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if it went wrong, then that is sad. but to cover it up and put on such a public front is just scary.
if it went wrong, then that is sad. but to cover it up and put on such a public front is just scary.
They will get lynched.
SoulKiss
08-09-07, 04:55 PM
if it went wrong, then that is sad. but to cover it up and put on such a public front is just scary.
As said, if they came forwards and said "our child is dead - she overdosed on medicine we gave her for no reason than to have an easier life" then their lives would be over.
Their families would possibly disown them, the would lose their jobs, and so their home, their other kids would be taken from them.
So, saying she had been taken then throwing up a massive smokescreen would seem to be the only out that I can see.
As said, if they came forwards and said "our child is dead - she overdosed on medicine we gave her for no reason than to have an easier life" then their lives would be over.
Their families would possibly disown them, the would lose their jobs, and so their home, their other kids would be taken from them.
So, saying she had been taken then throwing up a massive smokescreen would seem to be the only out that I can see.
but to have their wits about them enough to think about throwing up smokescreen says something about their character. most people would have broken down on returning to apartment to find their child dead. I think they would have got thru it all by telling truth. I would imagine its not the first time they have drugged kids to get sleep, therefore family probably already know they do this. As long as they didnt prescribe drugs they would not lose job, kids probably would not be removed from home but be placed on at risk register. but ill just wait and see what outcome is. dont want to join in witch hunt if they are innocent.
The wife's not bad looking is she? Only being paying attention to the news recently as normally I'd switch over.
RhythmJunkie
08-09-07, 06:50 PM
dont want to join in witch hunt if they are innocent
Innocent of what kitkat??
Both parents are to blame whatever's the cause for the disappearance because they left very young children unsupervised.
50 feet or 50 kilometers does it matter? Unsupervised is unsupervised!
How would they feel if they found their baby sitter was sat in a restaurant across the street having a meal instead of sitting in their home looking after their children like they were being paid to do? They would go ballistic I know I would!
We never used to leave our young children unsupervised not even in our own home!
being guilty of neglect is a bit different to being guilty of murder though. the first is just stupidity the other is just bad
RhythmJunkie
09-09-07, 12:33 AM
Yep ok murder is technically worse I guess. ;)
I couldn't even forgive them if she died accidentally cos there was no one there to help her. It would still be their fault.
I have a daughter and it gives me the creeps to think about leaving her alone like that at 4 years old....I just couldn't do it!
I just think the only innocents in all this are the kids.
Have you noticed how whenever someone gets into trouble abroad the legal system or the police in that country are always rubbished? Like the system in the UK must be foolproof? :rolleyes:
MeridiaNx
09-09-07, 04:25 PM
Funnily enough, the thing that winds me up about this case most of all is 'our' reaction to it, and by that I mean the IMO misguided/inappropriate outpouring of public grief.
I would like to sum up my sentiments/respond to many of the posts already in the thread:
- It is an awful thing to have happened, whoever did it, whoever reponsible. In that sense I am not heartless. Hopefully she will be found alive.
- I agree with Ed, the McCann's are using the media to keep the spotlight on the case and in that way to increase chances that a positive outcome is achieved, even if they are helplessly aware they are being used by the media at one and the same time.
- Chances are that the parents are not themselves directly responsible for her death. It is not impossible though, it has been known before. The public is convinced otherwise by the public grief of the parents: "How could they have done it" etc. etc. It would be a good way of deflecting attention if that were the case.
For me, it is the social reaction I dislike, though maybe I risk being branded a misanthropist. On Facebook for example there is a group with something like 350,000 people in it (last time I looked). This is just the biggest one I found, there is another with 150,000, many with the tens of thousands etc. etc. All on the same topic. All people do is join and post trite little statements on the 'wall': "I cry every night for little Maddie and hope she is found safely. Pray to God" yadda yadda. Personally, I find this grossly disturbing. The largest one even has the colossal arrogance to instruct people to print off posters if they are going anywhere, and I mean *anywhere* abroad, and to distribute them to the locals. I find this bandwagon mentality entirely disproportionate to the event itself.
Parallels may be drawn to the death of Diana in some ways. Millions grieving for someone they didn't personally know. I noticed this particularly when I performed an outdoor Shakespeare at Althorp Park, Earl Spencer's place. They have a museum/memorial there which is a major attraction, with her school uniform, reports, letters to her parents in glass cases, all her dresses/landmine outfits etc. A piles of dead flowers that were laid outside the gates when she died.
