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timwilky
13-04-06, 10:13 AM
My last 3 cars have all been Mondao's and I am due a change
My choice is somewhat limited. To the Ford, Puegot and Vauxhall range.
I am definately not into the small car so looks like Mondao, 407 or Vectra. and then my choices are limited
So do I go for : -
Mondao 2.0 Ghia TDCI 130 (Again) or Zetec S
Pug 407 SW 2.0 SE (Appears to be lacking)
Vectra 2.2 SRI
OK guys, which do I go far. Ladies what colour?
Ceri JC
13-04-06, 10:20 AM
I don't own one, but I've driven a few Vectras and Mondeos. I prefer the Vectra myself. As long as you're not expecting "fun" you won't be disappointed. Whilst the gearbox is better than the smaller Vauxhalls (corsas, astras, etc.) it's still not brilliant, but other than that, no real gripes. A good motorway car.
Chap in work has one which has been tastefully modified (debadged, irmscher matt black grill and lowered suspension) and it looks excellent. He also reckons firming the suspension up makes it a lot more sporty and really transforms the car.
You'll never go wrong with a Ford or Vauxhall..
Personally, I'd have the Mondeo TDCI. But I haven't had 3 already, like you!!
Give the SRi a go. You may find the indicators a pain. If you touch them they flash 3 times, like if your changing lanes, but try knocking the other way to cancel and it flashes 3 times the other way...... :D
A friend of mine was in a similar position and much preferred the Mondeo - I guess your best bet is to try them both....
Jelster
13-04-06, 10:48 AM
I have the previous shape 2.2 SRi and think it's a great car. It's happy to cruise at 3 figures, roomy enough to get the family in and I like the shape etc. The 2.2 is quite torquey, it's not match for for BMW330, but it's built relatively well. It also give a fairly firm ride, which I prefer.
I am considering down sizing actually, so the new Focus ST is sitting at the top of my list. In the Mondeo stakes, the ST220 is a nice motor, but a fair few quid more expensive...
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I don't own one, but I've driven a few Vectras and Mondeos. I prefer the Vectra myself. As long as you're not expecting "fun" you won't be disappointed. Whilst the gearbox is better than the smaller Vauxhalls (corsas, astras, etc.) it's still not brilliant, but other than that, no real gripes. A good motorway car.
Oi, nowt wrong with the small box range on the corsas etc. Short ratio boxes like the F13, F15 etc are great boxes, very very rare they go wrong and interchangeable (bar small block and large block engines).
The Veccy is a good cheap reliable car. If its the new shape, i'd say go for the 1.9 CDTi 150bhp version. LOADS of torque on it. If its the older shape, the 2.2 or V6 are the best to go for, the V6 is the better lump, but its not amazing. Drinks juice though when the right foot gets heavy.
The 2.2 16v is a good engine, but its got less power and a lot less torque than the CDTi version. Still, the 2.2 has got 150bhp and 150lb ft of torque (the CDTI will have morelike 250lb ft).
timwilky
13-04-06, 11:05 AM
unfortunately the lease company my employers use, do not appear to offer the ST variants, probably because resale values are low as it is naturally assumed the performance has been tested.
I could if willing to make a contribution (No, it is a tool and I begrudge paying tax on something I need to do my job) get the 136PS variants of the pug. The Vectra is supposed to put out 155 whilst the Mondao is about 130.
I know it is not all about power, I really want handling, stiffer suspension, better brakes etc That a higher perfomance car should bring.
Edit
Just done some tax calcs and it works out about £120 a year cheaper for me to get the 19.Cdti Sri even though the list price is £1300 more. ok diesel costs abit more but I should get better consumption.
Jelster
13-04-06, 11:14 AM
The SRi "should" have fairly stiff suspension, mine does.
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I was looking for a new motor recently and the Vectra SRi was on the shortlist.
Didn't actually test drive one but they get good writeups in the handling stakes
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/archive/?id=28906&x=124&y=3
I have the previous shape 2.2 SRi and think it's a great car. It's happy to cruise at 3 figures, roomy enough to get the family in and I like the shape etc. The 2.2 is quite torquey, it's not match for for BMW330, but it's built relatively well. It also give a fairly firm ride, which I prefer.
