Smaller chicken strip at front than rear?

[Cursed]

Anyone else had this on their SV?

Was running a pair of Michelin PR3's which had virtually no chicken strip at the front, however a decent 1/2 inch at the rear. Just fitted a brand new pair of Michelin Pilot Power 2CT's and they seem to be going the same way, although I've only ridden them for 100 miles. Both sets standard sizes.

Anyone have a reason for this? I thought it could be the profile of the PR3's but the 2CT's are kinda doing the same.

Its not a massive problem is just a bit concerning when I try to push a little harder that the front may wash out.

Cheers.

[flymo]

tyre geometry, pure and simple. Just make sure your pressures are set correctly and she'll be right.

[NTECUK]

Smaller type .different profile

[jambo]

Do you brake into bends?
Do you get on the throttle from apex to exit?

Would you say your rear shock or your front forks make you feel more confident?

[Cursed]

Do you brake into bends?
Do you get on the throttle from apex to exit?

Would you say your rear shock or your front forks make you feel more confident?

Tbh I'm normally not going fast enough on entry so find myself accelerating from the beggining of most corners, however not pinning it obviously. Theres 0.8 K-tech fork internals in the front and they feel good, I'd say the rear feels a bit wibly wobly though.

[tonyk]

what tyre pressure have you got. i got 36 front 42 rear.

[Fozzy]

What! I've 33 front in my rp3's and 36 rear. That's what the Sv manual says.

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[flymo]

should be 33 front and 36 rear unless otherwise stated by the tyre manufacturer for your specific model.

[Cursed]

Yeah running the stock pressures...

[GowerSV]

Yep exactly the same for me on my 2011 on stock D220's. I wonder if screwing down the front shocks to max will help. I'm 6' and 14stone. Standard tyre pressure. I just assumed this was the situation with the SV. My other bike, DL650 has slightly wider front strips. I also wonder if riding position affects this - I am usually hard against the tank.

[flymo]

there is nothing wrong with chicken strips, forget them and ride.

[Elliott]

Isn't it just down to counter-steer? That's how I've been taught anyway.

[AkiraSV]

Pretty much the same on mine, I just figured it's down to some physics lark.

[ChrisCurvyS]

Yeah isn't it simply because the front wheel moves from side to side as you countersteer in the corners?

Mine have always been like that on two different types of tyres. Getting to the last mm of chicken strip on the back though as I've got more confident with cornering and just about started touching toe sliders.
Hooray!

[SoulKiss]

You could always do what I was advised to do.

Get new tyres.

Arrange to meet some mates 50 miles away.

Use Google Maps to find the nearest petrol station to meet point - its important not to use this petrol station as the meet point.

Deflate your tyres to about 8psi front and back.

Ride to petrol station 40 odd miles away, inflate tyres to standard pressures.

You will have no chicken strips and the tyres will be all bubbled, like you just came off a track.

Your friends will think you are a Riding God.

Extra Marks if you can produce a receipt that shows the tyres were brand new just an hour or so ago.

[Fozzy]

LoL.

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[flymo]

Yeah isn't it simply because the front wheel moves from side to side as you countersteer in the corners?

Mine have always been like that on two different types of tyres. Getting to the last mm of chicken strip on the back though as I've got more confident with cornering and just about started touching toe sliders.
Hooray!


errr, no. The tyres are simply different profiles.

What is it with chicken strips and the need to show that we are somehow better riders by the size, or lack of them. Who gives a cr@p. Ride safe and enjoy yourself!

[chezvegas85]

had to look up what chicken strips were (noob)... excuse me i'm off to investigate mine lol

[hardhat_harry]

What chicken strips :p

[chezvegas85]

about an inch on both tyres, looks like I won't be riding in the motoGP anytime soon =)

[gt900uk]

I noticed this also. Whilst i am not adverse to having chicken strips ( Im no riding god) the front tyre of the SV has almost none and the back still has about an inch. On my CBR600F it was the other way about there was about 5mm on the back and much more on the front. I assume its just something to do with the geometery of the bike.

[flymo]

tyre geometry and of course, pressure.

[BlackFlag94]

I have the same problem as most of you guys..

tyre geometry and of course, pressure.

You say its pressures, what pressures would you recommend?

P.S.... Tyre Geometry?

Part of my problem is that I have BT-016s front and rear and they take a while to warm up, however I push hard after 3 or so miles. As a result I get some cold tears but these go away after a day of riding.

I have classic bike geometry problems on my front tyre as in less than 1000 miles I have worn the right side down to the wear indicators (not due to going round and round roundabouts). I have a set of Hagon Progressive fork springs ordered and getting fitted next week with 15W when my K3 is getting its major service. Hopefully this is going to sort out my geometry.

BTW my tyre pressures are 34.5F 43R. I've been told this is about right but I'm guessing I need to decrease the front so I have more weight transfer onto the front?!

Sorry to Hijack :rolleyes:

[flymo]

I was referring to tyre geometry, not overall bike/suspension settings. The shape of the tyre is defined by its design and construction. Some tyres have a different cross sectional profile than others, race biased tyres for example have a more pyramid or triangular shape than road tyres to provide maximum grip when leant over.

The tyre pressure for road tyres is defined by the bike manufacturer unless otherwise stated by the tyre manufacturer for your specific model of bike. If the tyre is properly inflated to this pressure, fitted to the original spec wheels on that model of bike then the geometry will be as intended by the manufacturer. If the pressure is too high or too low then this will alter the geometry and affect handling, stopping distances, wet weather grip etc.

[BlackFlag94]

I've had tyres to manufacturers specs before and the wear was far worse... what pressures and tyres do you run and do you get the same issues? Basically if you don't get this problem what pressures do you suggest?

I'm changing my fork springs to stiffen the front end because clasically the front end slips due to the rear being too high/hard and the front being too low/soft. I'm stiffening it because the standards forks and internals even with 15W oil (I weigh 11st7lbs) are hitting the bottom yoke even though the tyre isn't out of grip. This is happening when going round corners and subsequently the travel is maxxed and I slide

[flymo]

I've had tyres to manufacturers specs before and the wear was far worse... what pressures and tyres do you run and do you get the same issues? Basically if you don't get this problem what pressures do you suggest?

I'm changing my fork springs to stiffen the front end because clasically the front end slips due to the rear being too high/hard and the front being too low/soft. I'm stiffening it because the standards forks and internals even with 15W oil (I weigh 11st7lbs) are hitting the bottom yoke even though the tyre isn't out of grip. This is happening when going round corners and subsequently the travel is maxxed and I slide

Narrower or wider chicken strips is not a problem, just a characteristic of the tyre as mentioned, given the same bike/rider/conditions.

For the road, I run stock pressures straight from the manual. So, you are getting front end slides while cornering huh? I would be impressed to watch that.

[keith_d]

FWIW I see the opposite on my VFR. The chicken strip on the rear is normal, and there's loads of unused rubber on the front tyre. But who cares, just get out there and enjoy your riding.

[BlackFlag94]

When cornering hard and close to knee touching down I can feel my hands going further away from me as I go round the corner from where the front is sliding. It's a horrid feeling and takes away a lot of my confidence for the rest of the ride. happens from apex onwards.

[speedyandypandy]

What chicken strips :p
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