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Old 14-01-11, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default 650 or 1000?

Tried to do a search, but hit by everything but

So basically, I currently have a 650S and am thinking of changing to 1000. Apart from the obvious what are the thoughts of anyone who has done this, or vice-versa and why, and riding position/comfort differences etc.


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Old 14-01-11, 07:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: 650 or 1000?

Two totally different bikes, lots of threads on here already covering it
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Old 14-01-11, 07:58 PM   #3
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not done it but from my understanding

thou uses a fair bit more fuel than the 650
thou has loads of power and torque
650 handles better (when equipped with proper forks like the thou)
thou is heavier

other than that i cant help
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Old 14-01-11, 08:56 PM   #4
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2006 Suzuki SV1000SZ
Overall Length: 2,085 mm (82.1 in)
Overall Width: 745 mm (29.3 in)
Overall Height: 1,170 mm (46.1 in)
Seat Height: 800 mm (31.5 in)
Wheelbase: 1,430 mm (56.3 in)
Ground Clearance: 150 mm (5.9 in)
Dry Weight: 187 kg (412 lbs)
Engine type: Water-cooled 996 cc four-stroke 90° 8 valves V-twin, DOHC, TSCC. 123 hp (91.7 kW)/ 8,500 rpm, 102 Nm/ 7,000 rpm.


TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:
Overall Length: 2,085 mm
Overall Width: 745 mm
Overall Height: 1,170 mm
Wheelbase: 1,430 mm
Ground Clearance: 150 mm
Seat Height: 800 mm
Dry Mass: 187 kg
Fuel Capacity: 17 litres

ENGINE:
Engine Type: 90-degree 4-stroke V-twin, DOHC, liquid cooled, electronic fuel injected, 4 valves per cylinder
Bore x Stroke: 98.0 x 66.0 mm
Max Power: 125.1 PS
Max Torque: 102 Nm @ 7,500rpm
Piston Displacement: 996cc
Compression Ratio: 11.6:1
Carburettor: Fuel injection 52 mm
Lubrication: Wet sump

CHASSIS:
Front Suspension: Conventional 46 mm telescopic. Fully adjustable
Rear Suspension: Link type, coil spring, oil damped, fully adjustable
Rake/Trail: 24.5 degrees / 99 mm
Front Brake: 4-piston calipers, 310 mm dual discs
Rear Brake: Singel-piston caliper, 220 mm disc
Front Tyre: 120/70R15
Rear Tyre: 180/55ZR17

SV 650 S 2005
Overall Length: 2,080 mm (81.9 in)
Overall Width: 745 mm (29.3 in)
Overall Height: 1,085 mm (42.7 in)
Seat Height: 800 mm (31.5 in)
Wheel Base: 1,440 mm (56.7 in)
Ground Clearance: 150 mm (5.9 in)
Dry Weight: 165 kg (363 lbs)
Engine type: Liquid-cooled 645 cc v-twin DOHC, 8 valves. 72 hp (53 kW)/ 9,000 rpm, 84 Nm/ 7,200 rpm.

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not done it but from my understanding

thou uses a fair bit more fuel than the 650
thou has loads of power and torque
650 handles better (when equipped with proper forks like the thou)
thou is heavier

other than that i cant help
Unless the thou has the same fork conversion then they both handle the same

The Thou is for those who can't be bothered to add hot cams, do 'Busa piston swaps etc

I'd love to do a "minitwin race spec chassis" for the thou on the road. It'd be *beast* as the young 'un say. Total weight strip and race fairing, USD forks, Penske rear shock, Underseat exhaust etc.

In fact, I might just have my next project
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Old 14-01-11, 08:57 PM   #5
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get a thou lol
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Old 14-01-11, 09:09 PM   #6
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Unless the thou has the same fork conversion then they both handle the same

The Thou is for those who can't be bothered to add hot cams, do 'Busa piston swaps etc
the forks on the thou are cartridge forks
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Old 14-01-11, 11:08 PM   #7
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the forks on the thou are cartridge forks
nope RWU up forks

Swaps are common for GSXR 1000 fronts

Speak to Dave Preston he's had both in sucession
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Old 14-01-11, 11:11 PM   #8
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just because they are RWU does not mean they are not cartridge all that means is the orientation of the forks.
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Old 14-01-11, 11:14 PM   #9
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just because they are RWU does not mean they are not cartridge all that means is the orientation of the forks.
Unless YC has been at them, no
http://www.suzukicycles.org/SV-serie...-SV1000S.shtml

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CHASSIS:
Front Suspension: Conventional 46 mm telescopic. Fully adjustable
Rear Suspension: Link type, coil spring, oil damped, fully adjustable
Rake/Trail: 24.5 degrees / 99 mm
Front Brake: 4-piston calipers, 310 mm dual discs
Rear Brake: Singel-piston caliper, 220 mm disc
Front Tyre: 120/70R15
Rear Tyre: 180/55ZR17
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Old 14-01-11, 11:37 PM   #10
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im not saying they are cartridge but im saying you do get RWU cartridge forks

any how they are cartridge ..... LINK
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