I am considering down sizing actually, so the new Focus ST is sitting at the top of my list. In the Mondeo stakes, the ST220 is a nice motor, but a fair few quid more expensive...
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My father and I both had the previous shape 2.2 SRI 150 and they are brilliant cars. 100% reliability, very comfortable, great driving position, nice engine characteristics, slick gearbox and they were a bargain at £13k new (heavily discounted when the new shape came out) which was amazing given the spec. Couldn't recommend them highly enough. The new Vectra is heavier but I'd get one albeit at 2 or 3 years old as they are well cheap due to the depreciation. Don't buy new!
Not Silver
Ahh Tara, I was gonna say Silver!
Nutty x
The SRi "should" have fairly stiff suspension, mine does.
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As far as Vauxhall "stiff" suspension goes :lol: Usually they wobble round corners.
95% of new vauxhalls need a lower spring setup. It effects the ride harshness, but boy does it make the cars stick to the road SO much better.
Miss my old suspension/wheel setup on the corsa, was a little go kart, but it was AWFUL as standard.
northwind
13-04-06, 12:26 PM
Vectra in the dark green, for some reason they look far better in that colour than anything else IMO. Very flattering. But then, I like dark green cars ;)
White Verctra or Mundaneo. Always wera a white shirt when on the motorway and watch the traffic get outta ya way ;)
Can you get a Citroen C5?
White Verctra or Mundaneo. Always wera a white shirt when on the motorway and watch the traffic get outta ya way ;)
I used to have a white Cavalier company car, which was in time replaced with a white Vectra. Always wore a white or light blue shirt.
Works like a charm ! :D
Jelster
13-04-06, 01:12 PM
As far as Vauxhall "stiff" suspension goes :lol: Usually they wobble round corners.
95% of new vauxhalls need a lower spring setup. It effects the ride harshness, but boy does it make the cars stick to the road SO much better.
Miss my old suspension/wheel setup on the corsa, was a little go kart, but it was AWFUL as standard.
You may consider yourself to be be a petrol head, (Although Air Head is probably more fitting) but for the average guy driving a half decent motor there is F*** all wrong with my suspension, and it's much better than the "bouncy bouncy" Mondeo's and Jap saloons I've driven...
The SRi is already over an inch lower than std, if I lowered it any more I wouldn't make it past the speed humps down the road....
God you have a condesending attitude at times !
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You may consider yourself to be be a petrol head, (Although Air Head is probably more fitting) but for the average guy driving a half decent motor there is F*** all wrong with my suspension, and it's much better than the "bouncy bouncy" Mondeo's and Jap saloons I've driven...
The SRi is already over an inch lower than std, if I lowered it any more I wouldn't make it past the speed humps down the road....
God you have a condesending attitude at times !
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Uh? I wasn't being nasty???? Whats with the attitude????
Im talking about vauxhalls in general? Seeing as i own a 2.0 16v converted corsa, and we own a 2.0 16v Turbo 6 speed corsa, and the fact i've been a club orgenisor for Corsasport, Migweb, AstraSport, VXLSCC (Offical approved vauxhall sports car club), oh, and we now own an Astra VXR, i'd say my knowleged on vauxhalls will be quite good. Fords, Vdubs etc, basic, but vauxhalls, i know my sh1te...
You may THINK your suspension is great, but go on some twisty B roads or a track and you'll see how inferiour standard vauxhall suspension setups are......
Oh, whats this as well? Well only the Fastest Vauxhall Corsas from all over the UK, and the fastest saxos from all over the UK on a 0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed challange.
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/1295/corsavsaxo2.jpg
Notice who the gaffer is in the top left ??????????
PS, it isn't an inch lower at all, thats a 25mm drop.
As a guide, the sporty range models usually are around 10-20mm lower than the standard setup. NOT 25mm.
So thanks for the "air head" comment (notice you had to put it small so not to look so much of an ass), but when it comes to vauxhalls, i know my sh1te.
