The Truth About Sport Products

[metalmonkey]

Did anyone watch, just started watching it now on my Sky plus.

Its pretty interesting, so far its clear that sports drinks don't really produce a benfit unless your endurance training. Pretty much when I do training ride say about 40-45 miles I generally munch a cake or jelly babies then coke or hot chocolate depending on the outdoor temp, then refill my water bottle. I guess sugar water would be useful, I think we worked out that on ride like that we probally burn about 3000-3500k, so you have eat becasue glycogen stores are about 2000k this all a rough estimate clearly as depends on how fit your are ect!

I have dumped fruit juice as my breafast drink in favour of water, way too much sugar in it, not good if you want to lose weight.

[Sir Trev]

Loved the bit where they interviewed the footballing kids who had fallen for the shiny adverts. Not much different to Capri Sun pretending to be a "healthy fruit juice". The olympic cyclist letting us in on his secret of jam sandwiches was also very telling.

[Mark_h]

Loved the South African guy who could not keep a straight face when asked about sugar-free sport drinks.

Jam Butties will be repackaged as "Mega pro ion max plus" or something similar and put in a fancy box!

[NTECUK]

They teach this at my sons school.

[Luckypants]

Didn't take a rocket scientist to work that one out.... Riding a bike I burn around 700-900 calories an hour (I'm a fat git, so have to work harder than most...) So I'm OK for a 3 hour ride. So if the ride is over 3 hours I'll take an energy drink and take it from the off to put the energy into my body before I start to run low on glycogen stores... Also take food for longer rides. I run out of energy at around 5000 calories consumed unless I eat a lot. Running about in football or rugby will not burn that level of energy, you are not working for long enough.

For shorter rides I use an electrolyte only drink to replace the minerals I sweat out (see fat git comment), because for all sport you need to be well hydrated - it doesn't have to be a sports drink, water is fine.

[fizzwheel]

The olympic cyclist letting us in on his secret of jam sandwiches was also very telling.

Graham Obree used to train on Marmalade Sandwiches, similar reason I would suspect.

[DarrenSV650S]

Lucozade tastes amazing. I don't drink it expecting to become an athlete :)

To be an athlete you need to eat subways

[Littlepeahead]

Some of the England cricketers have jam sandwiches and jelly beans. Stuart Broad took 11 wickets in the last Test at Lord's and he'd been eating my triple chocolate fudge cake which I made for him specially. 300g of chocolate and half a pint of double cream just in the icing, before you count all the butter and sugar in the cake itself!

[metalmonkey]

Graham Obree used to train on Marmalade Sandwiches, similar reason I would suspect.

It was the man himself.

So pretty much apart from hard work, pain and eating well there is no off the shelf solution to getting fit. There really is no good reason to be over weight either, by that I don't mean BMI it pretty easy to know if your fat just look down. Another thing is its not just the fat thats on the outside, it whats deep inside your body that casue the damage.

[scottomus0]

The programme was so biased and one sided it was retarded.

Read this:

http://blog.predatornutrition.com/2012/07/20/the-truth-about-sports-products-programme-review/

[Dicky Ticker]

Explains why cricket stops for tea and cake then:)

[metalmonkey]

The programme was so biased and one sided it was retarded.

Read this:

http://blog.predatornutrition.com/2012/07/20/the-truth-about-sports-products-programme-review/

Coming from people who want to sell you products, well of course they will argue its baised!

A bit common sense applied will go a long way, when I go home and I play with my dog he knows when is he hungry or thirsty so shouldn't the same apply for us?

[flymo]

Didn't take a rocket scientist to work that one out.... Riding a bike I burn around 700-900 calories an hour (I'm a fat git, so have to work harder than most...) So I'm OK for a 3 hour ride. So if the ride is over 3 hours I'll take an energy drink and take it from the off to put the energy into my body before I start to run low on glycogen stores... Also take food for longer rides. I run out of energy at around 5000 calories consumed unless I eat a lot. Running about in football or rugby will not burn that level of energy, you are not working for long enough.

For shorter rides I use an electrolyte only drink to replace the minerals I sweat out (see fat git comment), because for all sport you need to be well hydrated - it doesn't have to be a sports drink, water is fine.

this post goes well with your avatar LP ;-)

[Spank86]

If sports drinks wanted to be effective they'd be packed full of glucose and taste terrible (like the original gatorade), instead they want to sell units so they're packed full of fructose and other sugars which dont give you all the benefits of glucose but taste sweeter (yes they break down partly to glucose but thats work your body has to do and only partly to glucose anyway).

