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TheStudent
14-07-07, 08:48 AM
Basically as the title says, my exhaust has it stamped on the end and i want it removed. I was thinking...
Polished out at a metal workshop.
Having a new end piece put on with no stamp.But i don't know where to go to get this sort of stuff done, little bit of noise in the daytime never hurt anyone, and it makes people around more aware i am there, pointless stamp to begin with!
sumpyboy
14-07-07, 08:57 AM
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Plod wil usually give you a rectifier or a ticking off for a race can. However they take a dim view of people putting legal stickers on clearly race cans, and it could cost you points or more grief in the the long run.
I've been running with Race cans around london for 3 years and although I've been pulled/checked over a couple of times, they've let it go.
of course if I have a letterbox numberplate and acted like a tosser, then they might taken a dimmer view.
SoulKiss
14-07-07, 10:39 AM
Basically as the title says, my exhaust has it stamped on the end and i want it removed. I was thinking...
Polished out at a metal workshop.
Having a new end piece put on with no stamp.But i don't know where to go to get this sort of stuff done, little bit of noise in the daytime never hurt anyone, and it makes people around more aware i am there, pointless stamp to begin with!
So because you think its pointless you are willing to commit fraud.......
If you want to ride with a race can, then you have to run with the risk of being pulled.
I run a "legal" can - although I understand that the fact the baffle is held in with an allen bolt (as it came) makes it illegal anyway.
I am just waiting for it to cool down after a run today to take the baffle back out.
I choose to run a loud can, I choose to take the risk of being pulled.
End of
Take some responsibility for your actions and dont try and hide behind an angle grinder/dremel.
TheStudent
14-07-07, 11:09 AM
Police are not my concern, it's my insurance, as far as i know you can't declare a race can to road insurance?
the_lone_wolf
14-07-07, 12:50 PM
Not for road use exhaust - £400
Fake BS Mark plate - £5.99
Perverting the course of justice - Up to 25 years
But seriously, just buy a legal can FFS, they're dirt cheap compared to the price of the bike, and if you're even more skint you can buy 2nd hand. If you want to run a loud pipe (or while we're on it, a non-legal visor or plate) then you will always run the risk of being pulled for it. i ride with a black visor because it keeps the sun out of my eyes, and if we're going to be honest, looks awesome. when i get my new scorpion the baffle will be coming out because having ridden a bike with a baffleless can it gets people's attention and gets you noticed. if they want to pull me for it then so be it, it won't stop me doing so...
TheStudent
14-07-07, 01:10 PM
Not for road use exhaust - £400
Fake BS Mark plate - £5.99
Perverting the course of justice - Up to 25 years
...and for everything else there's mastercard!
John 675
14-07-07, 02:37 PM
auto Sol - and a shed load of elbow grease, my viper race can has now had a baffle fitted and has been rivited in . . . legal can, because the baffle is BS stamped, its just the balls of getting the not for road use off of it.
TheStudent
15-07-07, 09:31 AM
auto Sol - and a shed load of elbow grease, my viper race can has now had a baffle fitted and has been rivited in . . . legal can, because the baffle is BS stamped, its just the balls of getting the not for road use off of it.
Back to square one....how can this be done?
John 675
15-07-07, 04:13 PM
Back to square one....how can this be done?
basicly polish it off, because auto sol is a corrosvie it will give it just takes for ever but it can be done, i purchased the viper baffle kit from demon tweaks for £10.00 minus postage,
EDIT : mine was done for me so im not sure how long it will take lol,
Sid Squid
15-07-07, 09:24 PM
So because you think its pointless you are willing to commit fraud.......
Where the **** did this sanctimonious cobblers come from Dave?
Take some responsibility for your actions and dont try and hide behind an angle grinder/dremel.
Ease up! Hardly the crime of the century is it?
But seriously, just buy a legal can FFS, ... my new scorpion the baffle will be coming out
& won't be legal anymore so you'll need to buy another can again :confused:
Wet & Dry sandpaper 1200 grit or so will start off the job a lot quicker than autosol alone.
Police are not my concern, it's my insurance, as far as i know you can't declare a race can to road insurance?
Wrong, just cost me more in ins.
i polished mine out............. & if anyone asks, i dunno? it was like that when i got it , sir
SoulKiss
16-07-07, 06:24 AM
i polished mine out............. & if anyone asks, i dunno? it was like that when i got it , sir
"Ignorance" is no defence in the eye of the law.....
the_lone_wolf
16-07-07, 07:09 AM
& won't be legal anymore so you'll need to buy another can again :confused:
not quite, the point i was making was that if you want to ride with a loud exhaust you should accept the consequences of your actions, however lying to your insurance provider is something i couldn't condone
John 675
16-07-07, 07:13 AM
not quite, the point i was making was that if you want to ride with a loud exhaust you should accept the consequences of your actions, however lying to your insurance provider is something i couldn't condone
True i agree with lone wolf on that however if i travel with my Can open the baffle is under my seat, except when its mot time then it gets pop rivited back in to place.
SoulKiss
16-07-07, 10:11 AM
Where the **** did this sanctimonious cobblers come from Dave?
