy in that picture I suppose), and keep my knee in so my textiles don't risk touching the ground (that's only happened once anyway). None of this inside of the feckin' knee hooked over the saddle nonsense.

I used to ride with the instep on the pegs most of the time unless I was going into a corner where I would wreck my boots, so your toes give you plenty of warning on lean angle anyway. Don't do that anymore due to back problems and instructions from the physio.

nik_nunez
29-06-11, 11:42 AM
i go much faster without my knee down, sometimes you spend so much time trying to get it down you lose alot of speed, saying that the last few track days I went KD crazy when ever a camera was close ;-)

Wideboy
29-06-11, 12:43 PM
It's not really easier with longer legs, higher the pegs the harder it is to get your knee out far enough. Im 6'3 and i find a rediculously large amount effort is needed getting the knee down on the sv but the thunderace is a piece of cake in comparison, personally I put it down to the distance between seat and peg is less on the sv even tho the sv handles like a 250 in comparison

paiste
29-06-11, 10:37 PM
Have to say, Paiste, your KD avatar is one of the best, think the facial expression makes it!
Thanks!! Was quite difficult to stay on. Mind you James Toseland is impressed with my body position and the fact that I'm looking through my imaginary corner. Pity it's on a spring loaded child's toy and not a real bike! One step at a time though;)

Noble Ox
24-07-11, 11:12 PM
Got mine down for the first time on Saturday. Was extremely excited. 3rd time trying (as in going to a roundabout for 15 mins x 3).

I found it pretty hard and I'm a tall one too!

First out of all my mates makes it even better!

Amanda
24-07-11, 11:32 PM
Knee virginity broken yesterday :D

Reeder
25-07-11, 01:13 PM
Yayyyyy!

Bibio
25-07-11, 04:17 PM
i tend to sit pretty much upright and manage just fine going round corners, i also keep my feet well in as i'm tight fisted and don't want to buy new boots.

SV Mad
25-07-11, 06:31 PM
Got mine down for the first time on Saturday. Was extremely excited. 3rd time trying (as in going to a roundabout for 15 mins x 3).

I found it pretty hard and I'm a tall one too!

First out of all my mates makes it even better!

And on a fine looking K6.....well done. I don't think I've got the kahoonas to get that far over.

Winder
25-07-11, 10:56 PM
I can touch the right knee down all day long but having trouble with the left, the hanging off position feels horrible! Anyone else get this?

Reeder
25-07-11, 11:37 PM
I can touch the right knee down all day long but having trouble with the left, the hanging off position feels horrible! Anyone else get this?

Yup! Takes a lot more effort with the left and feels really odd. I don't like it much.

hongman
26-07-11, 06:46 PM
Obligatory tooting my own horn:

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johnmaciver32
26-07-11, 07:26 PM
I first managed it 12 years ago on my first sv..the local council set aside some land for an industrial estate, put in a lovely roundabout, no pavements and loads of run off if needed..then ran out of money, so it was never used..
We managed to learn just how far the sv could lean...not hanging off but still scraping knees pegs, even standard exhaust too..
We got so brave we learnt how to powerslide out of roundabout too...never tried on main roads though..

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Dave20046
26-07-11, 07:33 PM
haha nice work hong, I didn't bother take a pic of but today's the first time I've properly and consistantly got it down ...all thanks to my secret weapon :)

Boots are shagged

hongman
26-07-11, 08:00 PM
You too Dave, cant wait for the next!

Dave20046
26-07-11, 08:29 PM
http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9728&d=1311712117
:(

hongman
26-07-11, 08:56 PM
:cheers:

beabert
26-07-11, 09:04 PM
Now your kit looks a mess. Not good enough, get ur head down.

