View Full Version : Another human rights abuse
We've had a few posted on here recently so I'm sorry for 'more of' and 'same old' but I think many will agree that this one takes the biscuit.
Are we really such a soft touch, whatever have we done in introducing this Human Rights Act nonsense? This odious individual should be put on a plane immediately.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6219608.stm
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Honestly, WTF is this country coming to????
Flamin_Squirrel
07-12-06, 09:48 PM
I'm more concerned that the authorities are so utterly incompetent that they ended up in this position in the first place.
ArtyLady
07-12-06, 09:53 PM
unbelievable :shock:
I'm more concerned that the authorities are so utterly incompetent that they ended up in this position in the first place.
Exactly, the guy was in prison for 8 years !
Did they only start the deportation process the day he should have been released ?
northwind
07-12-06, 10:55 PM
It's mad, this one... There's a lot more to it than you see on that link (as every with the BBC, just leave out anything not exciting) but still.
I'm more concerned that the authorities are so utterly incompetent that they ended up in this position in the first place.
don't blame the authorities........blame those who passed the bad law in the first place and vote 'em out of office at the next general election.
I'm more concerned that the authorities are so utterly incompetent that they ended up in this position in the first place.
don't blame the authorities........blame those who passed the bad law in the first place and vote 'em out of office at the next general election.
NO blame the bl**dy low life who going to make a packet defending him. Do some of the legal profession think of nothing other than money? (the very clever Ed excepted :D )
northwind
07-12-06, 11:07 PM
Nah, that's nonsense mate... This ruling's not happened because of any new law, it's happened because of a total failure of the immigration/deportation system. Whether or not you agree with the payout- I think it's absurd- the reason it happened was because of a total balls-up. And remember that the court who gave the payout is independant- I'm sure if the government had anything to do with it, he'd not have got a penny, since most people will blame them.
Flamin_Squirrel
08-12-06, 07:42 AM
Nah, that's nonsense mate... This ruling's not happened because of any new law, it's happened because of a total failure of the immigration/deportation system. Whether or not you agree with the payout- I think it's absurd- the reason it happened was because of a total balls-up. And remember that the court who gave the payout is independant- I'm sure if the government had anything to do with it, he'd not have got a penny, since most people will blame them.
Yep that seems to be whats happened.
As the government continues on its quest to destroy the british legal system it'll get worse too. The CPS is a total mess so prosecutions are getting bungled, so to compensate the government is trying to make it easier to prosecute people. This all results in a situation where not only are more guilty people getting away with their crimes, but more innocent people are being convicted at the same time.
This of course means that some of those pesky people who've been a victim of outrageous miss carriages of justice will feel that they're entitled to compensation for being wrongfully imprisoned.
The government having gracefully put these people up in one of her majesties finest establishments will take bed and board from your compensation package though, so you get to pay for being wrongfully imprisoned too.
Oh, and if you get locked up for less than a year then you'll not get a penny at all. You'll have lost your job, family, friends, self respect, but it's only a few months in prison, it can't be that bad can it?
Whatever the facts - and as Northy says, I'm sure the BBC haven't reported them all - the fact remains that this pervert is here without lawful authority and has committed one of the worst crimes imaginable - the rape of a child. Compensation my ****. What about the child? Does she get anything for the trauma he put her through? And as Vfr says, all on legal aid. Can you imagine this anywhere else in the world?
i can't imagine it anywhere else. Like you say, am sure there is more to this.... but who cares, he shouldn't have been here, he committed a disgusting crime, and he is taking the pi**.
I have been trying to find out how to immigrate to new zealand, and they won't let me in! I am a decent, hard working, intelligent women, no criminal record and a lot to offer (oh er)... and then we have people like that here, swanning about, using every system we have to sponge off us ... makes me incredibly agree grrrrrrrh :evil:
PsychoCannon
08-12-06, 09:43 AM
I am a decent, hard working, intelligent women, no criminal record and a lot to offer (oh er)...
There's youre problem, the multiple personalities.
Seriously though this is a sick joke but all to "normal" in the way things go today.
:smt057 :smt093 :smt070 :D ....don't understand, multiple personalities ? :wink:
That just makes me sick, first of all, only 8 years in prison for rape someone at knifepoint? secondly 8 years that we have to pay for him to stay in prison to watch TV and playing pool? then it comes with human rights lawyer... errrhh. human right my a**, once someone has been found guilty of crime and put to prison, they should no longer be classed as human (should be even lower then animal since we have animal rights lawer as well), whilst in prison, they should be made to work and make money to cover their cost of stay in prison (who says uk lacks of cheap labour).
tinpants
08-12-06, 01:01 PM
That just makes me sick, first of all, only 8 years in prison for rape someone at knifepoint? secondly 8 years that we have to pay for him to stay in prison to watch TV and playing pool? then it comes with human rights lawyer... errrhh. human right my a**, once someone has been found guilty of crime and put to prison, they should no longer be classed as human (should be even lower then animal since we have animal rights lawer as well), whilst in prison, they should be made to work and make money to cover their cost of stay in prison (who says uk lacks of cheap labour).
:winner: =D> =D> =D>
Not reported by the BBC.
Also during his "illegal imprisonment" he was free to go back to Somalia of his own accord at any time.
