There is such thing as bad law, or badly enforced law. This is such a case, and I suspect all Scubini is trying to 'get out of' is having his money stolen by greedy ********s with no real regard for safety as they claim.

The police wouldn't have given him a ticket, so an money grabbing untrained civvy shouldnt either.

No far from it i hate them as much as you obviously do.

I wasnt aware i had said you did anything dangerous only that you did something illegal.

Correct b but however bad a law is it is still the law and the police have a right to enforce it.

And how do you know a copper wouldnt have given him a ticket? Just because they occasionally let you off it doesnt mean they will everytime. especially when he gets his identity checked and it allready shows 6 points for speeding

Well said that man!

If you disagree with their existence why not join the fight?

I never said i disagree with there existance did I?

In the right place they have a perfectly justifiable role to play. It's just that they chose to use them in unjustifiable places.

Yes, but they often make decisions on what's the most appropriate way to do this. In this case it might well have just been a telling off, if they'd even bothered to pull him over that is.

As I said above, even if it was the police who chose to pull him over (which isnt garunteed) they may just tell him off, and not even check his details.

So if there was a law to say round up and kill Jewish people you would support their right to enforce that law?
(OK not the same ball park but you see my point?)

So you do disagree with their existence in 'unjustifiable places'?

I never said i have to agree with the laws only that the police have a right to enforce them

Yes but define an unjustifiable place?

Its your statement you define it.

More than that, other law requires them to enforce it. They have no choice about doing it, but they do have some discretion as to how they do it in some circumstances.

However, the scamera vans are not generally operated by the police, and this will have been the case here. Let's leave the coppers (and talk of irrelevant other laws) out of this particular debate and keep it to scameras, eh? :wink:


That could be a big job.... easier to define what is justifiable.

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