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northwind
12-04-06, 09:30 PM
Eh? That's the problem, See? You don't sell popular for knockdown money. A Niche market that there is not a niche for.
I'm completely confused. One second it's too expensive, the next it's too cheap?
The Basket
12-04-06, 09:36 PM
Hang on, I'm still asleep. Ah, awake now. The rrp is what i'm referring too. Plus insurance and petrol and so on.
A bike like the Bandit 12 may be cheap to buy but not to run.
The Thou may be popular with it's customers but if Suzuki don't sell them by the shedload then it will be dropped. Simple supply and demand.
chewy22
12-04-06, 09:45 PM
Hang on, I'm still asleep. Ah, awake now. The rrp is what i'm referring too. Plus insurance and petrol and so on.
A bike like the Bandit 12 may be cheap to buy but not to run.
The Thou may be popular with it's customers but if Suzuki don't sell them by the shedload then it will be dropped. Simple supply and demand.
Sorry long gone are the days when a manufacture can sell 4 to 5000+ units of one model a year in the UK 3000 is a very good number . We as customers don’t really count now as they “Suzuki” are producing a product now NOT a motorcycle.
Peter Henry
12-04-06, 09:52 PM
Rich..The RC8 is indeed a very focused V twin sports bike.If it comes anywhere close to the proto type then it should be pretty hot. Slightly more tuned Rotax engine that the Duke has. It looks a bit iffy in their orange but if they do it in black it should be a stunner. I mean you must remember that KTM do not go out to copy the look that other bikes have,when you can accept that then you can appreciate what their bikes are about.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5231/ktmrc899852qt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Flamin_Squirrel
13-04-06, 06:40 AM
We as customers don’t really count now as they “Suzuki” are producing a product now NOT a motorcycle.
Well duh :roll:
Jelster
13-04-06, 07:23 AM
Sorry long gone are the days when a manufacture can sell 4 to 5000+ units of one model a year in the UK 3000 is a very good number . We as customers don’t really count now as they “Suzuki” are producing a product now NOT a motorcycle.
Well last time I looked, Suzuki had quite a range of motorcycles. In manufacturing you bring a number of materials together, work on it and produce a product. That's what manufacturers do. If your trying to say that what they produce is a comodity, then what else do you expect ?
Suzuki is a multi billion dollar business and has such is not going to make anything it can't sell at a suitable margin, it would be foolhardy to do so, unless it was designed as an expensive marketing ploy (i.e. Honda's NR750).
Do you expect them to make a bike just so it suits 0.000001% of the population ?
Maybe they haven't stopped manufacuring the SV1k, but think about the UK market and what it likes. The 650 sells well becaus of its price and because it's cheap to run, insure etc. With the 1000 you're into sportsbike territory, and we are a nation of sportsbike lovers. The naked didn't sell, probably because it was a bit too plain and it never got the accolades it deserved, but that brings you back to the fact that the biking press, like the rest of the nation, love sportsbikes.
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The Basket
13-04-06, 03:12 PM
Suzuki is a company who wants ya money. That's why it's aftersales is so brilliant :roll:
If there was no money in bikes, Suzuki would make cars instead.
Ceri JC
13-04-06, 03:28 PM
You can get a pre regged thou for not much more than a brand new 650... Can't recall what Jimmy paid for his but it was silly money.
Yes, in some cases, you can even get them cheaper! Last year I saw a thou pre-reg'd for £3K (although it was a ginger so factor in £500 for a respray). If it had been available now at that price and I wasn't awaiting points/a ban, I'd snap it up. The ginger colour is even more acceptable now, given the Z350 and subsequently Focus ST etc. using it :)
Could be similar deals when the last few are being gotten rid of.
elmerfud
13-04-06, 09:47 PM
[quote="The Basket"]Hang on, I'm still asleep. Ah, awake now. The rrp is what i'm referring too. Plus insurance and petrol and so on.
A bike like the Bandit 12 may be cheap to buy but not to run.