Dq-OMUwg2Gw

Milky Bar Kid
27-07-11, 04:36 AM
Dave, I may be totally wrong and as I've never even attempted getting my knee down feel free to ignore this, but are you not supposed to keep toes on the pegs to avoid that happening?

danf1234
27-07-11, 06:16 AM
Having seen the way Dave hangs of the bike in corners, I am surprised that he doesn't have scraps on his elbows as well lol

Specialone
27-07-11, 06:20 AM
Having seen the way Dave hangs of the bike in corners, I am surprised that he doesn't have scraps on his elbows as well lol

He hangs off on the straights lol

Dave20046
27-07-11, 08:08 AM
Dave, I may be totally wrong and as I've never even attempted getting my knee down feel free to ignore this, but are you not supposed to keep toes on the pegs to avoid that happening?

That's with my toes on the pegs!

Dave20046
27-07-11, 08:09 AM
He hangs off on the straights lol

There was a kink in the road!:smt019

Reeder
27-07-11, 09:08 AM
They're called toe sliders for a reason ;)

You must be getting some serious angles to wear down your tootsies like that!

Milky Bar Kid
27-07-11, 09:13 AM
That's with my toes on the pegs!

Are you a lanky git with big feets? I suppose with my feet only being little it will make a difference as for mine to scrape like that I would have to have worn down a fair bit of peg first!

Wideboy
27-07-11, 09:16 AM
It's one of the problems that comes with lanky-itess, my toes are nearly poking through my sidi's

I'll stick up for you Dave, you lanky streak of pi55

hongman
27-07-11, 09:21 AM
In all seriousness I think feet size do make a huge difference. A lot of the time when I'm not in the "prime" position and I have my knee on the deck my toes slide too - and I have teeny kids feet!

Dave is a lanky bastad also.

Lucas66
27-07-11, 09:26 AM
i think its large feet as well kos im 6ft 1 and size 11 feet and find once knee goes down toe also goes down. only pics of me knee downing is my first track day last year.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj34/lucaszs07/124199_412126.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj34/lucaszs07/124192_412116.jpg

Reeder
27-07-11, 09:39 AM
I was told that your toes are meant to be in a position to touch down anyway once you get really far over, basically so that you avoid digging your pegs into the road?

Dave20046
27-07-11, 09:45 AM
I was told that your toes are meant to be in a position to touch down anyway once you get really far over, basically so that you avoid digging your pegs into the road?

Yeah, I have the slider protruding slightly over the edge of the peg so as not to dig in a peg. Hero blobs removed too!
And yes it's due to my lanky body proportions/elevensies, to get my knee down I found my toe has to be scraping and it's a case of bending my ankle and tucking my toe in a teeny bit.

Whitty
27-07-11, 10:44 AM
Wore a hole in my boot yesterday at cadwell, Didnt realise till too late. Thought I was still on dregs of slider!http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/Whitty3372/_MG_1934.jpg Left one ok but so many right handers killed right one!

AndyBrad
27-07-11, 10:50 AM
still cant do it :(

kaimera
27-07-11, 11:04 AM
got down at mondello a few weeks back.

right knee at turn one but pushed too hard and the back end let go on the exit.

knee was down first tho! had been scraping the pegs most of the day

metalhead19
27-07-11, 11:57 AM
When i did Mallory Park last month, i spent some of the afternoon with both knee and peg down :shock:

Webber
27-07-11, 06:38 PM
Knee down -:p
Elbow Down -:cheers:
Head Down - :smt104

Dq-OMUwg2Gw

Bluefish
27-07-11, 08:04 PM
http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9728&d=1311712117
:(
Expensive business this getting your knee down eh dave? ;)

beabert
27-07-11, 11:10 PM
[QUOTE=Webber;2580054]Knee down -:p
Elbow Down -:cheers:
Head Down - :smt104


post 126 ;)

Reeder
30-07-11, 11:58 PM
http://tapatalk.com/mu/56a1eaa0-9a94-0ef4.jpg :)

svrich
31-07-11, 09:01 PM
Tart!
How busy has that road been recently? I want to get out there but can't be arsed with all the slow holiday traffic.

