SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum



Idle Banter For non SV and non bike related chat (and the odd bit of humour - but if any post isn't suitable it'll get deleted real quick).
There's also a "U" rating so please respect this. Newbies can also say "hello" here too.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-10-09, 10:09 PM   #31
muffles
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

If Royal Mail workers want to get paid more, then that's fine IMO. But I don't agree with striking (and I kinda disagree with unions too, there are a lot of generic ways of complaining w.r.t. employment problems these days, which is what unions would previously have helped with). If they want more money, do what the rest of us would do - ask for it, or get a new job!
Maybe Royal Mail should be able to act as a private company, with the way they can bid for contracts mentioned above, etc. I think that would be fairest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-09, 10:44 AM   #32
Lucas
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

I used to like his shows as a kid, no more...


  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 06:51 AM   #33
Jabba
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

Is this prophetic?
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 07:20 AM   #34
suzijax
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

If like my mate you live in Alsager and the other lives the other side of Stoke then 2 hours to get up get sorted and get there isnt that much .
As for getting another job what world are you living in my hubby was made redundant 3 months ago he has applied for 1,834 jobs up to now he has had 4 letters back (yes through RM) saying thanks but no thanks 1 interview and the rest dont even bother.
Sorry dont do punctuation takes up my time lol
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 07:31 AM   #35
muffles
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

Quote:
Originally Posted by suzijax View Post
If like my mate you live in Alsager and the other lives the other side of Stoke then 2 hours to get up get sorted and get there isnt that much .
As for getting another job what world are you living in my hubby was made redundant 3 months ago he has applied for 1,834 jobs up to now he has had 4 letters back (yes through RM) saying thanks but no thanks 1 interview and the rest dont even bother.
Sorry dont do punctuation takes up my time lol
I'm sorry your husband was made redundant but that's life, and I don't see why Royal Mail workers shouldn't have to face the same trials and tribulations as the rest of us?
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 07:46 AM   #36
Jabba
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

I'm a little confused about it all. Can't fathom the reasons for going on strike when the company is in danger of going down the pan, whatever the rights and wrongs about the way that the company is being managed. Seems a bit futile to me.

Worse still, by witholding mail from other businesses they are putting those businesses at risk. So they go to the wall, less mail being sent, less income for RM and a downward spiral comes into being. Other businesses will simply turn to other providers/other means for business mail to preserve their ability to trade.

Sure, press for things like better terms/conditions/pay when times are good and the company has the cash/income to support it but now ain't the time.

I have a lot of sympathy with the staff during these uncertain times, but striking in a recession is just plain daft.
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 07:56 AM   #37
Ed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

I heard an interview on Radio 4 a few weeks back when they were doing the strike ballot. The union man came across far better than the management bloke. The union man - I think his name was Dave Ward?? - had facts at his fingertips, the management bloke just talked meaningless BS. It was so obvious that there was a huge gap in communication.
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 08:02 AM   #38
Jabba
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed View Post
It was so obvious that there was a huge gap in communication.
And so a huge gap in understanding.

I'm sure you're right about the Union chap and he's probably very far from being a "Red Robbo", but striking rarely works long-term. Where are all those industries and business that suffered strikes in the late 70's and 80's now?
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 11:01 AM   #39
jimmy__riddle
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: are royal mail striking

last time they were striking there was a rep from RM on the radio saying how X% of RM workers were being paid less than the average wage, and that everyone should be earning at least that.

probably the same guy that decided striking whilst you business is failing is a good idea
  Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-09, 12:27 PM   #40
Sir Trev
Member
Mega Poster
 
Sir Trev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: High Wycombe, where the chair factories used to be
Posts: 1,479
Default Re: are royal mail striking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabba View Post
Worse still, by witholding mail from other businesses they are putting those businesses at risk. So they go to the wall, less mail being sent, less income for RM and a downward spiral comes into being. Other businesses will simply turn to other providers/other means for business mail to preserve their ability to trade.
FedEx must be rubbing their hands with glee. Perhaps the union reps have shares with them!

Let's see if we can predict the outcome... RM loses another shed load of business customers and yet again has too many staff for the volumes they handle, resulting in more layoffs and more changes to working time/conditions. Unions scream about it being unfair, despite it being largely their fault.

The world is getting smaller and competition is now global. If a business cannot adapt to that it will die - period. If the unions insist on stopping that adaptation by looking at short term gains for their members they will end up killing the company, as well as lots of innocent companies they drove to the wall by striking. The public will lose faith in them too and will quite probably take their business eslewhere and the spiral Jabba quite rightly mentions continues down and down.

I seem to reacall the car workers trying it on - not many of them left now is there? Likewise the miners. And the steel workers.
__________________
We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town, BEEP BEEP!
Sir Trev is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Royal Mail Muck Up! Sally Idle Banter 33 06-05-09 09:23 PM
Royal Mail advice... Baph Idle Banter 32 14-02-09 01:25 PM
royal mail... Paul the 6th Idle Banter 8 13-02-09 06:52 PM
Royal Mail Dancing Cat TV Ad _drummer_ Idle Banter 4 16-11-08 03:13 PM
Royal Mail Anonymous Idle Banter 32 09-05-06 05:02 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.