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My bandit 12 was actually cheaper to run than the sv1k, b12 did more mpg and cost less to insure. I found the b12 only marginally more expensive than the sv650 and yes I have owned the b12, 3 x 650's and the sv1000.
The most costly bike to run I have owned so far was the vtr1000 - 30mpg and a rear tyre in 2.5k
I see a note in BIKe mag this maonth that SV1000s will be dropped.
Any truth in the rumour???
Dunno, but the SV1000 (not the S) has disappeared from the Suzuki GB website.
Suzuki will continue to make and sell both models of the SV1000, it's just that not all may be available in the UK. I've had some correspondance with the marketing director for Suzuki Australia and he states that there are absolutely no plans to drop it.
Rich..The RC8 is indeed a very focused V twin sports bike.If it comes anywhere close to the proto type then it should be pretty hot. Slightly more tuned Rotax engine that the Duke has. It looks a bit iffy in their orange but if they do it in black it should be a stunner. I mean you must remember that KTM do not go out to copy the look that other bikes have,when you can accept that then you can appreciate what their bikes are about.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5231/ktmrc899852qt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
jsut thought i would add, that is a nice bike :D
The SV1000 naked was dropped in the UK last year, whether the same will go for the S version this coming year is, as yet, unsure. It could be that the emissions regs for the old TL engine are too hard to get around.
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such a shame, i'd love an sv1000n black with black frame but can't get one
I'm pretty sure they're available in France and other European countries, and it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to import one (the warranty would still apply as you're in a European state).
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I'm pretty sure they're available in France and other European countries, and it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to import one (the warranty would still apply as you're in a European state).
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True...I spoke to one of the dealers about this on wednesday and he stated the same... (although in the same breath he also said that they dont really like touching "european" bikes) :?
I'm pretty sure they're available in France and other European countries, and it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to import one (the warranty would still apply as you're in a European state).
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True...I spoke to one of the dealers about this on wednesday and he stated the same... (although in the same breath he also said that they dont really like touching "european" bikes) :?
They don't have to like it, they just have to do it ;).
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I've asked at a couple of places, they weren't too keen... I'll see how I feel next year when I actually wanna buy something
Soul Reaper
08-08-06, 07:06 PM
The dark side are inline-fours such as Gixxers and R6s - don't go there, you'll lose your soul...
He's right you know you have to sign to say you dont want your soul before you ride a Gixxer away. I did get a good price for my soul though. :wink:
All this talk about souls ... souls are my nr 1 passion.
But, I would also like to see a rougher and meaner form of the sv1000 emerge, otherwise it would have to be a Tuono as the closest alternative.
Red ones
08-08-06, 07:10 PM
I'll just import a left hand drive one I think!
I've asked at a couple of places, they weren't too keen... I'll see how I feel next year when I actually wanna buy something
So much for that plan :lol: :lol: :roll:
Peter Henry
08-08-06, 08:09 PM
I think the key point is that much as you think the UK is a bike mad country,it does not compare that fantastically with many others. Therefore they will not continue to offer a bike which,( let's face it) has never been embraced that warmly by the general biking folks of the UK, if sales figures do not warrant it.
The customers they would lose by not offering the SV1000 is loose change compared with their overall sales world wide. :?
kwak zzr
08-08-06, 09:26 PM
give DK or TAZ a ring they import.
Filipe M.
08-08-06, 09:30 PM
I think the key point is that much as you think the UK is a bike mad country,it does not compare that fantastically with many others. Therefore they will not continue to offer a bike which,( let's face it) has never been embraced that warmly by the general biking folks of the UK, if sales figures do not warrant it.
The customers they would lose by not offering the SV1000 is loose change compared with their overall sales world wide. :?
He's right, you know? Take the portuguese example. We're always at the EC's tail, our wages are miserable compared to the UK, blahblahblah. But go for a ride and all the other bikers will be riding R1s, CBRs, GXRs and ZXs. Nope, not the 600. Thou's only, please. Nope, not 3 or 4 years old. Last years model, please, and that's only because next year's haven't arrived yet. I think I've seen the grand total of 3 SVs around here. Lost count of all the others... :roll:
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