Tell me, do you even know you engine code???????? Do you know what a 20XE, C20LET is?????? Whats it called when the electronics feck up and you need to plug your car into a computer at Vauxhall? You should know this??
Arrogent, yes, but then why not if i know my sh1te on that subject!!!!!! Its the inter feck net.
My god Jelster your car is 0.4mm higher than you thought !! disaster !! :wink:
Only joking lads, play nicely now.
:D
Filipe M.
13-04-06, 01:37 PM
Notice who the gaffer is in the top right??????????
Hmm... :-k nope :?
But there's a name just like yours in the top left
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Notice who the gaffer is in the top right??????????
Hmm... :-k nope :?
But there's a name just like yours in the top left
:lol: :lol: :lol:
ha ha, bugger, notice that, you quoted me before my edit ha ha.... WEll noticed :lol: :oops:
Which way is up again? :lol:
amarko5
13-04-06, 01:42 PM
My last 3 cars have all been Mondao's and I am due a change
My choice is somewhat limited. To the Ford, Puegot and Vauxhall range.
I am definately not into the small car so looks like Mondao, 407 or Vectra. and then my choices are limited
So do I go for : -
Mondao 2.0 Ghia TDCI 130 (Again) or Zetec S
Pug 407 SW 2.0 SE (Appears to be lacking)
Vectra 2.2 SRI
OK guys, which do I go far. Ladies what colour?
Tis a pity your range is so limited Tim :? the skoda octavia VRS is a nice car as is the renault laguna range.
out of the above choices, I think i would go for the Vectra :thumbsup:
My god Jelster your car is 0.4mm higher than you thought !! disaster !! :wink:
Only joking lads, play nicely now.
:D
Random fact.....
Did you know there are only around 500 road registered Cavvy Turbos!!! The rest have been stripped by people like me for their engines (Well, we stripped a calibra). The Cavalier turbo is becoming one of those cars with a place in history.
Prices are already going up, expect to pay £3000+ for a clean C20LET example with working 4x4 gear (4x4 system on vauxhalls is simply awful).
You can get a 1995 last of the Calibra Turbos for less than that!! :shock:
Jelster
13-04-06, 02:13 PM
Daimo, I don't really give a toss what car you own, how much tuning it's had, and what parts have been whipped off of other dead Vauxhalls. The discussion was about 3 particular cars (well 2 because nobody wanted to mention the Pug). The Vectra SRi is decent car as standard, and would fulfill the demands of every day driving by an every day driver. In fact, I rated it better than the Mondeo and less expensive than a BMW for similar performance.
Just just because it doesn't "compare" with your little crotch rocket you don't have to slag it off. And your tone was very condesending, that's what's with the attitude....
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Peter Henry
13-04-06, 02:15 PM
Has someone turned the elephant to face the wrong way or something? Bad Feng Shui in here! Bad Karma man! :wink: :P
Daimo, I don't really give a toss what car you own, how much tuning it's had, and what parts have been whipped off of other dead Vauxhalls. The discussion was about 3 particular cars (well 2 because nobody wanted to mention the Pug). The Vectra SRi is decent car as standard, and would fulfill the demands of every day driving by an every day driver. In fact, I rated it better than the Mondeo and less expensive than a BMW for similar performance.
Just just because it doesn't "compare" with your little crotch rocket you don't have to slag it off. And your tone was very condesending, that's what's with the attitude....
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You've mis read they way it was written then, i cannot accept responsibility for your own way you interprate (sp?) things. If you take it personnally, thats an issue you have, not me im afraid.
I was pointing out some points about standard Vauxhall suspension, keeping in tone and topic with the post.
Theres nothing to compare to my cars, i was handing some good information about ALL the vauxhalls suspension setups, Vectra included. I know my vauxhalls, and having some "person" off the internet calling me an airhead when they themselves don't really know FA about vauxhalls it seems, it makes me chuckle. I'll defend my point as i know im correct in what im saying. From what i gather, i've offered more facts about that car than all others combined so far. Im such a bad person.... :roll:
As i say, arrogent, maybe, but then who is someone of the internet to tell me to change?????
