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Stu 17-02-10 04:59 PM

How do you get the last piston out?
 
of your calipers :smt013

fastdruid 17-02-10 05:00 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Pump them against something so they are a mm from popping, remove the something, remove the pistons.

This may be tricky if you have already removed one. ;)

Druid

DarrenSV650S 17-02-10 05:01 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Grips covered in thick cloth

or

http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productin...?catref=VS1806

Stu 17-02-10 05:07 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Answer: With more brute force :roll:
via Standing on the caliper and 2 hands on the pliers.
Was using 3 dust seals round the piston to protect it as I'm replacing them anyway - only damaged the last couple of mm of the piston - should be reet :smt102

Stu 17-02-10 05:13 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastdruid (Post 2185419)
Pump them against something so they are a mm from popping, remove the something, remove the pistons.

This may be tricky if you have already removed one. ;)

Druid

Yeah I thought I did that - obviously not pumped them out enough. especially the first ones to pump out as I thought they would be easy
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 2185421)
Grips covered in thick cloth

that's what I was doing - the green dishwashing scruber clothes without sponge was quite goodlooks good - but for the number of times I would use it :rolleyes: and by they time you realise you want it - it's too late.
But thanks anyway :D

2hys 17-02-10 05:15 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
When youve done yours can you come here and show me what you did! Mine need doing but scared to touch them cos there either done right or there dangerous!!

Luckypants 17-02-10 05:17 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
I think it was xXBadgerXx posted a good tip the other day. Put a few cable ties tight around the protruding piston, then you can grip them with mole grips / stilsons without damaging them. Then twist and ease out...

Stu 17-02-10 06:31 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 2185437)
I think it was xXBadgerXx posted a good tip the other day. Put a few cable ties tight around the protruding piston, then you can grip them with mole grips / stilsons without damaging them. Then twist and ease out...

Yeah I saw that & tried it. the ziptie came off too easily for me but it gave me the idea of using the seals.

ricky 17-02-10 07:40 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2hys (Post 2185436)
When youve done yours can you come here and show me what you did! Mine need doing but scared to touch them cos there either done right or there dangerous!!

your not far from me, if you dont get help pop up im in rochester

punyXpress 17-02-10 07:44 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Pop the other piston/s back in & lock them there.
Reattach line & use lever to pop sticky one out.

carternd 17-02-10 11:12 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Don't use mole grips if you can avoid it. Pump both pistons out with the fluid. One usually comes first, use a G-clamp to hold it while you pump the other out, but protect your caliper with a piece of scrap wood, otherwise you will muller the paint. Then when they're both wobbly, just work em out with your hand. G-clamp is good for getting them back in as well, just protect the caliper! I didn't.

ophic 17-02-10 11:50 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carternd (Post 2185890)
G-clamp is good for getting them back in as well, just protect the caliper! I didn't.

And keep an eye on the fluid in the reservoir, if the lines are still attached. I made this mistake on my car and got brake fluid everywhere :(

Stu 17-02-10 11:51 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carternd (Post 2185890)
Don't use mole grips if you can avoid it. Pump both pistons out with the fluid. One usually comes first, use a G-clamp to hold it while you pump the other out, but protect your caliper with a piece of scrap wood, otherwise you will muller the paint. Then when they're both wobbly, just work em out with your hand. G-clamp is good for getting them back in as well, just protect the caliper! I didn't.

Yeah, that's what i did. It's just harder in practice when I've got 6 pistons instead of 2, and it always ends with one that's difficult to get out long after I've disconnected the hydraulics. :roll:

Spanner Man 18-02-10 07:40 AM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Good morning all.


Providing there's enough piston protruding from the caliper, put a jubilee clip of suitable size around it, & use grips. Warm the caliper body first with a blowlamp, or hot air gun. Then try to rotate the piston before attempting to withdraw it. Make sure the jubilee clip doesn't slip though, or you may score the pistons.


Cheers.

carternd 18-02-10 08:57 AM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2185922)
And keep an eye on the fluid in the reservoir, if the lines are still attached. I made this mistake on my car and got brake fluid everywhere :(

Might as well change the fluid while you're at it. Or is this old fluid from the calipers? I made a mess all over as well, best to cover the discs and paintwork as best you can, saves a lot of cleaning.

yorkie_chris 18-02-10 09:25 AM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2185923)
Yeah, that's what i did. It's just harder in practice when I've got 6 pistons instead of 2, and it always ends with one that's difficult to get out long after I've disconnected the hydraulics. :roll:

Leave the caliper on the disc, take pads out, pump pistons. Disc stops 5 of them falling out while the 6th remains stuck.

That usually gets them out far enough that jubilee clip + grips can get them out easily.

These are from ZXR same 6 pots as 'busa right?

Stu 18-02-10 12:34 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2186051)
Leave the caliper on the disc, take pads out, pump pistons. Disc stops 5 of them falling out while the 6th remains stuck.

That usually gets them out far enough that jubilee clip + grips can get them out easily.

These are from ZXR same 6 pots as 'busa right?

Ah, that's an idea, I guess I'd just be worried about damaging the discs especially because I'd be only servicing the calipers when they are dragging so not retracting.

yup, same

ipap 18-02-10 04:15 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Airline!

I'm in Biggin Hill if you happen to be passing, I can pop them out for you in seconds.

Stu 18-02-10 04:49 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ipap (Post 2186412)
Airline!

I'm in Biggin Hill if you happen to be passing, I can pop them out for you in seconds.

so how does this work? I guess you have to put the other 5 pistons back in & secure them?

Thanks for the offer but I did post that I got it out 8 mins after putting the thread up.

yorkie_chris 18-02-10 06:09 PM

Re: How do you getthe last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ipap (Post 2186412)
Airline!

Airline is ok, but if you get one that is actually seized then they will laugh at air. My compressor goes up to about 160psi. Maybe you have higher one. Also you still have to put other 5 pistons back in.

Red Herring 18-02-10 10:06 PM

Re: How do you get the last piston out?
 
Like ipap I always use my airline, and I've never had one I couldn't get out...perhaps I'm not letting them seize for long enough...?

The only danger with using air is it will go with one hell of a bang if you do it uncontrolled. I put several old pads in the caliper (with it on the workbench disconnected from the bike) and then blow the pistons out a bit, remove one pad and pop them out a bit further...and so on making sure all the pistons come out evenly. Easy and much less mess than trying to do it on the bike.

yorkie_chris 18-02-10 11:01 PM

Re: How do you get the last piston out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2186935)
Like ipap I always use my airline, and I've never had one I couldn't get out...perhaps I'm not letting them seize for long enough...?

Probably.
When they are secondhand calipers and the dust seals are rolling out of their recesses then air does not shift them. Ones that get serviced at decent intervals are fine.

Stu 19-02-10 07:56 AM

Re: How do you get the last piston out?
 
once dust seals are rolling out, you can pull them all the way out before removing he piston.

I know this :roll:


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