[smithy17]

i'm going into my third year at loughborough university doing sports technology, we cover a lot of this kinda thing and the real benefits are only really seen in people training to the absolute peak of performance. for the majority of people the same or greater benefits would come from tweeking their diet and liquid intake. the effects are minimal but if your an athlete training at the elite level anything is worth a go.

best example to give is the coloured kinesiolgy tape you see athletes in a variety of sports wearing to support soft tissue injuries. this tape is only really effective for the first 20 minutes when applied, after this the tape has often stretched so the effect is psychological... the same goes for many sports products. you think it will help therefore you don't worry about that aspect its supposed to help, therefore it seems easier.

[metalmonkey]

Well I cycled 45 miles on breakfast, Jelly babies, a can of coke and about just 1 litre of water. Though I did score a free doughnut at the local store:D Food line up is whole pasta, chicken, veg, salad, garlic, pesto (green) cheese, herbs and probally red wine the pump needs an oil;) So I'll probally burn about 4000/5000cal ish today.

[maviczap]

Well I've been cycling for a long time now, both racing and pleasure.

When I was racing in the 90's that was the start of a lot of these sports drinks, I remember buying a tub of Gatorade when it first appeared and having Maxim carb drink for training.

But I can't say with any great conviction that any of the drinks have made me go faster or feel better when riding, but its always good to hydrate during a ride. Plain water is ok, but I do like a bit of flavour.

But, I do notice the difference in post ride aching legs by drinking a protein drink, I wish these had been available in the 90's.

Graham Obree could have won most things on plain water and cream crackers if he'd wanted too, as he was naturally talented and trained exceptionally well & hard, no pain no gain. That would go for a lot of our athletes.

These sports drinks give them a marginal gains like smithy says, but all these marginal gains make them champions above the also rans.

[Von Teese]

I only drink them because I like the taste!

Mr VT was telling me about this programme, I didn't get to watch it.

To be fair in the middle of endurance day of a 3 day event, I don't think I would cope with someone giving me a jam sandwich in the 10 minute box just before I started the cross country phase. I would probably end up throwing up all over my horses' necks. I usually drink a bottle of sport drink to combat the thirst and I don't 'do' plain water or fizzy drinks so it's a good compromise.

[NTECUK]

My son likes the blue powerade .
I asked him if it helps his swimming training
"No dad it tastes nice".

[monkey]

I didn't see it but can someone summarise:

Do the sugary/salty drinks re-hydrate people quicker than water? I swear I feel the benefit. I also use the re-hydration sachets after a good night on the booze.

[Spank86]

Didn't see it but no they don't rehydrate you quicker than water.

[Stenno]

I watched this the day before buying new running shoes and it completely soured my shopping experience. Ended up picking them based on colour in the end.

[maviczap]

Do the sugary/salty drinks re-hydrate people quicker than water? I swear I feel the benefit. I also use the re-hydration sachets after a good night on the booze.

Its the combination of water & sugar that make you feel better quickly, the water in the product re hydrates you & the sugar gives you that boost of energy.

Same goes for the re-hydration sachets, after a good booze up, the body is dehydrated, so needs fluids. Which is why its a top tip to drink a pint of water before you go to bed after a night on the town, you'll feel better the morning after, but of course you'll have to get up to go to the loo more than once :D

[agy]

It's all a pile of c**p! Yet anther exercise in trying make people part with their money. I train loads! I'm into cycling and body building. I take nothing! All those people standing around in the gym drinking protein shakes thinking they look uber cool make me laugh. Vast majority of them don't train anywhere near hard enough to make any difference to their body composition and they seem to believe that drinking a magic shake will make them look amazing!
I never leave the house without chickpeas, broad beans, two boiled eggs, apples and water
Eat as mother nature intended and you can't go wrong.

[NTECUK]

Boiled eggs should be band along with egg and cress sarnies .

[agy]

a whole egg is one of the most nutritious things you can eat. I eat minimum two whole eggs every single day. If I want to add more whites I buy two chicks liquid egg whites so as not to waste the yolk :D

I LOVE egg and cress sarnies! my absolute favourite!!