Sorry to the post started if this has become somewhat degraded by this, but i hate people who think they know everything.......... I don't know much about the finer arts of biking and i'll happily accept that, but one thing i do know is my Vauxhalls....
Happy easter. :wink:
Jelster
13-04-06, 02:24 PM
But I don't know every thing, I just know more than you.....
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amarko5
13-04-06, 02:33 PM
Daimo please don't take this the wrong way :wink:
we all like to improve our vehicles (well who wouldn't) but when I read about people spending 10 ,20 , 30 , thousand to make a saxo or corsa go several seconds quicker from 0 -60 and sit 20mm off the floor , I ask myself the question WHY.
You can go out and buy an Ariel atom for 30k that will **** all over the mods that have been done and handle like it's on rails.
most of these modded cars cannot even go over speed humps above 2mph and a lot that I have seen (larger tyres , lowered suspension ) cannot even turn the wheels for fear of them dragging the tyres on the wheel arches .
paint jobs and bigger engines :wink: yes i see the appeal but all this big bore exhausts on 1000cc engines , mega stereo's that make you deaf. :? I don't get it :wink:
maybe its an age thing but if i wanted a fast car I would buy a car that has had millions spent on development by specialists , and is built for the purpose :lol:
Just MHO.
Peter Henry
13-04-06, 02:35 PM
Swiss...Now don't you start with your attitude! :P :P
I'm sorry :cry:
I just wish we had group hug section :lol:
amarko5
13-04-06, 02:59 PM
I'm sorry :cry:
I just wish we had group hug section :lol: :grouphug: Just for you Swiss :lol:
Daimo please don't take this the wrong way :wink:
we all like to improve our vehicles (well who wouldn't) but when I read about people spending 10 ,20 , 30 , thousand to make a saxo or corsa go several seconds quicker from 0 -60 and sit 20mm off the floor , I ask myself the question WHY.
You can go out and buy an Ariel atom for 30k that will p*ss all over the mods that have been done and handle like it's on rails.
most of these modded cars cannot even go over speed humps above 2mph and a lot that I have seen (larger tyres , lowered suspension ) cannot even turn the wheels for fear of them dragging the tyres on the wheel arches .
paint jobs and bigger engines :wink: yes i see the appeal but all this big bore exhausts on 1000cc engines , mega stereo's that make you deaf. :? I don't get it :wink:
maybe its an age thing but if i wanted a fast car I would buy a car that has had millions spent on development by specialists , and is built for the purpose :lol:
Just MHO.
No offence taken mate, i get the same question all the time. I mean, i own a Corsa, a whatta?? A corsa, Muhahaaaaaha ha ha ha. Hopefully this will be some interesting reading for you :)
Thing is, i've owned this car since i was ummm, about 18. At that age, unless you have very rich parents or have struck it lucky, theres no way young drivers will get insured (unless its over £2-£3-£4k!!!) on fast (IMO, young drivers SHOULD be using small cc cars, they need the experience) or big cars (I reckon an Atom would be about £8k+ on insurance :lol: ) I remember getting an insurance quote on an Escort RS Cosworth at 18, £22,000!!!!!!!!
Unfortunatly, theres the "boyracer" population. Usually found on your local 1 way system or outside schools, MASSIVE exhaust, MASSIVE wheels, lots of rust, lots of neons. Boom boxes banging away. These are boyracers.
Theres thousands of us that are as much into our modified cars as a biker is to the IoM TT or putting a new rear can on his/her bike :lol:
Theres a MASSIVE community as well. Hundreds of web sites, cruise sites, model and car specific sites. I've spent many a year at shows, i've met some really famous people (partys with top models yadder, trips to other countries all free, free entrance to shows for the last 6 years etc :wink: ). You make some really good friends, and you can ignore those who you don't get on with.
Sometime, making a car into something its not is very forfilling. I.e, the Corsa range, 109bhp was the most powerfull engine in a Corsa B. The 2.0 16v goes fundimentally straight in (need new hubs, shafts, mounts etc) and straight away, 155bhp... (mine was a 1.4 16v, 90bhp before).