Reeder
01-08-11, 10:18 AM
Tart!
How busy has that road been recently? I want to get out there but can't be arsed with all the slow holiday traffic.

Not TOO bad but a lot busier. I tend to ride it in the evenings normally though so it's a lot quieter then. Noticed a lot more bikes and horses are using our twisty backspace round here at the moment which is putting me off biking as sooner or later there's gonna be an accident with them going 5mph round a bend in a NSL area. The Hadiscoe bend bits are a complete no go at the moment. Always busy and has patches being resurfaced so there is just random patches of the loose gravel at the moment mid corner.

svrich
01-08-11, 09:53 PM
Haddiscoe is always too busy to properly enjoy, and the large ditch and no escape route on each side are never inviting places to be.
Looking into Snetterton in a few weeks, a much better place to get the sv wound up :)

Reeder
02-08-11, 08:32 AM
Ooooo, if only I had the funds to join :(
The ditches make it more of a challenge. Get it right or you're going in :-P

svrich
02-08-11, 02:23 PM
£85 and maybe another 10% if you mention the .org by phone. You know you want to!

Reeder
02-08-11, 02:24 PM
Keep me informed and I shall think abouts it. Im proper poor at the moment :)

hongman
02-08-11, 02:35 PM
Stop spending all your money on knee sliders then :D

Reeder
02-08-11, 02:51 PM
My sliders are actually holding up very well to be fair. I can recommend Wiz :D

hongman
02-08-11, 02:52 PM
Get your a$$ over to the AR. End of thread.

Reeder
02-08-11, 03:19 PM
Can't afford it.

hindle8907
02-08-11, 03:35 PM
Can't afford it.

beg borrow steal :rolleyes:

get an overdraft from your bank and pay it back a bit a week that's what I'm doing.

Reeder
02-08-11, 03:39 PM
Debt just to meet you guys :-P?

hongman
02-08-11, 03:41 PM
...

Reeder
02-08-11, 03:43 PM
:)

bob-mk1
03-08-11, 12:25 AM
I've only once managed to get my knee on the ground whilst on an SV and that was leaning off scary amounts and felt like the handlebars were gonna hit the curb first!! :P

paiste
17-08-11, 11:29 AM
Right. I had a bit of knee down action on the way home last night, but felt a bit of resistance rather than the plastic dragging feeling that you usually get. I'm after help here because I'm obviously doing something fundamentally wrong here! can anybody who is knowledgeable about these things tell WTF is wrong with my body position to cause this......

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj163/paiste75/IMAG0263-1.jpg

Didn't feel like I was hanking off too much :confused:

Mr Speirs
17-08-11, 12:12 PM
I'd be tempted to say its one of two things. Your leathers either don't fit right or rather than putting your knee out you were putting it straight down.

Just guessing though, very strange to see it that far up.

Nick_69
17-08-11, 12:28 PM
Very strange to see that. My knee sliders are used at the top leftish side but no where near that high lol. It cld possible be that your leather are to long for you.

paiste
17-08-11, 04:48 PM
Very strange to see that. My knee sliders are used at the top leftish side but no where near that high lol. It cld possible be that your leather are to long for you.

Yeah that could explain it but I'm 6'5" and these were the only leathers that were long enough! I'm baffled.
I "think" my body position was:
@rse crack on the inside edge of the seat with bum about in the middle of the seat. Outside foot with the midfoot to heel on the peg. Inside foot with ball of foot on the edge of peg turned slightly outwards and heel on heelplate with leg out (hopefully!) Upper body leant into the corner with inside shoulder dropped into the corner with my chin almost in line with the mirror looking through the corner. Now this is what I thought I was doing :rolleyes: but my leathers say otherwise. Maybe I'll ask Toseland about it next week, I'm sure he'd enjoy nothing more than trying to explain body position to a complete numpty :smt044

Wideboy
17-08-11, 04:52 PM
pull them off the velcro and move them to the top of the pad and forward a bit, i had to do that as my sliders where wearing funny at the top. either that or like said your leathers dont fit properly

Dr. M
17-08-11, 07:25 PM
Right. I had a bit of knee down action on the way home last night, but felt a bit of resistance rather than the plastic dragging feeling that you usually get. I'm after help here because I'm obviously doing something fundamentally wrong here! can anybody who is knowledgeable about these things tell WTF is wrong with my body position to cause this......