[agy]

Boiled eggs should be band along with egg and cress sarnies .
you mean *banned* lol! you need to eat more nutritious eggs me thinks ;D

[NTECUK]

Hey its predictive text honest guv :)

[agy]

Hey its predictive text honest guv :)

Oh really...? Predictive text usually swaps words round as long as they have the same number of characters ;D

[Spank86]

But if he put in baned, it might change it to band.

;)

[NTECUK]

And 's up .
I can't spell for coffee ;)

[L3nny]

I have no idea if lucozade sport improves your performance during exercise and it's unlikely I will ever be in a situation where I would need it. However a bottle before you go to bed after a night out mixed with a resolve is a great way to reduce the severity of your hangover

[metalmonkey]

I have no idea if lucozade sport improves your performance during exercise and it's unlikely I will ever be in a situation where I would need it. However a bottle before you go to bed after a night out mixed with a resolve is a great way to reduce the severity of your hangover

OJ, something like porridge, friut ect is good the day after the greasy stuff really doesn't fix it, nor drinking coke as it simply raises blood suguar level, pumps caffin through you then you crash it just pronlongs it, beside caffin is a bad idea in that state anyways. Simply booze takes vitimam C out of the body and reduces bone density amongst many things!

Probally drinking a pint of beer, then a pint of water would help too. For the sake of figures, if a pint is 2 units it will take two hours to work through your body so go figure what an all night session would do...

[agy]

I'm about to do a few hours cycling. I have fueled on a bowl of porridge (not microwave type!) made with virgin coconut oil, handful of raisins, seeds and some desiccated coconut and coffee. Taking lots of water and money for more water. Why would anyone want to substitute the enjoyment of eating a delicious breakfast for a man made, artificial, disgustingly tasting drink full of sugar. Yuck

[maviczap]

That wasn't the point of the program, it wasn't suggesting that these drinks were meal replacements, but something you drink during exercise and were they any better than plain water.

[agy]

I know what the programme was about.
On my ride I will refuel by drinking water and eating oatcakes and bananas!

[maviczap]

Don't forget the sun block its going to be a hot one

[agy]

My version of a refreshing, post workout drink: smoothie, a bit of milk, soda water and ice cubes
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[NTECUK]

Alternatively
http://www.thefleeceinn.co.uk/storage/images/promotional-images/beer-and-burger2.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=13361334684 55

[Sid Squid]

Whaaaat? Super wonderful snake oil drinks and 95 quid trainers don't lift your performance to Herculean levels?

Just seeing the faux science in the adverts, (think of make-you-look-younger-cream ads too), shouts that it's not going to do what the subtly not-quite-said claims say it does in the case of 94% of the twenty-six people we asked who said that they thought it might have*.

The only thing I'm surprised about is that anyone is surprised.


*Sequence shortened and some steps omitted - the one you buy is nothing like the one we showed you on the telly.

[agy]

I most certainly am not surprised. I work in this industry and I see it every day. Makes me laugh so much when I see people coming in with those lucozade drinks (vile garbage) and consuming more calories at the end of their workout than they burnt off! 99.9% of people don't train anywhere near hard enough to account for the extra calories in this crap

[agy]

I am surprised and disappointed that humans by enlarge STILL fall for all kinds of advertising be it face creams, trainers, anything.... How can they be that gullible?

I believe in nothing and trust no one. Only hard facts! I.e if you look like ****, ain't no miracle face cream is going to help you! You want change, get plastic surgery! That is the ONLY thing that WILL work

[Spank86]

Yeah, you can look like Micky rourke.

[metalmonkey]

I most certainly am not surprised. I work in this industry and I see it every day. Makes me laugh so much when I see people coming in with those lucozade drinks (vile garbage) and consuming more calories at the end of their workout than they burnt off! 99.9% of people don't train anywhere near hard enough to account for the extra calories in this crap

Whats I noticed is that I feel better if you don't drink too much of them or eat junk but thats obvious, like anything everyone once in a while they are ok!

Marketing is a powerful tool, for that reason I despise MCD'S cause they focus their ads directly to Children, which really shouldn't be allowed at all.

[tactcom7]

Agy what shape is your interesting looking ice cube tray?

[agy]

this particular one is star fish shaped