The brakes have gone from a 235mm, to a 256mm, to the current 288mm (As used by the Vectra/Calibra Turbos and V6's). I've also added rear disks instead of the drums, its stop an awful lot better, and goes a lot quicker.
Suspension, as mentioned, most vauxhalls (*most cars) will handle a lot better on a lowered stiffer suspension. Makes cornering much better, just the same way a biker may put a stearing damper on, or for us SV lot, putting a GSXR Shock on instead...
The problem is, everyone tries to be different. And when people do this, they will do anything to be individual. 80% of the time it'll lead to an absolute disaster styling wise. AS you say, 2mm off the floor, can't drive it.
For a lot of people, going to car shows is their life. It used to be mine... Our 2.0 turbo corsa ONLY came out for show in the first 3-4 years. It gets used more now as the other half doesn't mind stonechips so much.
But, also, you won't see another Corsa with a TVR paint and complete leather interior. Again, its about designing something for YOU, something YOU can be happy with.
Many people can go and spend all their money on beer, fags, designer clothes.... A lot of people modify cars. At least we have something to show for our money, and I think for a lot of people thats the drive. We can all smoke and drink away the money, only thing we gain is bad health and a big belly...
The other thing is, many people don't really have any idea about how big the whole modified car industy really is. WE're talking millions and millions of pounds per year. People spend upwards of £20,000 turning a bog standard Saxo or BMW into a street weapon. A lot of people will laugh and call them idiots, but everyone is different. Some people like stamps, some of us like speeding round a twisty B road on a warm sunny afternoon. Its all relative.
Also you ahve those that are only interest in track days
others are only interested in straight line performance.
Its different people with a different interest. Some may call it sad, but until you've really experienced the life it has to offer, no-one can really comment. They simply would not understand.
Now im 25, i've been "out of the game" a year or two, but i still miss it.
I.E, the Vauxhall VXR group had their first Meeting at Brands Hatch. Vauxhall heard about it, they all got tickets and specialist area inside Brands to all park up. 55+ Astra, Monaro and VXR220s all parked up, it looked amazing. All parking and tickets were free, plus we get 25% off Holiday Inns as they Sponser VXRacing this year.
There are lots of perks. BUT
ITs a VERY VERY VERY expensive game to be in.
I.e, above. That Corsa Vs Saxo day.
Real Stats from a C16XE (Early) Corsa GSi
1.6 16v
0-60 - 8.9
109bhp
121mph top speed.
Lucky B's Corsa at my above event.... All offically timed using Datron and Satalites etc...
2.0 16v, throttle bodies, lots of work.
0-60 - 4.89
250bhp
149mph @ 1.25 miles, and still pulling very very hard.
I've got videos clips of a Turbo corsa in Portugal doing 150+mph with ease, playing with some tuned Civic Type R's.. Pictures of Stack Dashes in corsas showing 166mph and 174mph (174mph in a Vauxhall Corsa!!!!!!!! Can you imagine the buzz).....
Mine for me is Vauxhalls, but you have your Golf CLubs, maybe 2-5 clubs for the Mk1+2, plus clubs for the Mk3, Mk4, plus your general VW clubs. Then the Bora/Passat owners club etc... FOr all the brands and models, there will be some kind of interest or club. Think how many car models, thats a lot of clubs.
Sillverstone hold the annual TRAX event. Bar the car Grand Prix, its the next largest event Silverstone holds!!!! I kid you not.
The WHOLE infield of the circuit (smallest one) is completely filled with thousands and thousands of modified cars. Plus you walk round all day, all you see is hot cars, hot totty (and LOTs of it, sometimes nake, mostly skantly clad ha ha), plsu watch the modified cars get driven on track, 0-60mph runs, fairground etc...
Hey everyone, im an easy going bloke. Theres a lot of confusion and misleading information about modified cars, but as the saying goes...
People are scared of what they don't understand.
Any questions, fire away, although i wont be back till tuesday :) I can post the vid links etc if your interested :)
northwind
13-04-06, 03:24 PM
You could equally ask why I've put a grand's worth of suspension on an SV that cost me £2500... There's not really a logiacl answer though.