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj163/paiste75/IMAG0263-1.jpg

Didn't feel like I was hanking off too much :confused:

Whoa that looks wrong haha, but atleast you know the leather's good for what ever speed you were doing, without burning through!

on a different note.....

I GOT MY KNEE DOWN!! I was so happy at the petrol station I walked up to a random biker and told him haha :D then every chance I got after that on the way home, Digging those knees into the ground!

After months on end since getting the SV, I've been trying to no avail. Scraping my pegs all day but no knee down. Watched the Motogp on Sunday and it suddenly clicked! (my body position was fine, but I was putting my leg out at a right angle to the bike without any effort to actually go down towards earth. I was basically hoping I'd go over far enough that it'd make contact, turns out my knee was sticking less far out than the foot pegs haha!)

Anyway... enough of me getting excited, I think I need to go lie down :D:smt044

_Stretchie_
17-08-11, 07:42 PM
I got my left down too recently, just not alot of places to do it around here, time to get some titanium sliders????

Am I REALLY that much of a tart???

The Idle Biker
17-08-11, 07:53 PM
From what I've heard.....yes.

HIPPLE
18-08-11, 11:47 AM
Done!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230150_10150204515818489_515608488_6932097_2844325 _n.jpg

Only got my sliders today :)

...and dusted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCtjTHkx0g

HIPPLE
18-08-11, 12:09 PM
As the advert says..

..Just do it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCtjTHkx0g

mister c
18-08-11, 01:37 PM
I take it you got your knee down then? 2 posts about it. Well done.

Milky Bar Kid
18-08-11, 01:42 PM
Twonk.

_Stretchie_
18-08-11, 01:57 PM
From what I've heard.....yes.

Yeah, going to borrow Squirrells first to see if they are any different, some forums say they feel different.

Specialone
18-08-11, 06:03 PM
As the advert says..

..Just do it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCtjTHkx0g

Could've probably chose a quieter island maybe but good work.

lukemillar
18-08-11, 09:09 PM
As the advert says..

..Just do it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCtjTHkx0g

Jeez, another douche ridding round in 30mph circles and videoing it, just to show his mates how much of a douche he is...

Awesome work dude!

Tim in Belgium
18-08-11, 10:35 PM
duude, sweet....

SoulKiss
18-08-11, 11:22 PM
Jeez, another douche ridding round in 30mph circles and videoing it, just to show his mates how much of a douche he is...

Awesome work dude!

I think we established that over here (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=169884) :)

BaP
25-08-11, 06:46 PM
Sorry to bring this up again but need some input.

I was kindly allowed some time on the track at Castle Combe yesterday after helping out at The Bike Experience with Talan, The Idle Biker and co.

Conditions could not have been better, hot and grippy. Even with this, I still didn't manage to get my knee down. I did, however, scrape peg and toe and my tyre is worn right to the very edge. I had an instructor following me (for around 4 laps so I didn't get swallowed by faster riders) who said body position was fine and knee was close but no touch down.

Now, I don't think there's much more I can do given that peg and toes were on the floor, bum was right off the seat and my knee was pointing out so far it hurt. I think leaning further will just cause an accident? I don't know how much more you can lean over on an SV when the peg starts to scrape?

A few theories - I'm just too much of a short person with short legs.
Body position still not quite right and something that can't be seen from behind?
Also - perhaps a suspension set up problem? GSXR 2005 rear shock is in.

I've given up trying given that if it was going to happen - it would on a track and I'm not about to crash trying on a roundabout/corner. Just want to try and pin point a problem, if there is even one, for next time!

hongman
25-08-11, 06:56 PM
A few theories - I'm just too much of a short person with short legs.