I know it is a slightly different kettle of fish, but it taps into a similar social phenomenen I feel. Yes, the media is partly to blame for selling sensationalist stories mentioning Maddie's disappearance as a 'tragedy' (it is not, it is yet another misuse of words to heighten the drama, "lost their fight for life" and so on), but the appetite for them is ours.
northwind
09-09-07, 05:19 PM
What this thread needs is some Boris Johnson
"...the fact that such a tribute was demanded in the first place emphasised the mawkish sentimentality of a society that has become hooked on grief and likes to wallow in a sense of vicarious victimhood... It is a form of behaviour that was kick-started in this country after the death of an even more ambiguous figure, the late Diana, Princess of Wales. As a manifestation of our apparently depleted intelligence and sense of rationality, it bodes extremely badly for this country."
markmoto
09-09-07, 05:21 PM
Ive said it from day one there is something very sinister about her parents! i cant place my finger on it but they had something to do with it imo.
Ive said it from day one there is something very sinister about her parents! i cant place my finger on it but they had something to do with it imo.
Which, no doubt, is why the Portuguese authorities have allowed them to leave the country.
Warthog
09-09-07, 07:19 PM
What this thread needs is some Boris Johnson
"...the fact that such a tribute was demanded in the first place emphasised the mawkish sentimentality of a society that has become hooked on grief and likes to wallow in a sense of vicarious victimhood... It is a form of behaviour that was kick-started in this country after the death of an even more ambiguous figure, the late Diana, Princess of Wales. As a manifestation of our apparently depleted intelligence and sense of rationality, it bodes extremely badly for this country."
You gotta love Boris, he speaks his mind. I can't help but feel that the mass mourning for that kid that got shot in Liverpool recently is another repetition of the Ken Bigley incident that will probably have Boris biting his lip (or not).
RhythmJunkie
09-09-07, 07:19 PM
Chances are that the parents are not themselves directly responsible for her death. It is not impossible though, it has been known before.
There was a couple not too many years ago who came on the news begging for the abductor of their child to come forward and give them back....it turned out they had killed the child themselves so yes it does happen and some parents can have nerves of steel in front of the cameras and put on a really good show.
Peter Sutcliffe had a family and a job as a lorry driver but killed 13 and left another 7 women for dead, yet everyone who knew him thought butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. He was a quiet, gentle, respectable man and a serial killer....which just goes to show you can't trust anyone!! He also got away with it for over 5 years and no one suspected anything, not even the police!
I may as well jump in with my speculation and say that sifting through all the "alleged" evidence, it seems to me more like some sort of set up. Either the parents were in on it like a child sale or they themselves have been set up by someone with a grudge.
It doesn't feel like a straight forward abduction or murder.
freakin it
09-09-07, 08:38 PM
yes yes all very sad. child abduction may not be natural but its a fact of life in the world that we live in. i do think its a nasty thing to happen however i dont think it warrants months of endless media coverage.
im tired of it being rammed down my throat every news bulletin - especially when there are more important things going on in the world - such as rugby world cup!
21QUEST
09-09-07, 11:38 PM
I don't know if they did it or no but......
...the tragedy is that the little girl was unfortunate enough to be born to a couple of highly educated monkeys.
Some people might say "hindsight is a wonderful thing..." but that would be wrong(IMO).
Why? Ask yourself this. "How many people do you know or reckon would leave the dogs unattended as described ie doors unlocked etc.
Yes, I'm sick of the whole circus.
Ben
ThEGr33k
09-09-07, 11:42 PM
Feel sorry for Madeleine whatever happened... saying that though with parents like that if she has been taken to be adopted can the new parents be any worse? :|
stuartyboy
10-09-07, 12:57 AM
I'm with Ed.
Remember that girl in Australia who's boyfriend was murdered and everyone blamed her for years????? Well she was innocent!!!
I read through the whole thread and it seems to me that some of you would rather they were guilty just to satisfy some sick "I told you so" desire. Some of the comments have been disgusting and you have no facts.
As for the money they're making - it's being audited and all proceeds are going to a foundation for victims. The McCann's are not benefitting from a single penny. This was confirmed on BBC news tonight - to end speculation like the ****e on this forum. All costs they've incurred so far have been funded privately by themselves.
