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Old 02-04-09, 01:26 PM   #1
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This is the first time I've been through this process, and its not proving easy.

About 2 months ago I had a minor coming together with a car (though still a collision), on the motorway in poor visibility. The details are here:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=124368

I reported it to my insurers, bought some new bar ends, and I thought that was the end of it.

Yesterday a letter arrives stating that that the car driver's insurer await my admission of liability(!) and also that "pre-action protocol does not apply as (I) am not pursuing a claim for personal injury".

My initial statement detailed that I was clearly visible and the car did not indicate (something now being disputed).

The most compelling part of the letter is:

"Due to the fact that the area of impact to our insured's vehicle was the rear passenger door our insured had therefore almost completed his manouver therefore liability is firmly in dispute"

My definition is "he started his manouver without checking, didn't see me, probably heard me, and kept moving over anyway. I on the other hand was becoming quickly sandwiched into another car"

Whats the best thing to do next?

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Old 02-04-09, 01:33 PM   #2
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get a lawyer/advice from a qualified person
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Old 02-04-09, 01:35 PM   #3
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get a lawyer/advice from a qualified person

Agreed, just looking for any helpful insights, or recommendations rather than free legal advice here.....
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Old 02-04-09, 01:38 PM   #4
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get briefed up my friend a good one will deal with everything and you just wait till they've sorted it (get one sooner rather than laterand dont answer to anyone except them)
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Old 02-04-09, 01:42 PM   #5
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eg the otherside will send youy letters and stuff, bang in envelope and send to your brief. if they phone you reply respectfully you have my solisitors number i have nothing to add bye bye , after that just be completely honest with your side and never ever consider of one second it was in anyway your fault the gremilins will sneek in and make you dout yourself "dont"
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Old 02-04-09, 01:56 PM   #6
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Apparently, these are very good...

http://www.whitedalton.co.uk/
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Old 02-04-09, 02:17 PM   #7
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+1 on seeking legal advice.

Not used White Dalton myself, but have only ever heard good things from those who have.
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Old 02-04-09, 07:58 PM   #8
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Apparently, these are very good...

http://www.whitedalton.co.uk/
I second this is others havent. The staff are bikers themselves and know their stuff. Worth a call (sorry I havent read all the thread as the nieces are screaming for the laptop)
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Old 02-04-09, 08:31 PM   #9
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The most compelling part of the letter is:

"Due to the fact that the area of impact to our insured's vehicle was the rear passenger door our insured had therefore almost completed his manouver therefore liability is firmly in dispute"

My definition is "he started his manouver without checking, didn't see me, probably heard me, and kept moving over anyway. I on the other hand was becoming quickly sandwiched into another car"

Whats the best thing to do next?
Get legal advice, the initial chat on the phone should normally be free. White Dalton are supposed to be good, as mentioned.

Specifically, I think the telling points about the above part of the letter that you highlighted are:

1. Indicating does not give you a right to anything - you still had right of way. In a way it's good that their letter indicates they accept he was the one changing lanes (and you can bring this up later when they realise the folly of their ways!).
2. It sounds as though they are basically trying to argue that he was moving into a clear space, and you accelerated up into him. I think that you could argue the likelihood of this, compared to the alternative (that he pulled in, into you) is very low. You might have been "annoyed" at him "pushing in" (something I could see him/his insurers arguing) but it's unlikely you would go to that length to express your anger, even if you had misjudged it (and were trying to "scare" him or whatever by coming up close behind) that's a HUGE misjudgement and again much less likely than the alternative.

I'm sure White Dalton or similar will pick up on these points but worth mentioning if not (and assuming they are correct & I read your other thread correctly).
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I reported it to my insurers ....
As you did the right thing at the time ....

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Pass that on to your insurers as well. Assume you also swapped details with cage so you should have passed those details as well above, as cages insurance appear to be trying to claim off you, you should let the insurance deal with it to begin with but keep good copies of all the stuff you send them and be prepared to sort out your own solicitor is insurance do nothing
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