Bollox, I'm 2" tall ;)

I'm betting you didnt have your **** back (v important with shorties, gives you a bigger angle from hip to knee) and/or you we'rent dropping your shoulder.

BaP
25-08-11, 06:59 PM
I think you could be right. Without a photo very hard to tell. As has been said - you feel like you're miles off the bike but in fact you're still pretty much sat on top of it. Trying to find the pics from the T/D as I remember being flashed at but no luck as of yet.

**** was back though. And knee very much out.

Dave20046
25-08-11, 09:28 PM
Bollox, I'm 2" tall ;).
Is that a typo? I'm sure you're nearer 2' tall




:razz:

I find it impossible to keep my **** back :(

Mr Speirs
25-08-11, 09:44 PM
I reckon BaP that you are aiming your knee at a right angle outwards, which will hurt and be more difficult to touchdown. It would also mean you weren't dropping your upper body position so your head it still on top of your bike but your **** is off.

You should be rotating around your tank so your knee is actually going forward and down rather than straight out.

This is me at Cadwell:
9809

If you notice my **** is at a diagonal angle to the bike, so there I have rotated my body around the tank, shoulder is also slighty dropped but not much.

I guess the best thing you can do to help yourself is concentrate on getting your shoulder round and dropped a wee bit, the knee will automatically get round and dropped along with that.

And get into that position before the corner not during.

Hope that helps, let us know how you get on.

hongman
25-08-11, 10:32 PM
Is that a typo? I'm sure you're nearer 2' tall




:razz:

I find it impossible to keep my **** back :(

Son of a bit

:smt088

Scythe92
25-08-11, 10:53 PM
I went out for a blast at the weekend, chicken strips are down to about 2-3mm but it felt as if my front end was going to slide out going around a roundabout, felt like I had lots of understeer which I'm sure isn't right!

Nick_69
26-08-11, 08:56 AM
I went out for a blast at the weekend, chicken strips are down to about 2-3mm but it felt as if my front end was going to slide out going around a roundabout, felt like I had lots of understeer which I'm sure isn't right!

Could be suspension not set up right or a cold front tires on the edges. I get it sometimes when I push on to early

Cursed
26-08-11, 11:26 PM
Sorry to bring this up again but need some input.

I was kindly allowed some time on the track at Castle Combe yesterday after helping out at The Bike Experience with Talan, The Idle Biker and co.

Conditions could not have been better, hot and grippy. Even with this, I still didn't manage to get my knee down. I did, however, scrape peg and toe and my tyre is worn right to the very edge. I had an instructor following me (for around 4 laps so I didn't get swallowed by faster riders) who said body position was fine and knee was close but no touch down.

Now, I don't think there's much more I can do given that peg and toes were on the floor, bum was right off the seat and my knee was pointing out so far it hurt. I think leaning further will just cause an accident? I don't know how much more you can lean over on an SV when the peg starts to scrape?

A few theories - I'm just too much of a short person with short legs.
Body position still not quite right and something that can't be seen from behind?
Also - perhaps a suspension set up problem? GSXR 2005 rear shock is in.

I've given up trying given that if it was going to happen - it would on a track and I'm not about to crash trying on a roundabout/corner. Just want to try and pin point a problem, if there is even one, for next time!

Ahem. Im pretty new to the forum, and I dont wanna get shot down, but I saw this and thought I could contribute.

Anyhow, I know alot of people have a problem with hanging off too much, so they then have to turn their crotch (haha he said crotch :smt024) back in towards the bike to stay locked in, therefore when they stick their knee out, its not actually sticking out sideways, but more towards the front of the bike.

I realise you said you had an instructor follow you for a few laps, but I think it could be quite a hard thing to diagnose if you are only slightly too far off. Next time try and consciously make an effort to keep your whole body parrallel to the bike as you hang off, so if your **** is off 6 inches, your head is off 6 inches, and your core is off 6 inches.