If the McCanns are innocent then will all you lot slagging them off come back to apologise and donate to their foundation????
As for them out on the town? I know parents who've done exactly what the McCann's did and it's probably still common in holiday complexes all over the world. Now everyone on here's baying for their blood because they did what millions of parents have been doing for years. They made a mistake - simple as that and it'll probably haunt them for the rest of their days.
One thing all the publicity will do is that it's might make parents think twice about leaving their kids unattended in similar situations. If it prevents another abduction the well done!!!
Kids have been snatched from right under parents noses - literally feet away. Lets hope the publicity's done some good.
This thread just goes to show that human nature is fueled by ignorance and a desire to think the worst in people.
Hear Hear!!=D>
I'm with the voice of 'innocent until proven guilty' after all, that is one of the cornerstones of the justice system - perhaps one of the most important...oh and it's nice to keep to the facts rather than ludicrous embellishments.
I'm with Ed.
Remember that girl in Australia who's boyfriend was murdered and everyone blamed her for years????? Well she was innocent!!!
I read through the whole thread and it seems to me that some of you would rather they were guilty just to satisfy some sick "I told you so" desire. Some of the comments have been disgusting and you have no facts.
As for the money they're making - it's being audited and all proceeds are going to a foundation for victims. The McCann's are not benefitting from a single penny. This was confirmed on BBC news tonight - to end speculation like the ****e on this forum. All costs they've incurred so far have been funded privately by themselves.
If the McCanns are innocent then will all you lot slagging them off come back to apologise and donate to their foundation????
As for them out on the town? I know parents who've done exactly what the McCann's did and it's probably still common in holiday complexes all over the world. Now everyone on here's baying for their blood because they did what millions of parents have been doing for years. They made a mistake - simple as that and it'll probably haunt them for the rest of their days.
One thing all the publicity will do is that it's might make parents think twice about leaving their kids unattended in similar situations. If it prevents another abduction the well done!!!
Kids have been snatched from right under parents noses - literally feet away. Lets hope the publicity's done some good.
This thread just goes to show that human nature is fueled by ignorance and a desire to think the worst in people.
Last night I also read this thread for the first time, spent at least half an hour typing my thoughts, and then felt that I hadnt put it right so deleted. You my man have said everything I was thinking.
What this thread needs is some Boris Johnson
"...the fact that such a tribute was demanded in the first place emphasised the mawkish sentimentality of a society that has become hooked on grief and likes to wallow in a sense of vicarious victimhood... It is a form of behaviour that was kick-started in this country after the death of an even more ambiguous figure, the late Diana, Princess of Wales. As a manifestation of our apparently depleted intelligence and sense of rationality, it bodes extremely badly for this country."
I completely agree with Boris on this one!
Just the sceptic in me , I don’t actually think hey done it for what its worth. But it seems a bit strange that they have spent soooo long in Portugal and now since the police have decided to make them formal suspects they have decided to come home.
Could this be so it is harder for them to be arrested as then the Portuguese police would have to get them extradited first??
Just the sceptic in me , I don’t actually think hey done it for what its worth. But it seems a bit strange that they have spent soooo long in Portugal and now since the police have decided to make them formal suspects they have decided to come home.
Could this be so it is harder for them to be arrested as then the Portuguese police would have to get them extradited first??
may e the portuguese authorities were unhappy by the McCanns & the medias conduct in all this & just wanted them to go home. Arresting them seemed to have that effect.
fizzwheel
10-09-07, 10:15 AM
I didnt think they'd been actually arrested, just naming them as a formal suspect means the police can ask more questions in fact naming them as suspects actually gives them more protection under portugese law namely the right to silence should they choose to exercise it.
Interesting (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/15130/Dad-I-ll-use-1m-Maddie-fund-to-clear-our-names)that the 'Find Madeleine' fund is actually a private business, and the money can be used to 'provide support, including financial assistance', to Madeleine's family.
Currently there's a million quid in the kitty. If they are guilty and get away with it, or if they're innocent, there's a nice prize waiting for them.
Cynical me thinks that's very convenient.
Pedrosa
10-09-07, 02:13 PM
With the manner in which the investigation has been carried out thus far and the sway of public opinion moving markedly against the McCann's in the past few days, who would not retreat back to England, whether they ultimately be guilty of any crime or not?
gettin2dizzy
10-09-07, 02:22 PM
where were the McCanns at 12.30 on November 22nd 1963!....
