Honda NT650V Deauville opinions?

[daveyrach]

Thinking of selling the SV and swapping for one of the above.

I personally find the SV uncomfortable on the arms and back and am looking for something more comfortable on my 13 miles commute through town.

Does anyone have any experience with them, I have always loved Honda's, I know some of you find them boring.

Cheers

[Paul the 6th]

Apparently they're meant to be a bit gutless from what I've heard. Thought about a v-strom maybe? Similar upright tour-ish riding position but the same sv engine, or with the bigger sv1000 engine tuned down but still with bags of torque..

Just a thought :)

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2005models/2005-Suzuki-DL1000V-Strom.jpg

[Tomor]

I have both the sv and dl 650 and the dl seems to pull better at low revs( probably due to the way it's geared) than the sv. Nice upright position and far more comfortable than the sv. I would say have a decent test ride on and and then go and test ride a deauville ASAP so you can gauge them together. I don't think you will be disappointed in the dl.

[daveyrach]

I quite like the built in panniers on the NT means I wouldn't need to lug a bag round. Any others with built in luggage?

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[tigersaw]

Had one.
Comfy. Feels heavy. Gutless but will go on all day.
One problem I had was awful win buffeting over the windscreen at motorway speed. I believe you can get an extension to overcome that.

[daveyrach]

Had one.
Comfy. Feels heavy. Gutless but will go on all day.
One problem I had was awful win buffeting over the windscreen at motorway speed. I believe you can get an extension to overcome that.

I very rarely use M-ways, my commute takes me through Reading town center then down the A329, rarely get above 40-50mph

[punkyp]

I did the handle bar conversion on my sv650 and haven't looked back. Worth a thought, if you like your bike and just want a more upright position.

[LankyIanB]

Deauville, somewhat bland to ride. Great weather protection in winter, Lack of air movement and heated air from engine cooks you in summer....

As for built in luggage - top box, either a proper one or do the "bolt to rear seat trick" that a number of people here have done...

[embee]

I've had an SV650S since 2001 and a 650 Deauville since 2002, so can probably give a reasonable comparison. They're chalk and cheese.

SV is lively, fun, reasonably lightweight, can do long distances but not it's strength.

Deau is sedate, sliced white-bread, a bit porky, comfy, very easy to ride, light controls (clutch etc), handles surprisingly well considering, linked Nissin brakes are quite decent, very good weather protection with a high screen fitted, will go all day and night then the next day.

Fuel economy on both depends how heavy handed you are, but quite similar in real life. Mid fifties usually, I get just into 60's on the Deau when holiday touring at speed limits.

Deau engine is near bomb proof, I know a courier on his 3rd 650, gets 150k miles before they start to get really too scruffy so he gets another one.

Some changes over time, 98-02 had Brembo brakes, useless headlight, small panniers. 02-06 had linked Nissin brakes (not quite as sharp but equally effective), slightly lighter engine internals, slightly better headlight, slightly bigger panniers.

The "700" (680) from 06 onwards is 4-valve FI, 650 was 3-valve-twin-plug and carbs. 700 significantly more torque (+20%), a little more power. 700 panniers got a linked "baguette" hole. All models have screw adjuster valve clearances, rarely need attention, 20-30k miles typically.

Only common issue with 650 is fuel pump, but easily fixed (new points or fit Facet replacement). A few 700's have suffered terminal wear of rear wheel drive splines (faulty spacer and no lube of splines, but not a common issue) and plug caps leaking sparks is not uncommon.

Paint suffers on engine cases and wheels to some extent, particularly those used all year round. Silver smooth Hammerite is favourite fix.
650 water pump cases can crack where exposed to salt/crud, easily seen and easy fix if a little costly (£60-ish).

If you view a Deau as a workhorse to do the job it was made for, then it delivers. Not exactly fun though. I like it. Excellent light tourer or commuter.

Plenty of info on http://www.deauvilleuk.org/forum/index.php
Does what it says on the tin. Look at it, that's what it does.

[daveyrach]

Brilliant comparison, that's all I want is a reliable commuter. The SV ain't it I'm afraid. Its to uncomfy.

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[tigersaw]

A CG125 is a reliable commuter

[coopesh56]

A CG125 is a reliable commuter

Have to agree, if its only 13 miles, think the Honda may be abit overkill, I rode a CG for five hours solid pretty much hen training for my test and it wasn't uncomfortable ... Plus you can pick them up that cheap you could keep the sv for fun :)

[daveyrach]

Prefer to have a bigger bike. Extra power is useful especially if I do decide to use M4. Also I occasionally use my bike ti go to my companies HQ in Warwick for training. Day to day its the 13 mile commute.

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[Pete7]

Davey, I have the naked curvy SV, brilliant around town for my daily commute to and from work as it's a much more up right riding position. Since its not a straight forward conversion you might be better off changing the position of the bars to give you a more upright riding position first before changing the bike. Would be cheaper.

Peter

[pete m]

Would have thought the C90 would fitt he bill ....just dont get the worst bike Honda ever put out - DL650 - heaviest slowest horriblist bike ...in fact do get it, and post the pic ! i need a good laugh :>)

[daveyrach]

Would have thought the C90 would fitt he bill ....just dont get the worst bike Honda ever put out - DL650 - heaviest slowest horriblist bike ...in fact do get it, and post the pic ! i need a good laugh :>)

DL650 is a Suzuki V-Strom. Honda never made a DL.

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[Tomor]

DL650 is a Suzuki V-Strom. Honda never made a DL.

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+1 i have one and its certainly not much slower than the sv...

[Stephen McG]

I have DV650 for 3 years, DV700 for 3 years, TA700 for 2 years now Gladius 650.
I commuted 40 miles (20*2) every day with 1st 3 bikes, hardly use Gladius to commute.
Go for the later 650 or 700 great for commuting - good mileage 60mpg easy
I did not like TA as it had tubed wheels.
Everyone says DV gutless, yes it is less powerfull than SV but if you use the gears (5 speed) and you know what you are doing then you can keep up with many bikes.
70 mph on DV is the same as 70mph on SV
You will see some for sale on above site - I still contribute to it.
SMcG

[daveyrach]

I assume u mean DL650 & NT700V???

What is a TA700?

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[Stephen McG]

If you get a deauville you will soon know the terminology.
DV650 is the 650 Deauville NT650V - easier to type
DV700 is the newer NT700V - came out in 2006
TA700 is the Transalp 700 - same engine as DV - lighter/retuned, a bit nippier
spoked wheels and tubed - punctures go down instantly - do not believe about slime/tyre sealer
I had it and it still nearly got me - the delay between nail and flat is measured in bits of seconds.
Tubeless gives you a better chance.
The only up side (in my opinion) is that a new tube is very cheap.
The 700DV has bigger panniers - will carry a laptop in LH one
The linked tube between panniers allows you to carry a baguette or tripod laterally.
SMcG

[Winder]

If your only in Reading you can have a blast on my SV650 with the flat bar conversion, it really does feel like a completely different bike

[embee]

....and don't confuse the NT650V (Deauville) with the NTV650, different animal.

[Sir Trev]

If your only in Reading you can have a blast on my SV650 with the flat bar conversion, it really does feel like a completely different bike

If he's doing 13 miles through Reading and down the A329 he's heading for Bracknell by the sounds of it. You can both give me a wave as you pass the Dell building!

[daveyrach]

Wokingham is where I commute to.

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