One other thing you could try is putting the ball of your foot on the end of the peg, it makes a for a very good pivot point so you can comfortably get your knee out nice and far. The End :rolleyes:.

lukemillar
26-08-11, 11:35 PM
I reckon BaP that you are aiming your knee at a right angle outwards, which will hurt and be more difficult to touchdown. It would also mean you weren't dropping your upper body position so your head it still on top of your bike but your **** is off.

You should be rotating around your tank so your knee is actually going forward and down rather than straight out.

This is me at Cadwell:
9809

If you notice my **** is at a diagonal angle to the bike, so there I have rotated my body around the tank, shoulder is also slighty dropped but not much.

I guess the best thing you can do to help yourself is concentrate on getting your shoulder round and dropped a wee bit, the knee will automatically get round and dropped along with that.

And get into that position before the corner not during.

Hope that helps, let us know how you get on.

Hmmm, I usually stay out of stuff like this, but that is a really crossed up body position.

Rotating around the tank is a bad idea, especially keeping your chest head above the tank while sticking your @ss out. you need to keep your spine parallel with the centre line of the bike and shift your upper body to the inside as well.

Scythe92
26-08-11, 11:52 PM
Could be suspension not set up right or a cold front tires on the edges. I get it sometimes when I push on to early

Had been out on the bike for about two hours, so surely not?

Might look into getting it set up properly, but it doesn't have adjustable suspension do they?

Lozzo
26-08-11, 11:55 PM
Hmmm, I usually stay out of stuff like this, but that is a really crossed up body position.

Rotating around the tank is a bad idea, especially keeping your chest head above the tank while sticking your @ss out. you need to keep your spine parallel with the centre line of the bike and shift your upper body to the inside as well.

I was always told to try and get my body position to a point where I'd be looking through the mirror if it had one. Whole body off the bike, but spine parallel to the centre line, the one ar5e cheek you have on the seat should be at the back in the seat, ball of inside foot on the end of the peg and foot swivelled so heel is inwards and locked against the heelplate, outside leg braced against the tank putting weight onto the peg to steady the bike, elbows down and face looking through the corner at where you want to be. I tend to swivel slightly at the hips if I want to get my knee down because with these stumpy legs I need all the help I can get in that respect.

I'm no fantastic rider, but christ do I look like a riding god when I'm cornering at 30mph :-)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2377343887_689792bfd1_z.jpg?zz=1

Dave20046
27-08-11, 08:31 AM
Son of a bit

:smt088
:lol: I better watch my back, I'm popping down to Harlow today. Wish I'd thought ahead and took the bike

hongman
27-08-11, 11:48 AM
:lol: I better watch my back, I'm popping down to Harlow today. Wish I'd thought ahead and took the bike

Where are you? Should have met up (still can if you see this in time)...

The Idle Biker
21-06-12, 09:03 PM
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd400/IdleBiker/TBE/Snetterton2012.jpg[/URL]

Showing off. Bad Idle, bad bad!

Mikey10
22-06-12, 01:54 AM
seen this has been bumped again had a little read through saw you guys comparing postions and have a good example of checas team mate not quite a full lean but show his body postion for the left hander at foggy esses donington.
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h452/Mikeyyart10/davidg.jpg
basically as far as i know from watching racing and listen ing to people who teach this.
your body postion for every corner stays pretty much the same its the lean angle that changes and bring your knee in and out once at the angle to avoid higher apexs etc..

Elliott
22-06-12, 04:23 PM
I think my riding style is very close to how i want it, very planted and setup in corners take a lookies:

http://i.imgur.com/HvxrG.jpg

or

http://i.imgur.com/fB7HA.jpg

Mikey10
22-06-12, 06:33 PM
ye looks fine to me obviously what ever is most comfortable is best you should'nt be forcing yourself to hang off more than you can my picture is what i consider a good example watching max biaggi or lorenzo shows you good smooth style relexed body postion when cornering.