lynw
12-05-06, 03:26 PM
I'm not complaining about foriegn doctors, just trying to add weight to the other side of the argument. I think Lynn wants us to beileive that migrants only do crap jobs, which isn't true. I've yet to come across a plumber that isn't British..... And from what friends in the trade tell me, generally, the standard of work from Eastern European migrants in the building/plumbing/electric trades is pretty poor.
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Steve, if youre going to comment about what Ive said and what you think I think you should believe, make sure you've read my posts properly. Please. :P
I have also said:
I know a few years back as part of the governments stupid* drive to have a workforce representative of the ethnic population, Customs had a problem recruiting from the local Hindu community. When asked why, they didnt deem a civil service job good enough for their children.
THATS whats inherently wrong. Most immigrants want to improve their lot and work bloody hard to and instil that in their children. They aspire to good careers - law, medicine, accountancy particularly. Whereas British people seem to have lost that. My fundamental problem is that again its the easy option for them - they look to blame immigrants for the problem when ultimately its the lack of their efforts that really are to blame.
Obviously thats applying a general stereotype and not applicable to all cases - some people genuinely want to work but can not find a suitable job for their skills. But a fair proportion of our benefits system are going to people who are better off, and have become accustomed to that, by not working.
Which kind of addresses the fact that while immigrants fill a lot of crap jobs our unemployed wont do, they also make a fundamental positive contribution to our society themselves or with their children following more useful careers. :wink: :P
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Steve, if youre going to comment about what Ive said and what you think I think you should believe, make sure you've read my posts properly. Please. :P
I have also said:
I know a few years back as part of the governments stupid* drive to have a workforce representative of the ethnic population, Customs had a problem recruiting from the local Hindu community. When asked why, they didnt deem a civil service job good enough for their children.
THATS whats inherently wrong. Most immigrants want to improve their lot and work bloody hard to and instil that in their children. They aspire to good careers - law, medicine, accountancy particularly. Whereas British people seem to have lost that. My fundamental problem is that again its the easy option for them - they look to blame immigrants for the problem when ultimately its the lack of their efforts that really are to blame.
Obviously thats applying a general stereotype and not applicable to all cases - some people genuinely want to work but can not find a suitable job for their skills. But a fair proportion of our benefits system are going to people who are better off, and have become accustomed to that, by not working.
Which kind of addresses the fact that while immigrants fill a lot of crap jobs our unemployed wont do, they also make a fundamental positive contribution to our society themselves or with their children following more useful careers. :wink: :P