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instigator
14-12-06, 06:18 PM
Koso RX1N GP Style Meter

Thought I would document this for future reference (haven't seen many posts about people fitting them.

Kit arrived today, £105 on ebay from a german seller. Slightly second hand box but everything was untouched. First impressions are that the unit is small. Dinky. Smaller than I expected but not necessarily a bad thing. Manual is in english and details all of the mounting techniques, the parts in the box and the fitting of parts fairly well if not a bit brief. About 6 pages of fitting info and about 24 regarding how to work the functions on the clocks themselves...:roll:. I have not decided yet whether I am going to mount it on the front brake disc or rear sprocket. Naturaly would appreciate any thoughts people have. ;)

This 1st post will be updated everytime I make 'progress'.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/greggreggreg/Koso1.jpg

Close-up Image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/greggreggreg/Koso2.jpg)

Okay onto the installation:

So far, so so...

Problems I've encountered are as follows:

Mounting

I always presumed I would have to make up a bracket to get the clocks in the position I wanted. However, the brackets they supply you with fit onto the two risers that clamp onto the bars. Not very well though...the bolts they supply are no way long enough to go through the mounting bracket, washer and then riser. Really quite pish infact, I'm going to have to get some longer bolts from B&Q just to be happy with this "temporary" mounting.

Speedo pick-up

They supply you with 6 small, very powerful magnets. These go into the allen key heads on the brake disc bolts. Fitting is flush and since I have 5 bolts on my sv's discs, I put in 5 magnets. Mounting the pick-up (the item CLOSEST to the bottom in the picture) isn't perfect. They supply you with two brackets, 1 x M6 and 1 X M8. However, the bracket isn't actually long enough! With the sensor fixed in the bracket, the magnets do not directly pass underneath it, which is rather disappointing. Can't have everything I guess - I might manage to get another made up somehow.

Wiring

Relatively easy to do but a bit messy - I went and butchered the front of my loom to get most of it done and still have a few wires kicking about that I have no idea what to do with! Don't think I'll bother fitting the temperature sensors for the coolant - there are 2 supplied, for reasons I don't know but hey ho, nice to have! Naturally, the fuel gauge won't work although there is a slight possibility of it flashing up when I need fuel since I hooked it up to the 1st reserve line. To make the job a tidy one, I will be buying new 2.8mm terminals and put in a new plug to make it relatively neat and tidy and of course, secure.

With the help of a chap on BCF, I managed to get the primary parts wired in so I could switch it on. Turn the ignition on and the blue lights shine out bright - Nice and tarty. The tacho wirrs round to 13k and then back down. The neutral and oil light shine up as expected and are quite easily visible - one of my fears was that they wouldn't be very bright.

Pictures are below. Afraid I won't be able to test it until the 28th maybe, once I have the correct oil seals for my engine. Then I will be able to see if it can detect anything from the magnets.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/greggreggreg/Koso11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/greggreggreg/Koso22.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/greggreggreg/Koso33.jpg

Ter
15-12-06, 10:27 AM
You got the sellers name?

Was going to buy the same one here in the UK but seller wanted £179!!!

I'm putting one of these on my streetfighter!!

Seen it in the flesh and they are very small, thought it'd be larger, Don't think you'll be able to use all the functionality - but I could be wrong...

northwind
15-12-06, 10:44 AM
I've seen those around, very interested... But I've never been able to get a pic of the back of the clocks, or a real feel for the quality of 'em. So keep it coming!

instigator
15-12-06, 11:10 AM
You got the sellers name?

Was going to buy the same one here in the UK but seller wanted £179!!!

I'm putting one of these on my streetfighter!!

Seen it in the flesh and they are very small, thought it'd be larger, Don't think you'll be able to use all the functionality - but I could be wrong...

Hi

I do but it was a one-off sale, he bought them brand new and was going to fit them to his quad but for some reason didn't. So put them up on ebay as "used". They're new really. I did notice beforehand that someone from the Uk was selling them for £140. Bit cheaper than the price you got but still expensive. I think imported from Germany they cost about £130 including shipping.