Flamin_Squirrel
08-12-06, 06:59 PM
That just makes me sick, first of all, only 8 years in prison for rape someone at knifepoint? secondly 8 years that we have to pay for him to stay in prison to watch TV and playing pool? then it comes with human rights lawyer... errrhh. human right my a**, once someone has been found guilty of crime and put to prison, they should no longer be classed as human (should be even lower then animal since we have animal rights lawer as well), whilst in prison, they should be made to work and make money to cover their cost of stay in prison (who says uk lacks of cheap labour).
:winner: =D> =D> =D>
Nah sorry, that post isn't the winner.
Ideally he'd be brutally executed for his crimes... actually in an ideal world it would happen in the first place.
Anyway, treating criminals like a sack of excrement is a bad idea if you want them to emerge from prison more dangerous than before they went in.
Sid Squid
08-12-06, 07:12 PM
It goes on, I've just read in our local paper that the Old Bill are being criticised by a coroner for 'Failing In Their Duty Of Care'. A drug dealer is openly dealing on the streets, (anyone who knows Camden will know it's near impossible to walk over the bridge at Chalk Farm without being offered drugs), anyway they attempt to arrest him and he swallows a bag of drugs, chokes, and pops his clogs.
Apparently the Coroner says that the cops weren't directly responsible for his death, I'm fuming, how can they be at all responsible? He swallowed the bag, there's been no claim that the cops forced him to eat the bloody thing.
Also the coroner recommended that the police needed a 'Health & Safety refresher course'
**** off! I'm getting really annoyed now.
Warning... RANT!!!...
This is a complete insult to every woman/child who has been a victom of Rape!! :evil:
How the hell can they let this happen?!?!?!?!?!?
And people wonder why some women don't get their rapist convicted when this happens!!
that poor girl, my heart goes out to her.
The authorities who are running this case need their bloody heads testing and the court needs shooting just for entertaining this pathetic idea in the first place!
Can you imagine the problems this will cause if they pay this man!?!
God it doesn't bare thinking about!
Yes he definately needs deporting..... in a F***ing body bag!!! F***ing low life scum bag!!
Biker Biggles
08-12-06, 08:22 PM
Ed----Couldn't the rape victim now sue him for £50,000 damages to at least ensure he does not get to keep the money?It's not justice but it would help to redress the balance.
northwind
09-12-06, 12:09 AM
Yeah, that's a fair point actually... He probably had no meaningful resources before, now he has £50000. Hmm.
Sid Squid, I suppose the question is should they have been able to prevent it- sort of like they blame the police if a drunk chokes on his own dinner in the cells. It's not their fault that it happens, but maybe it was preventable. Still, I'm pretty sure that practically nothing useful has ever been achieved by giving people a health and safety course. Perhaps a few cretins have survived where traditionally a piece of heavy plant would have turned them into pebbledash, but I'm not sure that's all that useful, we have no shortage of cretins.
northwind
09-12-06, 12:11 AM
Wee derail... I've always been amazed by the dealers at Camden... It's not so much that they're there selling, it's more that it doesn't strike me as a good idea to buy drugs in the middle of the high street at lunchtime with CCTV and witnesses everywhere. There's a time and a place for these things.
Flamin_Squirrel
09-12-06, 12:53 AM
It goes on, I've just read in our local paper that the Old Bill are being criticised by a coroner for 'Failing In Their Duty Of Care'. A drug dealer is openly dealing on the streets, (anyone who knows Camden will know it's near impossible to walk over the bridge at Chalk Farm without being offered drugs), anyway they attempt to arrest him and he swallows a bag of drugs, chokes, and pops his clogs.
Apparently the Coroner says that the cops weren't directly responsible for his death, I'm fuming, how can they be at all responsible? He swallowed the bag, there's been no claim that the cops forced him to eat the bloody thing.
Also the coroner recommended that the police needed a 'Health & Safety refresher course'
f*ck off! I'm getting really annoyed now.
Gah that is annoying.
Although, the case originally posted by Ed isn't quite the same, as the one above was a failure in judgement of an individual who was too stupid to exercise some common sense. A failure of the system that results in someone being wrongfully imprisoned is about as bad a **** up as the government can make though, and the £50k payout reflects this. Regardless of how vile an individual the person in question is though, as isn't up to anyone to judge.
I'm not outraged that someone like this took advantage of the system, in fact I don't even think the system is to blame either. It's the utter cretins that are supposed to be administering the system and allowed this to happen are the ones who need shooting.
mysteryjimbo
09-12-06, 08:15 AM
Chop it off and send him back.
Preferable on a raft with no supplies.
Sid Squid
09-12-06, 09:46 AM
Sid Squid, I suppose the question is should they have been able to prevent it- sort of like they blame the police if a drunk chokes on his own dinner in the cells. It's not their fault that it happens, but maybe it was preventable. Still, I'm pretty sure that practically nothing useful has ever been achieved by giving people a health and safety course. Perhaps a few cretins have survived where traditionally a piece of heavy plant would have turned them into pebbledash, but I'm not sure that's all that useful, we have no shortage of cretins.
I take your point, however the report doesn't read like this would be reasonable, so in this particular circumstance, no, I don't believe it was preventable, other than by the idiot not swallowing the bag that is.
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