Daimo, doesn't the V6 lump from the Calibras and Vectras/Cavs fit into a Corsa? Thought I saw one in PPC a while back...
amarko5
13-04-06, 03:29 PM
I understand the community thing and also understand the feeling of achievment .
but the money spent (or wasted , depends on your point of view ) I cannot get my head around.
Please keep the vid's to yourself (no offence :wink: ) a car to me is a dry box that gets me from A to B in relative comfort, and carries my three kids and good lady wife (whereas the bike cannot) well not all at once :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You could equally ask why I've put a grand's worth of suspension on an SV that cost me £2500... There's not really a logiacl answer though.
Daimo, doesn't the V6 lump from the Calibras and Vectras/Cavs fit into a Corsa? Thought I saw one in PPC a while back...
Recently a 3.2 V6 went into a Corsa. For me, its plain stupiditty. Its basically 2 engines put together. The weight distribution up front is simple shockingly awful, but it goes bloody well once tthe owner has the power down.
I don't see eye to eye with the owner of this car at all, but he's done most of the work himself. Check out the front and rear arches. This conversion is a MAJOR MAJOR job (i.e is a rally kit, serious work needed). Complete leather, and a 2.5 V6 with Direct to port Nitrous (25bhp per cyclinder jets, so thats another 150bhp on top of the 170bhp standard)....
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/3527/512x2834.jpg
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/3527/512x2789.jpg
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/3527/512x27421.jpg
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/1293/dscf0022.jpg
amarko5
13-04-06, 03:30 PM
You could equally ask why I've put a grand's worth of suspension on an SV that cost me £2500... There's not really a logiacl answer though.
Daimo, doesn't the V6 lump from the Calibras and Vectras/Cavs fit into a Corsa? Thought I saw one in PPC a while back...
A grand I can understand :wink: 10 ,20,30, I cannot :lol:
timwilky
13-04-06, 03:31 PM
OK, this is getting out of hand. As I said initially I am limited in my choice and favour larger cars. That said, I wish to thank Daimo for pointing me towards the 1.9 Cdti engine should I go for a Vauxhall.
It is a company car, a tool, so I might as well enjoy what I get to eat the motorway miles, but when it comes to tracks and twisties. Hell that is what bikes were made for.
The lease company I have to use, publish a large range of ford/vauxhall and Puegot. however, what they will lease within my price range is factored in with the residual post least value of the car. Therefore whilst many "Hot" models may have a list price within my range, they loose so much value that the 4 year cost of ownership equation throws them out.
At present I am now favoring the 1.9 Cdti Vectra SRI 150 Nav. OK Boys and their toys with the nav but as it is only an extra couple of hundred it will make sod all difference in the extorionate tax bill. yet is £120 a year cheaper than the 2.2 16v petrol
I understand the community thing and also understand the feeling of achievment .
but the money spent (or wasted , depends on your point of view ) I cannot get my head around.
Please keep the vid's to yourself (no offence :wink: ) a car to me is a dry box that gets me from A to B in relative comfort, and carries my three kids and good lady wife (whereas the bike cannot) well not all at once :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
nahh thats cool man, everyones different as I say :D
I also think (sorry, unsure of your age) that money is a lot more easily available for younger people these days. I've got friends with £30k debts due to their cars. They can afford to pay it, so they don't mind. Its their money so good luck to them.
My parents simply couldn't understand the money thing either. I think for an older generation, spending out money like this is pure idiocy, because they would never have been able to do that in their youth..
But then they never had playstations, Plasma TV's etc. Times and trends change.
I really really wouldn't change a thing about my car involvment. WEll, actually I would, i'd have jsut gone straight for a 2.0 turbo, 4 pots and my current styling rather than spend the thousands I have doing things, only to get bored, sell the bits, and change the idea (i.e liek the brake setups above, the £3000+ ICE (In Car Entertainment) system, the 6 different exhaust systems, 3 different suspension setups etc :oops: :lol: :?