Biker Biggles
10-09-07, 02:31 PM
And I bet they know where Lord Lucan is------;)
Pedrosa
10-09-07, 02:43 PM
Well before this troubling and tragic case, they were last seen travelling 2 up on a motorbike in some tunnel in Paris...,.....
Pedrosa
10-09-07, 04:54 PM
So come on then people, out with it. Based on all the informatiobn that you have read or heard recently in connection with this case,(obviously difficult to ascertain concrete fact from tabloid hysteria) what has actually gone on here?
Interesting little note to start you off, the McCann's and the couple they were spending more time with than their 3 small tots, consumed 8 bottles of wine between them from lunch time to the time of reporting Madeline's disapearance.....I open it up for your considerd theories........:confused:
Biker Biggles
10-09-07, 05:50 PM
It was the maid,in the kitchen with the breadknife.:cat:
the mccanns gave george best his first beer
husky03
10-09-07, 09:23 PM
This is a horrible thing to happen to anyone and as a parent i cannot put into words how i would feel if i was in a similar position-the difference is i will never leave my kids alone-plain and simple-i'm off to thailand with the family in november,wasn't really wanting to go but since the kids are going with the mrs and her mum i ended up deciding to go-i'm not leaving anything to chance,but thats what the McCanns done and there little girl has payed the ultimate price and they have to live with that for the rest of there lives.I personally don't believe they had anything to do with her disapearance but there is something strange about mr and mrs McCann-i can't put my finger on it.Hope whatever happened to the wee one was painless and she never suffered.
to say " i dont care " is not true, but, i am totaly fed up with hearing about it,
stuartyboy
11-09-07, 10:56 AM
to say " i dont care " is not true, but, i am totaly fed up with hearing about it,
Well...if you're fed up with it you just to say so and leave it at that. You DON'T have to jump on the bandwagon and make up stories like the majority did on here. There were some disgusting things said on here - none of which was based on any facts.
Well...if you're fed up with it you just to say so and leave it at that. You DON'T have to jump on the bandwagon and make up stories like the majority did on here. There were some disgusting things said on here - none of which was based on any facts.
i did not make anything up:confused:
Pedrosa
11-09-07, 11:47 AM
I keep thinking about the story as depicted in the movie "A cry in the dark.":confused:
I keep thinking about the story as depicted in the movie "A cry in the dark.":confused:
what is that then? not seen the film.
Pedrosa
11-09-07, 02:37 PM
This news article might be of assistance...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3866905.stm
Filipe M.
11-09-07, 02:38 PM
Are you insinuating we have dingos in Portugal? ;)
Pedrosa
11-09-07, 02:41 PM
Filipe, not at all but we have wolves here in Spain?
I use the analogy of the dingo case as that also saw public opinion swing back and forward with serious implications for the mother of the child.
Supervox
11-09-07, 03:57 PM
. . . As for them out on the town? I know parents who've done exactly what the McCann's did and it's probably still common in holiday complexes all over the world. . .
Really ?
Because I haven't spoken to a single person who's said that they've done it / would do it - we certainly wouldn't leave our children alone whilst we had dinner elsewhere !!
I hope the McCanns are innocent of any involvement in the disappearance, as there can be no greater betrayal than that of a parent harming a child.
as there can be no greater betrayal than that of a parent harming a child.
Totally, whole-heartedly agree with that last bit there Supervox. Unfortunately it happens far to often, and it's only the child abduction cases that seem to get headlines (Paedophile terror headlines etc.) IIRC most cases of children being hurt/abused/killed are the parents/family rather than strangers. That's the real tragedy
NOTE: I'm not saying anything about the Madeleine case, I have no idea who was involved, and am making no assumptions either way. This is just a general point.
shot me if you like. But I will admit that I have nipped to the neighbours whilst the kids were asleep.... does that mean I deserve some tragedy on my kids also? I think some people are being a little holyier then tho to be honest
(apologise for the spellings, my brain hursts!)
shot me if you like. But I will admit that I have nipped to the neighbours whilst the kids were asleep.... does that mean I deserve some tragedy on my kids also? I think some people are being a little holyier then tho to be honest
(apologise for the spellings, my brain hursts!)
ok :p :smt068
But I must admit to nipping to the corner shop in the morning to get a loaf of bread - 200m away - locking the kids inside.
