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DJFridge
06-02-12, 09:51 PM
Personally, I have nothing against the IAM (although the Top Gear IAM driving actions made the little boy in me laugh a lot) but they do seem shoot themselves in the foot quite frequently.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2012/February/feb0612-iams-unfair-claims-over-bike-safety/

speedplay
06-02-12, 09:54 PM
Didnt even bother clicking on the link when I saw Motorcyclenews in the link.
What a load of rubbish they seem to come out with on a regular basis.

andrewsmith
06-02-12, 10:03 PM
*awaits Lozzo's comments*

Its the MCN the reports potentially wrong

Edit: Badly reported

Here is the IAM press release (I am member for the record) http://www.iam.org.uk/news/latest-news/972-eighteen-motorcyclists-killed-or-injured-a-day

Specialone
06-02-12, 10:04 PM
For once though, mcn seems to be accurate.

I started a thread last week regarding the 4% drop in motorcycle ksi's.

andrewsmith
06-02-12, 10:08 PM
For once though, mcn seems to be accurate.

I started a thread last week regarding the 4% drop in motorcycle ksi's.

I can put money on that the mileage covered is higher than normal

Red Herring
07-02-12, 11:13 AM
I acknowledge that the IAM have been a little bit crafty with the statistics, but that's not exactly new with any group campaigning for a particular aim. What is a shame is that MCN failed to include exactly why the IAM are releasing these figures which is at the end of the press release.

“The increase in motorcycling casualties is worrying especially while casualties among car drivers continue to fall. The government needs to ensure that education campaigns targeting motorcycling continue and funding is made available for local initiatives. The police and councils must continue to work together to improve high risk routes, encourage post test training and target bad riding behaviour through innovative enforcement techniques.”

I know as riders none of of believe we can do wrong and personally I'm not in favour of using legislation to sort it, but the reality is that the vast majority of riders could do a whole lot better than they do at the moment. The IAM happen to believe better training is the way forward, and I support that.

Biker Biggles
07-02-12, 01:44 PM
Im not so convinced about "innovative enforcement techniques"though.That smacks of big brother satelite surveillance and more "management" from the great and good.We can all do without that.
Must go and watch Enemy of the State again.

Red Herring
07-02-12, 02:52 PM
Or it could just mean getting police officers out and about catching the offenders. It's been so long since that happened it could be considered "innovative".......

ogden
07-02-12, 02:57 PM
"The police and councils must continue to work together to improve high risk routes, encourage post test training and target bad riding behaviour through innovative enforcement techniques."

I'd rather they left me alone, tbh. I've spent years honing my bad riding behaviour and I like to think I've pretty much got the hang of it.

Nobbylad
07-02-12, 03:25 PM
I'd rather they left me alone, tbh. I've spent years honing my bad riding behaviour and I like to think I've pretty much got the hang of it.

:D

Red Herring
07-02-12, 05:50 PM
I'd rather they left me alone, tbh. I've spent years honing my bad riding behaviour and I like to think I've pretty much got the hang of it.

Hopefully sometime soon someone else will get the hang of it to....:cool:

EssexDave
07-02-12, 06:24 PM
In all seriousness, whilst I appreciate the IAM is using one quarter to make the stats show what they want - that is the time when most riders are out, doing the most miles, and at most risk because of the weather, the racing season is in full bloom etc.

The fact cycling accidents have increased significantly is probably to do with more people cycling, and more people cycling more often due to increases in travel costs. You really notice the amount of cyclists out now.

Additional education - especially if free, is never going to be a bad thing.

Dipper
07-02-12, 08:40 PM
There could well have been a 7% fall in car use, a 2 % increase in motorcycle use and a 4% increase in cycle use compared with the same quarter last year. These statistics mean nothing if they are not quantified.

I agree with Dave that education is key to reducing collisions, the number of times I've heard "well it was my right of way" after someone has had an accident, seems to say accident avoidance is not top priority in some peoples minds.

Lozzo
07-02-12, 10:11 PM
So the IAM spout some useless bollox and MCN report it in their inimitable crap manner... where's the news?