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Old 01-09-10, 09:54 AM   #1
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Received a N.I.P in the post yesterday

(Not related to last weekends Porlock adventures).

In my defence I was going up a hill and there was no-one else on the road, but fair enough I was over the posted limit (although not by a lot).

I entered the major road from a minor road (LFT turn) after the point where the national limit on the major road drops to 30. The 30 limit is signed on the minor road before my lft turn as it should be...

What's boiling my p+ss is (and I'm sure the friendly officer had put his camera signs out) I didn't pass any camera signs... I imagine they were on the major road near the end of the national limit.

So where was my warning? And although I appreciate I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, how could I prove that I had no warning? Or is it simply the case that the officer has to prove he put signs on display?

The other thing is... No matter how many times I go over it in my mind I don't remember seeing anyone on that part of the road - apart from a biker who was sat in a petrol station/shop opposite the minor road I turned out of.

For those that know it - Garrison Hill, A32 southbound entering Droxford. I turned out of the road that runs through from Denmead.

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Old 01-09-10, 09:57 AM   #2
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Unfortunately they no longer need to display signs warning motorists they're collecting donations...
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Old 01-09-10, 10:01 AM   #3
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Unfortunately they no longer need to display signs warning motorists they're collecting donations...
When did that happen? I must have missed that... What about the being visible part then?
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Old 01-09-10, 10:07 AM   #4
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Unfortunately they no longer need to display signs warning motorists they're collecting donations...
Nicely worded

and unlucky rich at least your man enough to hands up and admit the foul.
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Old 01-09-10, 10:10 AM   #5
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When did that happen? I must have missed that... What about the being visible part then?
Not sure when it changed, and I'd imagine any claim that the copper wasn't visible could be countered by simply claiming you weren't paying attention - policeman's word vs. member of the public's = forget it

You could choose to have your day in court and look for a loophole, the limit must have had the right Traffic Regulation Order completed correctly and all signage must meet standards, but tbh you will probably find the 3pts will make effectively no difference to your insurance or to any situation where a "clean license" is a consideration
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Old 01-09-10, 10:24 AM   #6
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I know it, i was done just after that nearly 2 years back. I'd say the a32 is now heavier scammered than the a272

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Old 01-09-10, 10:31 AM   #7
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Default Re: Not Happy - N.I.P'd

Perhaps your Porlock NIP is also in the post

On the issue of scamera vans; I passed one yesterday on a straight dual carriageway miles from any entries/exits. Why don't they position themselves outside schools/in built up residential areas?

P.S. I'm so pleased he was just setting up. Having just received a come quick phone call as mum-in-law was being taken into hospital I was travelling er very very quickly - 110mph - keystroke error, should read 70mph.
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I thought plumber don't need the camera sign etc to wave their blowlamps. Scamara vans etc do need to have camera warning signs.
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I thought plumber don't need the camera sign etc to wave their blowlamps. Scamara vans etc do need to have camera warning signs.
It's possible this was bike plod. His bike parked up out of sight with him standing at the roadside with a gun on a tripod. I only say that because it would explain why I didn't see a van or signs etc and I have seen this scenario on that road before - albeit not at that location.

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Old 01-09-10, 04:28 PM   #10
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AFAIK, like TLW says, there is no requirement for plod to have signage, signage is required for a camera van but not speed guns that either bike cop or traffic cop would have and if they were unable to follow you for some reason then it is perfectly in order for them to send a NIP to you.
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