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Yarodia
01-07-06, 08:09 PM
I was testing out my braking limits on the front and back the other day, just to get a feel for how the the brakes respond on their own but I had a problem with getting stuck in gear after braking hard on the front.

After coming to a stop in 2nd or 3rd gear, it didn't want to shift down unless I let the clutch out slightly whist pressing down on the gear lever. Is there a problem with all the fluids being flung forward under hard braking or something?
Don't know if this is something to be concerned about or not?

Oh yeah, it's on a 2001 curvy S 8)

northwind
01-07-06, 08:15 PM
I doubt it's to do with your braking... More that bikes don't like shifting gear while stationary- even being slightly out of adjustment can cause problems.

Yarodia
01-07-06, 08:26 PM
Yeah, it may need adjusting a little. Although I tried the hard braking a few times and the gear problem was consistent. Only very rarely have this problem under normal circumstances. I was woried incase the gearbox was losing lubrication or something. Wouldn't want to damage my pride and joy :)

northwind
01-07-06, 08:30 PM
Does it happen if you're still moving?

Yarodia
01-07-06, 09:27 PM
Dunno :lol:

I'll try it again tomorrow and see what happens if I let it roll a bit.

TSM
01-07-06, 10:46 PM
Also were you trying to change gear imediatly after braking before already applying some power or had you already applied power then decided to change gear.

Yarodia
02-07-06, 04:41 AM
I was effectively doing an emergency stop but only using the front brake. So after I had stopped I was trying to put it down into 1st to be ready to pull away again. I have a totally standard fork set up and there so the bike dives a bit then bounces back up once stopped

Once I had released the clutch a bit it was fine till the next time I tried the hard braking then the same thing happened again. I haven't had the problem from braking hard whilst riding without actually stopping but i'll to some more testing today and see if I can narrow it down.

wheelnut
02-07-06, 07:23 AM
Even if you are doing an emergency stop, you would pull in the clutch at the last moment though

Dicky Ticker
02-07-06, 08:04 AM
Not unusual as you are using engine braking as well as wheel braking and letting the clutch out a tad to drop down the box is normal practice.The gear seems to mesh/lock in harder while under braking. I have had this on my SV,Kawasaki and Triumph so it appears a common trait on any if not most bikes and not worth worrying about

muddycoffee
02-07-06, 03:47 PM
I have found it easier to be in the wrong gear on my SV because it pulls away from any gear due to the torque. When I have had other bikes, you just can't get that kind of thing wrong. Therefore I have found myself in a similar situation, if it wasn't for the neutral light I wouldn't know where I was sometimes when I have stopped at the lights.
And especially if I have braked hard, the gears do require a blip on the throttle and a bit of clutch to get them moving. I would suspect it is a normal feature of bike gears.

Stu
02-07-06, 07:49 PM
This happens on my K4.
Happened worse on my old Bandit.
Glad to hear it's normal



*cough* "They all do that , sir".

Yarodia
03-07-06, 04:38 AM
That's good to know.

I didn't get a lot of opportunities to play yesterday, too many cars about, but it didn't seem to happen when I let the bike roll a bit before actually stopping and used that time to change down to first. Thanks everyone :)