At present I am now favoring the 1.9 Cdti Vectra SRI 150 Nav. OK Boys and their toys with the nav but as it is only an extra couple of hundred it will make sod all difference in the extorionate tax bill. yet is £120 a year cheaper than the 2.2 16v petrol
Sorry if i ruined your post or went well off topic fella. Its interesting to say teh least now :lol:
1.9 CDTi engine is a belter in terms of Diesel engines though. I'd say go arrange a test drive at a dealer of all 3 cars and see which you you prefer the drive of. I can't comment on the Pug's as i dislike all cars that are french (Bar the Clio Williams :lol: )
northwind
13-04-06, 03:42 PM
a car to me is a dry box that gets me from A to B in relative comfort, and carries my three kids and good lady wife (whereas the bike cannot) well not all at once :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
To me, a car is what I want before the next time it snows :) But I'm going to have to deliberately get an absolutely rancid one so I'm never tempted to modify it. Really I want a Capri :twisted: But my wallet couldn't bear the consequences.
a car to me is a dry box that gets me from A to B in relative comfort, and carries my three kids and good lady wife (whereas the bike cannot) well not all at once :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
To me, a car is what I want before the next time it snows :) But I'm going to have to deliberately get an absolutely rancid one so I'm never tempted to modify it. Really I want a Capri :twisted: But my wallet couldn't bear the consequences.
Ha ha, my old next door neighbour at my mums (funny enough, he has an SV1000, he'll be coming to Santa Pod, he's got a Blue one, bellypans etc)..
He spent a fair bit putting a new race spec engine in his Capri (Mk2). RWD, 180bhp odd...
He went to pod and got a slower time than my FWD 2.0 Corsa ha ha ha. HE wasn't happy. I laughed.
northwind
13-04-06, 03:57 PM
Ah, you don't build a Capri because you think it's fast... You build a Capri because it goes round corners sideways and makes a nice sound.
amarko5
13-04-06, 04:00 PM
Ah, you don't build a Capri because you think it's fast... You build a Capri because it goes round corners sideways and makes a nice sound.
You really should stop watching the professionals and the sweeney, on Men and motors northy :P :lol: :lol:
I think that was his plan, but he got cheesed off and sold it. He bought a nice Mk1 that needs a bit of work doing to it. Still ahd the original 1675cc (think) lump with very low miles too.
It keeps him happy lol.
Well ive got a Vectra 2.2 dti 2001 (which im selling ;)).......
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/cars_search.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=VAUXHALL&model=VECTRA&variant=&keywords=&min_pr=3000&max_pr=4000&mileage=&agerange=&postcode=gl2+4en&miles=10&max_records=50&source=1&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_f
never owned a ford but the 2.2 dti hasnt let me down yet, nice motor and roomy if you need to fit a load of kit in the back, all seats fold flat gives a pretty big flat space if needed....
My SRI was stiff but not bouncy. I sold it for a Clio 182 which is rated by Evo magazine as the best stock hot hatch ever and having driven that for a couple of years I still couldn't knock the handling of the Vectra.
It was stiff without being crashy, didn't roll and had very precise and responsive steering with safe handling characteristics (no oversteer like the Clio). When driving it felt like the vehicle was a lot smaller and lighter than it actually was. The brakes were good given its weight - I have driven Impreza P1's and Evo VI's and whilst the Vectras brakes might be more fade prone they felt like they could stop the car every bit as quick when at their best. Funnily enough I once drove my Veccy to a track day where I drove an Evo VI and found it more prone to understeer than the Vauxhall! It was good on petrol and had a very driveable engine. It was no rocketship - 135mph and 60 in 8.5 but it was a superb cruiser.
I'd recommend the Vectra as you can pick up massive bargains. Not driven the latest shape though so can't comment on them. Bit heavier so a tad slower and maybe less sharp handling but I'd have one.
If you want something that has the feel of a performance car then sorry my son but given your list of cars you are not bringing anywhere near enough money to the table! Multiply your budget by three!
Cloggsy
13-04-06, 07:14 PM
Personally, I'd have the Mondeo TDCI.
Ditto
chazzyb
13-04-06, 07:18 PM
I've got a GM group car with the 150bhp 1.9 oil burner (it's from FIAT, ffs) and I'm pleasantly surprised. Even though it's only got a 5 speed box rather than a 6 speed which other GM cars appear to have :evil:
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