Ease up! Hardly the crime of the century is it?
Sanctimonius cobbles came from the fact that I dont care (well within reason) what anyone else does with their bike.
Whay I do mind is when they come looking for advice on hiding stuff that they are doing - if you want to ride with a race can do so, I dont care, as pointed out by at least Rictus, if not yourself, the fact that my new can came with a 4mm allen bolt holding the baffle in invalidates the BS stamp thats on it.
If anything I should be getting out the autosol/dremel etc and removing the lying street legal markings from mine.
II really dont care about things like cans, small plates and the like - hey I have both.
I was more trying to point out the ramifications of doing things like trying to hide the facts about things.
£30 rectification notice to remove the race can is, well a pain, but fair enough if you are caught out (only fair in so far you broke the law, how fair the actual law is is another matter)
The possible ramifications of it going to court over the defacing of the can, invalidation of insurance etc is bigger than that.
Didnt mean to be sanctimonius, just doing my usual Devils Advocate, Worst Case scenario thing.
Now on the matter of 4mm allen bolts holing in baffles, where did I put my 4mm allen key........................
Now on the matter of 4mm allen bolts holing in baffles, where did I put my 4mm allen key........................
My tip on that is not to wait until the exhaust cools. If it's held in by silicon etc, removal when warm makes it easier. Certainly did with mine. I heard stories of people pulling so hard they fell over when it came out. Mine came out with two fingers on the plyers & nothing more.
Wasn't aware a bolt invalidated the BS stamp, interesting.
SoulKiss
16-07-07, 11:33 AM
My tip on that is not to wait until the exhaust cools. If it's held in by silicon etc, removal when warm makes it easier. Certainly did with mine. I heard stories of people pulling so hard they fell over when it came out. Mine came out with two fingers on the plyers & nothing more.
Wasn't aware a bolt invalidated the BS stamp, interesting.
When I first fitted the can the allen bot wasnt that tight - so loose that I thought it dangerous so I removed it for "safety" reasons until I had an appropriate allen key.
I refitted it the other day, now its looking a little loose again and so I will store it under my seat until I can get some threadlock to make sure it doesnt fall out again :)
Or to put it another way - removed the baffle when fitting it, thought it a bit loud (as Rictus said I would) tried fitting the baffle, and while still nice, prefered it without so will remove when I get home :P
I have lost my baffel out of my Scorpion can on the A325 through Farnham, so this is a valid reason in my book...
I just riding along and though to myself, bikes rather loud all of a suden... and when I got to work, it just wasn't there anymore.
So I imagine it bounced off someones car on the Farnham bypass as I was filtering.
My Remus has a fixed baffle but is as loud as I want.
I have to say, I wonder why people bother thinking of excuses for loud exhausts.
Apparently it is the baffle that is BS marked (or rather, for the pedants, the BS marking applies only when the baffle is inserted) on the vast majority of exhuasts.
No baffle, the exhaust doesn't adhere to British Standard, and therefore is illegal for road use.
Quite what the British Standard specifies exactly, I'm not sure, but I'd imagine most of that is noise.
I've been stopped countless times, and the exhaust looks the part, so no-one has said anything about it. The day they do, I'll plead no knowledge, and the outcome will be taken on the chin.
If I get a rectification notice, fair play, I insert my baffle, get it certified, and on my way I go. That's the risk I run, and I risk it daily quite happily.
From speaking to a few coppers over the years (about lots of things, mostly not bikes admitedly), if you come with the attitude of "didn't know, fair enough, I do now" rather than "it fell out, haven't got around to sorting it out"... they will go easier on you one way rather than the other. Baffles don't just fall out (unless never secured properly).
Carry on. :D
TheStudent
16-07-07, 02:29 PM
What sort of place and how much roughly would it cost to get a baffle fitted, i think my exhaust is an ART race can.
Once fitted, can an MOT station stamp your exhaust?
What sort of place and how much roughly would it cost to get a baffle fitted, i think my exhaust is an ART race can.
Once fitted, can an MOT station stamp your exhaust?
You can get the baffles on ebay... Just measure your outlet pipe, easy job as they are just held in by a bolt.
And no you can't get it done at a MOT station, you have to do that work yourself.
baffles are for wimps
its true
What sort of place and how much roughly would it cost to get a baffle fitted, i think my exhaust is an ART race can.
Once fitted, can an MOT station stamp your exhaust?
BanditMania will sell you a "DB Killer" which fits most exhausts, and is stamped already. Just needs holding in place somehow.
baffles are for wimps
its true
Baffles are a personal choice. For me, it's no. For some, they won't ride without them.
I wouldn't dream of riding my bike on the public highway without the baffle in my exhaust. I think it's an outrageous suggestion :razz: ;)
baffles are for wimps
its true
Looks like I'm a wimp... please don't pick on me.
John 675
17-07-07, 10:45 AM
Looks like I'm a wimp... please don't pick on me.
AHAHAHAhahahahahha . . . you wimp! lol, :D
but saying that unless you wait for noisy trackdays to come round once every million years you are going to need one at some point im sure
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