No further opinion on the case other than bewilderment and annoyance of the people making money from it. Was watching some news review and they mentioned the how the use of a certain song was granted to help with the publicity. What do you know an hour later whilst they were running the live updates there is a break and what is the first advert - only the singer pushing sales for his CD playing that very song. :money: WTF!!!
northwind
11-09-07, 07:21 PM
I guarantee my mum and dad left us at home from time to time, or in the "care" of my older brother even when he was pretty young. Of course, they say they wouldn't now, because these days everyone's terrified of paedophiles and kids aren't allowed to breathe. Watch them 24/7 or they will inevitably be kidnapped or killed, and it will be ALL YOUR FAULT. Keep them in the cellar til they're 21, it's the only way to be sure.
Not saying it's necessarily fine to leave the kids at home and go out on the razz, mind, but there's a balance here.
SoulKiss
11-09-07, 09:08 PM
I guarantee my mum and dad left us at home from time to time, or in the "care" of my older brother even when he was pretty young. Of course, they say they wouldn't now, because these days everyone's terrified of paedophiles and kids aren't allowed to breathe. Watch them 24/7 or they will inevitably be kidnapped or killed, and it will be ALL YOUR FAULT. Keep them in the cellar til they're 21, it's the only way to be sure.
Not saying it's necessarily fine to leave the kids at home and go out on the razz, mind, but there's a balance here.
Yeah its ridiculous that kids dont get to be kids anymore because of the fear of their parents, I dont really think the world is any more dangerous now than when I was a kid with respect to paedophiles etc.
One interesting thing that this post made me think of was that when I was 8 or 9 my mum would send me to the shops to get potatoes or the like, and off to school by myself (coming home by myself too - well there were about 4 of us (all kids) in a group) but wouldnt leave me in the house alone - which is the most dangerous?
there was an article in a mag that there is no greater risk of your child being taken and abused by a stranger than there was 40 years ago. most abuse still takes place within the family. The risk is kids have no street sense now and therefore do get into scrapes when they do leave the home. instead of learning that climbing a tree and falling hurts when you are 8 its now happening at 16. the older you get the less you bounce. i often leave my 14 year old looking after my 10 year old, when I nip out at 6am to do my cleaning job. both walk to school, eldest walks 3 miles to school, youngest is about 3 minutes. youngest lets himself in from school and stays in til i return from work about an hour later. I have no one to leave them with. I have no option but to either give up job or do this. He enjoys having the house to himself as he does his homework and gets to watch what he wants on tv. door remains locked and no one is allowed in. he has not to answer the phone. but i would never leave him in alone to go to the pub. I would imagine most parents have left their kids home alone at least once or twice, but doing it out of necessity and because you want a meal in peace when there is a baby sitting service is silly. rant over
Pedrosa
12-09-07, 09:37 AM
I would never consider myself a "Holier than though" character but our son was never left alone in the house without supervision ever. For me it is a fundamental thing that you just do not do. Each has their own view of correct parenting but I believe leaving children alone and specific to this case 3 tots below the age of 4 is so wrong. This is all about making the commitment and accepting that your lifestyle changes when you have the massive responsibility of a young life in your care.
Just in passing when watching a news bulletin yesteray, they were showing brief video clips of Madeleine with a drink in her hand. She was holding one of those long straight glass tumblers that are used to serve cola or shorts in bars and pubs.
For me this was a display of questionable parenting for a child of that age to be given a glass containing a drink. Tots are clumsy and things get dropped or knocked over. Whatever happended to plastic tumblers?
Biker Biggles
12-09-07, 09:49 AM
Yes its a moot point about leaving kids that young alone even if you are only a few minutes away.
I was able to make my own way to and from school from about age seven,involving a three mile bus ride and a ten minute walk.This would usually but not always be with others.
Similarly my lad used to go to and from school alone from much the same age,and I think it is essential that they are given responsibility for themselves from as early an age as practicable.
BB - we're not talking about a 7 yo, we're talking about a 3 yo and two 2 yo's. I've set out my thoughts on the McCanns above, there is no getting away from the fact that there was an inadequate supervision system for these young children while their parents were out. And Pedroso - entirely agree - glass and toddlers do not mix.
Biker Biggles
12-09-07, 10:24 AM
Agreed.Im not in any way defending leaving kids that young alone like that.
