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ian505050 12-03-12 05:47 PM

My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...57035656_n.jpg

Now replaced with Michelin Road 2, just home it lasts a little longer than this one did.

ps. i do check my tread depth, this tyre had over 1mm at the start of the day.

Red Herring 12-03-12 05:51 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
If you were riding hard enough to take out 1mm+ of tread in a single day from the middle of the tyre you were definitely riding to hard for a tyre in that condition to start with....luck was on your side. Buy a lottery ticket quick!

ian505050 12-03-12 06:03 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
My bike requires me to go up and down all five gears to get too and from 70mph. On each gear shift it seems to slip and skip so i recon this is whats worn it out too fast. Also coming into corners i found dropping it in a gear that was a little low locked the rear end up which probably contributed to the fast deterioration.

If worst came to worst at least it would have made a cool youtube clip as i was wearing a go pro

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...87791346_n.jpg

Red Herring 12-03-12 06:09 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian505050 (Post 2676826)
If worst came to worst at least it would have made a cool youtube clip as i was wearing a go pro

Or made the crash investigation and coroners report a whole lot easier....

ian505050 12-03-12 06:17 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2676830)
Or made the crash investigation and coroners report a whole lot easier....

Always doing my best to save the country money. Time wasted is money wasted.

Red Herring 12-03-12 06:18 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
You certainly got full value out of the tyre.....

ian505050 12-03-12 06:23 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2676836)
You certainly got full value out of the tyre.....

Not true, garage said there was at least 5 miles left when i pulled up.

New tyre photo just to prove i am not a complete idiot.

Michelin have a deal with most garages this month that they pay for fitting and on some tyres even give you £25 cash back if you send them a copy of the receipt

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...2/IMAG1502.jpg

sv4me 12-03-12 06:31 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
You can't see the belts all the way round on the old one, what are you made of money? :smt102

ian505050 12-03-12 06:35 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sv4me (Post 2676844)
You can't see the belts all the way round on the old one, what are you made of money? :smt102

need to be paying £206 for a set of the above. I recon my fuel cost to tyre ratio cost is gonna be quite close this year.

What would the law have to say about the tyre if i got pulled?

Runako 12-03-12 06:42 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Its not proper worn out until the sparks are flying off the belt ;)

Girth 12-03-12 06:57 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Baffles me why people are so negligent with tyres. You had 1mm left which is dangerous and obviously going end up illegal but went for a ride. No wonder the tyre ended up like it was.

Specialone 12-03-12 07:05 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
One thing I will say, on eds artnw weekend last April, I was convinced I had at least 1000 miles left ( approx 3-4 mm left), but after 300 miles it suddenly wore the last bit out really fast, it squared off really fast too.

I had to change them when I got home.

andrewsmith 12-03-12 07:23 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Good going!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Girth (Post 2676857)
Baffles me why people are so negligent with tyres. You had 1mm left which is dangerous and obviously going end up illegal but went for a ride. No wonder the tyre ended up like it was.

I'll admit I've done it when it was close (sv4me will know when this was) and sort of knew after the first verge surf and backing it in through the boarders

Still green laned quite well- twice

ian505050 12-03-12 07:39 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Girth (Post 2676857)
Baffles me why people are so negligent with tyres. You had 1mm left which is dangerous and obviously going end up illegal but went for a ride. No wonder the tyre ended up like it was.

not an internet argument type of person but, bike was in garage, sun was out, testosterone levels were high and the day ended up being longer than expected.

to be fair it went from 1mm positive to 1mm negative tread in about 150 miles and i presume when you get to 0mm tread there must be at least 1mm thickness of rubber before the metal cord, so 3mm in total disappeared in 150 miles.

I was not expecting a wear ratio of 1mm every 50 miles.

Was fun, still alive and i have 8mm of tread again so i presume i have at least 400 miles till sparks fly again.

robh539 12-03-12 09:04 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
To be fair mate you still should of ridden that straight to the tyre shop if open or not gone out. After your pre ride checks, Girth post is quite a honest and shared view.
For your safety and others. where luck not to of been stopped whiles out.

The Idle Biker 12-03-12 09:59 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
What is this about? I'm on the train, reception poo. Am I right this is a I have dodgy tyre thread. Really? Wow. Change it.

tom-k6 12-03-12 10:03 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
tyres do wear down really fast once they get low on tread. i had a tyre down to that level once....not had the pleasure of wearing a tyre out since early 2010, i keep getting nasty punctures that cant be fixed =[

AndyBrad 13-03-12 08:51 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
dont understand. i change my tyres at about 2mm and certainally dont take them to the 1mm limit.

tyres are the cheapest thing on your bike/car after brakes imo?

