Blood transfusions?

[Tom_the_great]

Right after a discussion today at work that got rather 'Heated' i would like your honest opinions so organs IN A NUTSHEL!.....

Do you believe in blood transfusions?

This is very poorly worded and missed information! it was suppose to be from day one of invetion are blood transfusion's worth there weight?


or would the world have been better off ?


mods please delete if this is going to cause issue, again can only apologise and i know and am glad for blood transfusion's.(See also post 31)

[SoulKiss]

Well if it was a case that my body is SUPPOSED to be able to magically seal up an artery if cut and produce enough blood in a very short time (like instantly) to mean that I don't die, then why not, lets go down the survival of the fittest route.

While we are at it, lets stop all Cancer/Diabetic/Others research, we are only wasting money keeping these "less good" specimens alive, after all if these things turn out to be genetic, if they die before they breed, then the gene pool is a little cleaner - eh?

Dont be dim. Human life has meaning and value, and if, without causing suffering then it can be prolonged, then it should be.

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by Tom_the_great

Right after a discussion today at work that got rather 'Heated' i would like your honest opinions so organs IN A NUTSHEL!.....

Do you believe in blood transfusions?

i am of no religion but simple do not believe people should have them your body cannot sustain you to live then your time is up.

In simple terms its survival of the fittest...

Opinions on a postcard?

But our evolution, our brains, our skills and dexterity, our emotions, compassion and advanced intelligence (minus those you see on Jeremy Kyle) mean that it is no longer a case of survival of the fittest. It is more like survival of those that have access to the life saving medical help...or those who can afford it in some countries.

Personally, it's a grey area. There is no right or wrong...as you say, it's an opinion based subject.

For me, there are family members that are only still here today because of transfusions.

Then there's my grandad. He was refused transfusions when he was dying as it was "not doctors rounds for another hour". If he's been given a transfusion, he could have also been given morphine and passed away quietly. As it happened, no transfusion = no morphine = passed away in immense pain, knees up against his chest writhing in pain. I'd have given anything for him to have had a transfusion that day.

I don't think it's a debate that should ever get heated as it is all about opinion. For me though, it's an option that's available for many beneficial uses and I would not hesitate to give my consent for anyone that needed it. When you lose lots of people you love, you'll do anything to hang on to those that you still have.

Religion wise, it's not for me to say...I'd respect another persons wishes as I would hope that they would respect my own.

I think you'd think differently if you fell off your bike, lost severe amounts of blood through shallow wounds, became unconscious, and the only think necessary to resuscitate you was a blood transfusion.

Would you really want the paramedics to look at you at shrug?

Tomski, I love you but your a fool boy!

Transfusions save thousands of lives each year, innocent victims in road traffic accidents would otherwise die - had they not been saved then thats not survival of the fittest thats just execution of the unfortunate.

Many women would have died during child birth,
I dare say a few members who've passed through here will have had one following an off. (Fault or none-fault).

I wouldnt say transfusions are common place, but I know one lad (chris our keeper seen as you know him too) who's dads life was saved just before xmas following been admitted to hospital severely aniemic. It saved his life and along with it it therefore saved a family not just a horrible time but possible financial ruin as his work currerntly supports most the family.

[Tom_the_great]

Originally Posted by allantheboss

I think you'd think differently if you fell off your bike, lost severe amounts of blood through shallow wounds, became unconscious, and the only think necessary to resuscitate you was a blood transfusion.

Would you really want the paramedics to look at you at shrug?

This is exactly the point of the argument because thats not due to illness or poor health that is due to some kind of accident.

again its simply for peoples opinions not to be abused for what people say or believe.

Thanks for the honest responses so far.

[gruntygiggles]

Another thought. Survival of the fittest in my opinion is based around predetermined factors like lack of strength, hereditary health issues etc. Therefore would have no bearing at all on a person in good health who is hit by a car, shot, involved in an accident. We have the ability to help....it would be inhumane not to.

For the record, I personally think everyone born has a basic right to a healthy life...with all the help we can give where it is needed.

Originally Posted by allantheboss

I think you'd think differently if you fell off your bike, lost severe amounts of blood through shallow wounds, became unconscious, and the only think necessary to resuscitate you was a blood transfusion.

Would you really want the paramedics to look at you at shrug?

If that were the case I wouldn't be here now. The above scenario is exactly what happened to me. open fracture of the pelvis and internal bleeding. I lost several pints of blood.

Originally Posted by Tom_the_great

This is exactly the point of the argument because thats not due to illness or poor health that is due to some kind of accident.

again its simply for peoples opinions not to be abused for what people say or believe.

Thanks for the honest responses so far.

But surley if due to an accident your body is unable to susstain your life this in your mind would also mean you shouldn't have a transfusion?

it is a load of rubbish! we have the advancement in medical science, and they should be used to the full to alow people to carry on living. No matter the reason, if people were to have an accident like coming off the bike, if they can be keped alive by any means they should.

if people are ill the same. I myself was diagnosed with cancer when i was 18, and although i was very lucky and didn't need any transfusions simply chemo and radio therapy keped me going, a transfusion was next on the list. and i can ensure you if, as, and when (i really hope you dont) you are ever faced with a similar condition, you will take everything to ensure that you are able to get better, and get over the problem that you face.

In my example to say that people shouldn;t have blood transfusions to get over cancer when no life choice of mine, or my families caused it i should be allowed to die, but someone who takes the active desision to ride a motorbike and was to have a accident that put his or her life at risk should have a transfusion...... what a load of crock. Everyone should be given the same possibilities to maintain there life no matter what the reason!

I`m wondering if you`ve started this thread to cause outrage? your rationale that if a person`s body can no longer sustain them then your time is up? maybe you should consider a career in politics...... imagine how much money you`d save the NHS and the country as a whole each year if you were in charge!!!

So............ personal feelings aside (as I wouldn`t be here today had I not received a blood transfusion following childbirth) just imagine how many deaths there`d be every year if you were in charge!

would people with cancer not be allowed to receive life saving treatments?

how many premature and very young babies would die as a result of not receiving blood transfusions?

how many innocent victims of RTA`s would die?

how many people would die because organ transplants would be stopped?

how many diabetics would die because their bodies would not sustain them without medical intervention and treatment.


The list goes on and on!! we have people on this site who would die or would have died had your peculiar rationale been enforced, thank god it hasn`t.