My point was a more general one about giving kids responsibility at a younger age than is fashionable now.
grh1904
12-09-07, 11:55 AM
For me, it is the social reaction I dislike, though maybe I risk being branded a misanthropist. On Facebook for example there is a group with something like 350,000 people in it (last time I looked). This is just the biggest one I found, there is another with 150,000, many with the tens of thousands etc. etc. All on the same topic. All people do is join and post trite little statements on the 'wall': "I cry every night for little Maddie and hope she is found safely. Pray to God" yadda yadda. Personally, I find this grossly disturbing. The largest one even has the colossal arrogance to instruct people to print off posters if they are going anywhere, and I mean *anywhere* abroad, and to distribute them to the locals. I find this bandwagon mentality entirely disproportionate to the event itself.
Just been re-reading this thread to catch up, not been on-line for a few days.
This post caught my eye - and remimded me about something I saw on the news when Maddy had been missing about 2 weeks.
A mother & daughter from the midlands area were going out to Portugal to *HELP* look for her. They planned to go around the resort where she was missing from wearing T shirts with her face on it & hand out leaflets.
WTF ????? - :confused::confused:
What, the hundreds if not thousands of people who had looked for her already didn't see her happily walking down the street 200yds from her apartment ????
The news interviewer put that point to them, these ladies didn't have an answer and just looked at each other before replying with comments like, we can't sleep, we pray every day, it's so upseting blah blah blah blah, ending up with we have to feel as though we're doing something.
I also find this quite disturbing, grown adults who have no specialist skills or knowledge to offer, would happily spend (can also be read as waste) money on doing something they know is totally and utterly futile.
The public out cry , grief showing reminds me of whrn Diana died,
people were going mad and griving over someone they never knew nor net, how can you get so upset over someone you dont have a close bond to or know??
Filipe M.
12-09-07, 12:57 PM
I'm awfully sorry, I was really trying to stay out of this for every reason in the world plus a few others, but this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6991181.stm) is beginning to be just a bit too much.
"The McCanns apparently fear the police will plant evidence"
WTF?! :mad:
Biker Biggles
12-09-07, 01:04 PM
Planting of evidence is not unheard of in this country so perhaps they assume it may happen there as well?When police come under huge pressure to produce a result this can happen.
Filipe M.
12-09-07, 01:10 PM
I wonder who put that huge pressure on the back of the police in the first place...
Right, I'm going back to my hole in the ground.
Pedrosa
12-09-07, 01:27 PM
I think the suggestion by the McCann's that they should instruct that their own private forensic tests be carried out on the car is highly insulting to the Portugese Police tbh. This case has massive scrutiny and for them to try such a trick would I am sure eventually be found out.
If the McCann's want to organise any test at all, it should be for them both to undergo a lie detector test. This should be carried out with Police,Lawyers,Priest, selected members of the media and local villagers from Portugal all present.
If they are as clean as they wish us to believe,then they should have no hesitation in acceding to such an open and transparent test. I would also include questioning under hypnosis if they really do want the world to once again back them in the search for their abducted child.
Dave The Rave
12-09-07, 01:45 PM
This really stinks. Is it only me or does it look like another OJ Simpson case? They will now question the police?
I agree with Pedrosa - this is too high profile a case for police to mess up. Just to announce they are suspects must have been closelly scrutined by relevant lawyers, police officers etc.
Yes, less do the lie detector test!
I just hope for their sake they have nothing to do with this.
ASM-Forever
12-09-07, 02:32 PM
Lie detector tests just make me think of 'Meet the Parents'.
"Have you ever watched porn?"....cue needle going haywire :)
Thats all i have to add....sick of the whole sorry episode.
I'm awfully sorry, I was really trying to stay out of this for every reason in the world plus a few others, but this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6991181.stm) is beginning to be just a bit too much.
WTF?! :mad:
... and how exactly do you get hold of blood from the missing girl to plant? If it was hair or something along these lines then it is plausable it could have been trace from luggage or something. BTW - watching CSI makes me an expert commentator :p.
saw on sky news on line today that they have found further traces of maddy. this time its clumps of hair that have come from a body as opposed to transferred from a toy.
how did they miss this first time? the parents are clever people if they had done away with the child why not take the car and burn it out. dont they watch csi, you can find blood even once car has been valeted.
then there was the relative on some morning programme talking about how their friends had seen maddy being carried down the street by a man of unknown origin. she had to be a jock of course, silly cow
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