Help needed please......

[hazey1275]

Hoping someone will help me, i know i will be asking quetions that have been asked a thousand times. I had a bit of a collision with a mitsubishi warrior on thursday mornin and have damaged the lowers and upper left hand fairing. I was in the process of trading the bike in to get either a bandit 12 or sv 1000 unfaired, but obviously that idea has now bitten the dust. :cry: :cry:

Help needed:- Basically i want to streetfighter mv sv650s 2000, i need to know if the standard sv650 clocks will fit straight or will i have to modify the wiring loom?
I would like to know what gsxr front end bolts straight on and which rear shock would i need (15 stone)...


also as any one got any mad sv streetfighter pics for me for inspiration...

Ater staying up till 5am this morning reading various posts i know your all very helpful and any would be greatly appreciated :lol: :lol:

[trick]

front ends that'll bolt on are, GSXR 750 + 1000 from 2000 onwards, and the K4 GSXR600.

cant see any reaon why the clocks shouldnt just fit straight in as the 650/s are the same bike with a different dress.

there are also a heap load of plastics available to go on the front from pyramid plastics (mantis head is pretty nice)

TRICK 8)

[TSM]

what he did not say is that if you change the front end you will also need diffrent wheel, brakes, front hugger. Also the speedo needs to be moved and a bit of modding is needed.

To fit nakid clocks you will need diffrent fitting, they fit with a mounting onto the forks while on the faired the bracing ataches to the headstock and also supports the lights and fairing.

From what i read the main loom is the same upto the connectors that join to another loom into the lights and speedo, that second short loom would need to be changed.

This is what an SV650S looks without the fairings.
http://www.pyroserve.com/tsm/mysvwithnofairing.jpg

[trick]

what he did not say is that if you change the front end you will also need diffrent wheel, brakes, front hugger. Also the speedo needs to be moved and a bit of modding is needed.

so sorry, 'he' thought that was obvious. to clarfiy, you will (as mentioned) need a complete front end (even a tyre, just in case anyone else wants to bring that up to) :lol: :lol:

TRICK

[hazey1275]

Thanks for the quick response :D , i have found some sv650 yokes on ebay, now i dont now what to do as they are £30, and i suppose it would be pretty expensive for a gsxr front end. What would you guys recomend :?:

Any ideas on the rear shock :?:

[jonhunt]

new shape one on ebay have a look

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-SV-650-STREETFIGHTER-SWAP-OR-P-X-BIKE-TRIKE_W0QQitemZ4573558492QQcategoryZ9808QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[trick]

you can get a set of gsxr yokes for that much too if you look around a bit, (salvage yards, breakers, scrappies, ebay) then all you need to do is get a custom stem, much cheaper and not as many mods needed to fit it. you can get a complete front end and install it for under 500 if your lucky, allow about 650 though and you;ll get some pretty damn nice kit in there too. im allowing about 700 (inc a new front tyre for mine as my front is shagged now from taking corners)
let me know how you gte on and we can work through the change together if you want. ill pm you my email address and we can hare search results and ideas to help the swap go a bit faster for both of us.

TRICK 8)

[kwak zzr]

hazey1275 could'nt you find anything bigger to run in to?
hope you are ok :D err and can't answer your question sorry :roll:

[trick]

hazey1275 could'nt you find anything bigger to run in to?
hope you are ok :D err and can't answer your question sorry :roll:

lmao, yeah, its not like it can sneak up on you or anything, lol :D :D

[northwind]

No GSXR front bolts straight onto the carbed bikes... Your best bet is to get a set of SRAD 750 yokes, which are a near perfect match for the ignition lock and steering lock stops, and have a very similiar geometry, and then either swap the stems (this requires a small spacer to be made for the top yoke as well, though) or simply get the Twin Works Factory top bearing, $60 delivered from the US and that makes the SRAD yokes a direct swap. I did the bearing swap, it's less of a faf and getting that spacer made looked to be a pain. For all the price difference (few quid either way) I chose the option that I could do myself in a few minutes, instead of the one that meant finding engineering companies to do work for me...

Then, you can fit a variety of forks into those 50mm yokes- I used K2 750 forks, but you could use more recent 750s if you want the radial brakes. I used a SRAD wheel and axle, as they look identical to the SV rear wheel- more recent ones are a little different, but still close. The SRAD ones (and TL1000S and R, and early Busa) can be had in the same colours as the SV too which saves you spraying or coating them. Plus they're well cheaper than newer ones.

The SRAD yokes are slightly wider than the more recent ones so I spaced the calipers in slightly with M8 stainless washers. Obviously, this prevents buying a complete front end since you're using bits from different bikes, you could use all SRAD 750 bits- I only used the K2 bits since they're that bit more recent and it's easier to find good ones (plus the mudguard's nicer)

The speedo drive for the SV's run off the front wheel, but I moved the speedo drive to the rear- old trick, but one which IMO had only ever been done badly till I perfected it (not that I'm smug or anything! :)) and it's actually more accurate than stock... I've got a .doc writeup for this if you want it. Costs nothing to do short of a bit of time, if you own a grinder and you can solder a couple of wires.

It cost me, all in, around £600 I think- though that includes powdercoating both wheels, a new front tyre, and EBC Prolite discs. You could do it for a good bit cheaper if you're patient.

[trick]

oops :shock:
just assumed he had a pointy for ome reason, sorry bout that

TRICK 8)

[hazey1275]

Thanks again all, Northwind could you please send me that .doc file and also the address to get the Twin Works Factory top bearing please thanks for your help much appreciated. :D

Does anyone also know if there is a straight swap swing arm to allow for the larger tyre, i know jhs racing do one but is there a cheaper alternative :?:

The last question i've got (just tell me to shut up) is there any rear seat fairings that will bolt straight on to the curvy sv like the pointy seat or a gsxr seat :?: :?:

thanks again all..

[northwind]

Swingarms, I've not come across anything that fits without modifying, but there's ways of getting a bigger wheel into the stock swingarm- there's a Hinda one that's wider and will take a 180 (I think), again Twin Works Factory can help you with spacers for that- http://www.twinworksfactory.com/. The website's pretty ropey though :)

http://www.svraceshop.com/ can also provide a different approach to the bearings, and JHS used to do one as well- but I think both are a ball bearing/spacer arrangement which is clumsier and a bit more expensive than the TWF one. They also do the rear wheel spacers, and can machine a GSXR wheel to fit your swingarm if you want a matching wheel.

Or, there's a way of putting a GSXR1100 wheel in there, which I think is available on the main website? Or you can do a Bandit 12 wheel with spacers (again, looks just like the SV wheel) but there's no kits for that that I know of.

Any of those wheel swaps would knacker the rear wheel spedo thing though- there's other ways to do it but I'm not so up on those.