I'll take all sorts of pics Northy. :)

Stu
15-12-06, 12:54 PM
Don't think you'll be able to use all the functionality - but I could be wrong...
Does it have a gear indicator?
Otherwise, what functionality? (lap times?)

instigator
15-12-06, 01:00 PM
Don't think you'll be able to use all the functionality - but I could be wrong...
Does it have a gear indicator?
Otherwise, what functionality? (lap times?)

I suspect the fuel gauge will be one of them. :) Not sure what else won't work, perhaps some of the temperature sensors but that's not the reason why I bought them anyway. Got plenty of daft little things to keep me amused like the 0-60 tests, 1/4 mile timing. Hardly going to be accurate but should be fun none the less. :lol:

Ter
15-12-06, 03:36 PM
Don't think you'll be able to use all the functionality - but I could be wrong...
Does it have a gear indicator?
Otherwise, what functionality? (lap times?)

When I checked it out in the shop there were all sorts of other functions that SVs dont have, one was the fuel guage (rather than warning light) the other were some of the temperature sensors - separate oil and water IIRC.

Looks like a really nice bit of kit, I'm still going to use one on my bike (beats a bicycle speedo!!)

As for functionality - if it can tell me when I low on fuel or if the oil level is low then thats all I wanna know :D

Viney
15-12-06, 03:48 PM
You need to rub that table down and re-varnish it mate :lol:

cmit37
20-12-06, 02:43 PM
What bike are you fitting it to?

instigator
20-12-06, 02:44 PM
What bike are you fitting it to?

99 SV, nekkid.

If there is a problem fitting them to the 99 SV, I don't want to know about it. :lol: :wink:

cmit37
20-12-06, 02:55 PM
I was foolishly hoping that you devised some great plans for fitting it to a faired SV.

instigator
20-12-06, 03:07 PM
Ha ha...No. Can't imagine it would be THAT hard though to mount it. But you'd have problems making it look nice since the faired sv has a 'dashboard'. :lol:

northwind
20-12-06, 03:15 PM
Gaffer tape. Or I could make you a rubbish fibreglass thing that'd probably crack after 500 miles :) But SV clocks work well, if you want extra bits you could add a Veypor and keep the standard instrumentation.

instigator
20-12-06, 06:49 PM
Updated with more pictures from this today's adventures.

northwind
20-12-06, 07:14 PM
GET IT LOWER

That is all :) Looks rather good, that.

instigator
20-12-06, 07:24 PM
I know. :(

Don't know how to yet, don't really have facilities to weld stuff to make a decent bracket. I'll manage 'something'.

tygaboy
21-12-06, 02:28 AM
OK, how about this. I'll make some cool carbon fiber mounts for you and you help me get one of these here in the US? :P

instigator
21-12-06, 12:12 PM
OK, how about this. I'll make some cool carbon fiber mounts for you and you help me get one of these here in the US? :P

Deal! :lol:

http://www.kosonorthamerica.com/

USA DISTRIBUTORS

Hot Seat performance / Speedwerx
(651) 982-0600
www.speedwerx.com

Kimpex USA
(800) 777-7073
www.kpx-kimpex.com

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(715) 294-4575
www.bikemanperformance.com

Hi-Performance engineering
(218) 681-2390
www.hiperf.com


My address is............

;)

tygaboy
21-12-06, 04:41 PM
Instigator,
I'm serious, you know. Let me know your address and I'll make you a cool mounting set up.
I'm thinking a nice little angled carbon piece that lowers the dash assembly. Once I get mine and can be sure of the fitment, I'll make you the mount - we can talk final design so you'll get just what you want.
PM me and let's wok out the details?
Thanks and have a merry & happy.

Chris

northwind
21-12-06, 06:02 PM
If you prefer to DIY it, go to a big B&Q and check out the alumnium strips and sheets they have there... Loads of things to suit all projects :)

Ter
08-05-07, 12:39 PM
Any progress mate?

Got me a set og Koso's so they're going on this weekend!!

;)