EU strikes again

All bikes to have abs after 2016

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...016/21856.html

i do hate them sometimes

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http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=187405

Most new bikes have ABS now anyway. Won't make much difference IMO.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Most new bikes have ABS now anyway. Won't make much difference IMO.

I'd rather keep personal choice in the matter TBH, the same as in the rest of my life.

Expense versus safety benefit, EU has no right to stick it's nose in that.

Emissions... pah... average bike mileage is low, average economy is good and improving. Every change to reduce emissions means worse economy.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I'd rather keep personal choice in the matter TBH

Most of them have a way of switching it off anyway, or I'm sure you'll find the right wire to cut!

[yorkie_chris]

That's not the point it will still add a few hundred quid onto a new bike.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

That's not the point it will still add a few hundred quid onto a new bike.

It already has on most of them.

has anyone got the actual report as why this was brought up in the EU and if there was any "research" into why this is a good thing that we need and who carried it out etc??

I do most of my riding offroad these days. You think ABS on road bikes is a contentious issue, you should see how unpopular it is with the trail riding fraternity!

On small capacity dirt bikes, the proportional weight and cost penalty is disproportionately high compared to the big road oriented tourers where it used to be popular through choice.

There's also the factor that ABS #is absolutely lethal offroad where you need to be able to lock the wheels! In terms of it's performance, it's getting better with every passing year, but I've still yet to ride anything with ABS on anything more challenging than a gravel road you could get a 2WD card down and thought the ABS worked well. Even when you can disable it via a switch on the bike's menus, you can guarantee it is re-enabled when you turn the engine off. I know of two people who've crashed as they have gone down a steep descent offroad and forgotten their ABS has re-enabled itself.

Cutting the wires/retrofitting non-ABS brakes is technically possible, but I would be loathe to give insurers that sort of wriggle room. They'll have a hard time claiming your undeclared tinted screen caused the crash. Try the same when the post-wreck inspection reveals: ***TAMPERED BRAKES, ABS ILLEGALLY DISABLED BY OWNER***


As Savage says, I'd be really interested to see what evidence they based the decision that this was a good idea on.

FWIW: I'm not someone who thinks they're a Riding God. On an S1000RR I would be nowhere near as quick without ABS/traction control, for sportsbikes and really big tourers (Goldwing, etc.) I personally would choose ABS. It's just that I'd like it to remain that: A choice.

Originally Posted by savage86

has anyone got the actual report as why this was brought up in the EU and if there was any "research" into why this is a good thing that we need and who carried it out etc??

No there was no research. The whole thing was in contravention of the Treaty of the European Union, and hence illegal.