Reeder 13-03-12 10:01 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
I thought the one I'm about to change was bad!

Owenski 13-03-12 01:02 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeder (Post 2677111)
I thought the one I'm about to change was bad!

+1
I've just gone onto the low wear indicator on the rear, the mm above that doesnt seem to have lasted very long at all but Im now constantly aware of my rear tyres condition I'd hang my head in shame if I were to have an incident based on my poor planning regarding a replacement.

New rubber already sat waiting on the shelf just need a weekend now to be able to get them sorted, the remaining 120miles I've got to ride this week I'll be very concious of the risk and would definetly not be taking it out for a hoon.

Dicky Ticker 13-03-12 01:12 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Ah-well Some think it is clever,others know it is stupid

yorkie_chris 13-03-12 11:41 PM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robh539 (Post 2676936)
To be fair mate you still should of ridden that straight to the tyre shop

Not a direct dig but how f***ing holier than thou is this place getting?

You're either all saints, complete faggots or telling yourselves porkies.


You're all telling me honestly that 1mm of remaining tread on an otherwise healthy tyre would cause you to ride straight to a tyre shop?

In normal circumstance the legal 1.49mm he obviously began the day with would be right for a few hundred miles.

AJC 14-03-12 03:28 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
I have had a tyre looking like that on my bike before too!...

I was inexperienced in how long tyres actually last and randomly decided to go visit mates in Cardiff (I live on Glasgow). Tyre looked okay before I left, looked okay in Cardiff but after a 400 mile motorway journey home they weren't too pretty! It happens I guess...

Tyres were Pirelli diablos, not exactly touring tyres :)

Red Herring 14-03-12 06:56 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2677541)
Not a direct dig but how f***ing holier than thou is this place getting?

You're either all saints, complete faggots or telling yourselves porkies.


You're all telling me honestly that 1mm of remaining tread on an otherwise healthy tyre would cause you to ride straight to a tyre shop?

In normal circumstance the legal 1.49mm he obviously began the day with would be right for a few hundred miles.

I don't think it's a case of preaching YC, but it is a reality check and a bit of a potential heads up for others, especially as there are a few relatively new riders around this forum. The Op says his tyre was OK in that it had 1mm of tread left when he went out, that's 1mm of tread, not rubber, which is right on the legal limit. He then says he enjoyed some spirited riding with his mates and that was how it ended up, and nobody is suggesting that a tyre in that condition is anything other than dangerous. If the facts are to be believed then it is in the very least a warning as to how fast the last bit of tyre might wear out.

Personally, unless the OP's definition of spirited riding includes several hundred miles flat out down a motorway, I doubt very much he had 1mm or tread left when he went out. If he had ridden hard enough to have worn away that much rubber riding around on the roads in a day then the rest of the tyre would be showing signs of having done some work, which it doesn't.

I'm sure just about everybody at some point has pushed their luck a bit with their tyres, I know I have in the past. As someone else has said you know when you're trying to stretch out a tyre to the next payday, but then you don't go out and hoon around on it do you?

Dustin 14-03-12 07:06 AM

Look on the bright side; while the centre may have been toast, the sides look brand new!

I'm a glass half-full kinda guy

Specialone 14-03-12 07:14 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2677541)
Not a direct dig but how f***ing holier than thou is this place getting?

You're either all saints, complete faggots or telling yourselves porkies.


You're all telling me honestly that 1mm of remaining tread on an otherwise healthy tyre would cause you to ride straight to a tyre shop?

In normal circumstance the legal 1.49mm he obviously began the day with would be right for a few hundred miles.

Agree, slight over reaction I thought tbh, tyres do strange things when getting low, as long as you're not peg scraping ( which in this case would've been ok with the tread on the sides) then it's ok, obviously once it gets stupidly low then it will be dangerous to ride anymore on it.

Runako 15-03-12 11:17 AM

Re: My tyre had negative tread after the good weather on Sunday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2677573)
As someone else has said you know when you're trying to stretch out a tyre to the next payday, but then you don't go out and hoon around on it do you?

Well made point. I have also seen 'the belt' and tried to stretch out till payday to get a new one. Thing is, you know when a tire is going, even with 1 mill of tread. You can feel it (if not, stop riding now) "so you knows you will f' up if you drives it too fast".


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