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Old 27-08-06, 05:16 PM   #1
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Default Scamera Van question

Was out in Wales today having fun (safely) and came round a corner slightly over the 60 limit to be faced with 1 of those horrible camera vans with its camera pointing in my direction.

Having no plate on the front does anyone know if I'm safe or could they of taken my number when I drove past to be used against me?

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Old 27-08-06, 05:19 PM   #2
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Most cases a forward facing camera will not get a bike, however sometimes the camera operator will note down the number plate of an offending vehicle.

Best place to look for advice is http://www.pepipoo.com/

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Old 27-08-06, 05:30 PM   #3
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Mte of mine had the same happen to him. They sent him a letter through the post, based on the fact they they knew his bike. They 'apparantly' noted down his plate, but have no evidence of this. Ask for a photo if you get sent anything.
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Old 27-08-06, 05:45 PM   #4
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As above, ask for proof of an offence.

Some (perhaps) local knowledge may help too. Living in N. Wales there's a few types of van I see quite often. If it was the standard scamera van, with bright yellow markings on the back and two places for a camera on the back - opening hatches, you should be safe. Unless like has been said, the operator took your details.

If it was a more plain white van, and had the blue 'crime prevention' sign, it's the ANPR van. Whilst they don't always record speed, they do look for excessive speed & will photograph front & back. You should be lucky with that if you were just above 60mph in a 60 zone.

Being in N. Wales, you learn quickly what the types of vehicles are & what they do. Usually the hardway
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Old 27-08-06, 06:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice guys! I will definitely not be taking it lying down if I get an NIP.

I got done by 1 of these things when they 1st came out, 90 in a 60, empty straight road, 6 points £200 fine so I think they've had enough of my money. Wasn't going that fast this time tho 70-80 approx.

Davido do you know if your mate get off the hook?

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Old 27-08-06, 08:14 PM   #6
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They got me twice with a forward facing cammera the opperator is sat on a swivel chair and can spin around and take your number down!!!! The *******S!!!!!!
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Old 27-08-06, 08:31 PM   #7
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They got me twice with a forward facing cammera the opperator is sat on a swivel chair and can spin around and take your number down!!!! The b*stards!!!!!!
NOT GOOD!
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Old 28-08-06, 12:19 AM   #8
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He's still deciding whether or not to try and fool them.

He rang them up and complained and they asked him to send them a pic of his bike and his gear. So he's contemplating wearing different gear and removing some panels, so they don't catch him riding as the picture shows.

Hopefully he'll be safe. He goes to uni in a week and will be giving up his bike for three years.

Good luck with the camera situation. Hope it all works out.
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Old 28-08-06, 07:03 AM   #9
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...contemplating wearing different gear and removing some panels, so they don't catch him riding as the picture shows.
I assume you haven't seen the news story about the North Wales biker who was given a NIP, and re-sprayed his bike a different colour in the hope of getting out of it. They still gave him points regardless of the colour.

I think I saw the news story on here, but can't remember where.
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Old 28-08-06, 07:12 AM   #10
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...contemplating wearing different gear and removing some panels, so they don't catch him riding as the picture shows.
I assume you haven't seen the news story about the North Wales biker who was given a NIP, and re-sprayed his bike a different colour in the hope of getting out of it. They still gave him points regardless of the colour.

I think I saw the news story on here, but can't remember where.
Re-spraying the bike to avoid a FPN for speeding equates to Perverting the Course of Justice, which is a criminal offence of far more serious penalties - i.e you are very likely to go to jail. IIRC, most of the idiots who've tried this (other examples included making up false relatives in foreign countries who were "driving" at the time, removing speed limit signs and replacing them with higher ones)

Links: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/5145368.stm, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5041914.stm


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