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zadar 22-10-07 07:41 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
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Originally Posted by Robw#70 (Post 1320369)
This is the Matris kit, it uses a proper rebound and compression shim stack with 2.5/5wt oil so no heat problems:cool:

They retail at £300 so £100 more than emulators/springs but half the price of a cheap(ish) cartridge kit.

provalve damping kit is matris?
I saw picture of matris that looks different than this valve.
you can buy F3 catridge pretty cheap.you can also adapt many different catridges.AK20 would be most expensive one but you get what you pay for.
there is plenty of options,emulator is still best option for average Joe.

natcar 22-10-07 08:04 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Thanks for all the advice although a fair bit has gone over my head and I havent started looking at the racetech instructions. I have found some .85 springs and will swap the oil for 15w. Will let you know how I get on.

Robw#70 22-10-07 08:09 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zadar (Post 1320391)
provalve damping kit is matris?
I saw picture of matris that looks different than this valve.
you can buy F3 catridge pretty cheap.you can also adapt many different catridges.AK20 would be most expensive one but you get what you pay for.
there is plenty of options,emulator is still best option for average Joe.

No sorry Pro-valve and Matris are Different companies.

The 'Shuttle' is the bit in your picture at the bottom of the damper rod (the piece holding the seal etc in the bottom of fork stanchion), on some replacement fork tubes available here this piece needs swapping.

I only asked about the pic as I thought the 'shuttle' was out of an injected leg wheras the second pic were all carby rods.

There's been some pretty frightening cartridge conversions done here, but luckily the worst culprit for messing them up are no longer trading, good ideas just badly executed:smt093

Robw#70 22-10-07 08:12 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by natcar (Post 1320416)
Thanks for all the advice although a fair bit has gone over my head and I havent started looking at the racetech instructions. I have found some .85 springs and will swap the oil for 15w. Will let you know how I get on.

Sorry for the hijack, bet you wished you never asked:pale:

Any problems just ask, i'll pm my #

zadar 22-10-07 08:33 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robw#70 (Post 1320421)
The 'Shuttle' is the bit in your picture at the bottom of the damper rod (the piece holding the seal etc in the bottom of fork stanchion), on some replacement fork tubes available here this piece needs swapping.

I only asked about the pic as I thought the 'shuttle' was out of an injected leg wheras the second pic were all carby rods.

shuttle goes out for catridge install.
pic does show carby rods,few I have around.however,like I said they dont interchange.you can also tell by color of seal(green).
btw.there is guy selling some pieces to install gsxr catridge but at expense of losing 20mm or so of travel.according to him that is fine :)

natcar 30-10-07 05:59 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Fitted now, but not been out yet, feels a bit more positive at the front. I have about 30mm of sag with me onboard after cutting 10mm of the spacers- is this right?

Also, should I try to eliminate the knocking on the head bearings by nipping it up a bit or will this just wear them out quicker?

Luckypants 30-10-07 07:12 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by natcar (Post 1326988)
Fitted now, but not been out yet, feels a bit more positive at the front. I have about 30mm of sag with me onboard after cutting 10mm of the spacers- is this right?

30MM might be too little, depends on how you ride really. I had 35mm which allowed more travel to cope with pot holes on the bumpy roads round here. You can dial in more / less sag with the pre-load adjusters on your pointy.

natcar 30-10-07 08:04 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Ok the adjusters are mid point so I should be able to back them off to 35mm. We have plenty of potholes around here too.

johnnyrod 31-10-07 12:36 PM

Re: Racetech emulators
 
Leave it at 30mm and try it first. If your head bearings are knocking then they're scrap already, you can tighten them up but all that will happen is you get the awful (and dangerous) self-centring feel. Are you sure it's not the fork internals clunking? They do that a lot, it doesn't mean anything.

PS when you go for your first ride on the emulators you'll probably think "what's different?" Take it on something really challenging like chossy B-roads and you'll find out, it'll glide over what used to tie it in knots.


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